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Boeing's Carson Isn't Counting Airbus Out  
User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3182 posts, RR: 26
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Fantastic article and well worth the read IMHO. (It's own thread because it also touches on the 787 and not just the 380 delays).

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...=top+news_top+news+index_companies

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Boeing (BA) likely will benefit from Airbus's current management crisis and the severe production troubles clouding the future of its A380 jetliner. But the new leader of Boeing's commercial airplane division, in his first extensive interview since becoming chief executive officer on Sept. 1, says he won't be crowing about his archrival's struggles. In fact, Scott Carson is confident Airbus will bounce back stronger than ever.



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FULL DISCLOSURE. Carson is candid about the challenges still facing the Dreamliner program. "We are schedule-challenged on the program and we've talked a lot about that," he says. "We are weight-challenged on the program, and we've talked a lot about that with our customers, and we haven't been shy with the investment community, and we're managing all of those. The phase we're in is the critical phase—when you begin assembly and work toward rollout and then ultimately flight test."

The bit on "moving the dot" also sheds a lot of light on Boeing's culture of today.


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User currently offlineNewSky From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

Interesting read. As someone who is still a bit of a newcomer to aviation, that's the most I've really read into the "Boeing crisis" and how they got through it. It's good to see they seem to have learnt their lessons. It's good to hear the 787 issues are being addressed too.

User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3182 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

Quoting NewSky (Reply 1):
Interesting read. As someone who is still a bit of a newcomer to aviation, that's the most I've really read into the "Boeing crisis" and how they got through it. It's good to see they seem to have learnt their lessons. It's good to hear the 787 issues are being addressed too.

Ya it was a good read.. and quite a contrast to Airbus pieces where everything is a closely guarded secret.


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User currently offlineColumbia107 From Gibraltar, joined Aug 2004, 356 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1252 times:
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I am indeed surprised that no one has yet commented on Carsons words regarding the 787's progress.

It must be that most of the Forum's participants are focused on the current woes of Airbus.

At least for the time being.

Pity.


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User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1230 times:

Quoting Columbia107 (Reply 3):
I am indeed surprised that no one has yet commented on Carsons words regarding the 787's progress.

It must be that most of the Forum's participants are focused on the current woes of Airbus.

At least for the time being.

Pity.

But there's not much new to talk about right now with respect to the 787. We've known for a while they're a couple percentage points over the weight target. And given that this is the first large airliner to be assembled in this fashion, it'd be much more surprising to learn that they aren't schedule challenged. Whereas at the moment, Airbus's woes are manifesting themselves in a particularly public fashion.

I have no doubt that if the 787 is delayed, or fails to meet its performance targets, the issues will be discussed and dissected extensively in this forum, just like we did after the failure of the test barrels. But there's no point in speculating about something we just don't know anything about yet.


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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3182 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

Quoting N844AA (Reply 4):
I have no doubt that if the 787 is delayed, or fails to meet its performance targets, the issues will be discussed and dissected extensively in this forum, just like we did after the failure of the test barrels. But there's no point in speculating about something we just don't know anything about yet.

Yes but the way Boeing does business we won't find out at the last minute and it won't be a big surprise. That's their whole point. Keep everyone in the loop.


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User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 5):
Yes but the way Boeing does business we won't find out at the last minute and it won't be a big surprise. That's their whole point. Keep everyone in the loop.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Look how quickly we found out about the barrel failure I mentioned -- it was within a matter of a week or two, if not days, if I recall correctly.

I'm just saying, why would we waste time speculating about routine challenges that are part and parcel of complex aircraft development? Truth is, it just doesn't make sense to think about the discussion of Airbus's issues as beating up on Airbus -- Airbus is going through some very real strife right now. When/if Boeing goes through the same, we'll read about it on here, over and over and over again.

I have no idea if this board was around in 1997-1998, but if it was, I'm sure Boeing's meltdown was addressed extensively.


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