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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4316 times:
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Very simple question really... are the distance bands the actual mileage flown, point to point between cities or the same mileages as used for FF programs?


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User currently offlineZeeDub From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
Very simple question really... are the distance bands the actual mileage flown, point to point between cities or the same mileages as used for FF programs?

Depends on the airline. Typically the mileage on a zed is "block" mileage, simmilar to block time (might not be exact, but it's pretty darn close). Some airlines throw incentive miles to thier upper tier FF pax, and the mileage is calculated differnetly in a different system after the fact. But generally for us scrubs, what it is is what it is.

[Edited 2006-10-07 20:49:21]


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User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4287 times:

Zed miles are pretty much actual distance between cities and as long as an airline is in the zed program then they will be treated the same.

FF miles however seem to have little relevance on anything (other than higher numbers spent gets you a bit further), and vary wildly depending on the carrier.



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Did anyone ever notice that AF fixed its ZED tables on its system? they are a few dollars higher than the universal ZED tables, and some have been refused on AF with ZED tickets cause it was off by 3 dollars. The sad part is the OAL cannot manually fix a ZED zone fare to match AF. I had this experience a few weeks ago.


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User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

I've noticed that they pretty much mirror registered TPMs. If you have a recent OAG you can see which band a certain sector will fall in, as they now include TPMs next to the destination.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 3):
Did anyone ever notice that AF fixed its ZED tables on its system? they are a few dollars higher than the universal ZED tables, and some have been refused on AF with ZED tickets cause it was off by 3 dollars. The sad part is the OAL cannot manually fix a ZED zone fare to match AF. I had this experience a few weeks ago.

Hmm, but as long there is a ZED Agreement with your airline and AF they must accept you onboard or they make a note about specials with their agreement.

or, do you mean that your ticket was not issued on AF and you wanted to travel on AF. That would be different story.

I have to admit Inever had problems with AF.

Ohhh, it is time to get me a ZED for GIG in Nov!!!!!!!  Big grin

...and yes, despite it is horrible ( seatingwise) I fly AF!  Smile


User currently offlineCopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 3):
Did anyone ever notice that AF fixed its ZED tables on its system? they are a few dollars higher than the universal ZED tables, and some have been refused on AF with ZED tickets cause it was off by 3 dollars. The sad part is the OAL cannot manually fix a ZED zone fare to match AF. I had this experience a few weeks ago.

What was the date of the AF agreement compared to the one you purchased your ticket under. ZED fares changed by a few dollars on Sept 01, 06. I recently went through all of them that CO has an agreement with and except for BA, they all seemed the same.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

I did the purchase in August, not September and the updating was recent, I guess AF went early at updating.

Your tickets must be done by your own airline, mine are purchased at my own ticket counter, I dont think you can just go to AF and do it yourself. Its your companies job to provide the ticket for you as the agreement.



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
Very simple question really... are the distance bands the actual mileage flown, point to point between cities or the same mileages as used for FF programs?

Very simple, they are quoted as per the IATA Mileage also used for far calculation. Some airlines might use with their FFP also the IATA Mileage , others don't. In most or even all cases, ZED mileage is not actual flown mileage.



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 8):
Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
Very simple question really... are the distance bands the actual mileage flown, point to point between cities or the same mileages as used for FF programs?

Very simple, they are quoted as per the IATA Mileage also used for far calculation. Some airlines might use with their FFP also the IATA Mileage , others don't. In most or even all cases, ZED mileage is not actual flown mileage.

I also found an example. IATA mileage between ZRH and LCY is 483. Between ZRH and LHR it is the same, also 483. Actualy flown mileage or the actual distance between ZRH and LHR is of course different to LCY. Pricing wise it is the same as per IATA Fares.



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