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Taag 747SP-300 To Be Converted For Cargo  
User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

I didn't see this in any previous TAAG posts, apologies if it's been noted before.

I just got to Luanda and read the typical hotel business rag, there were many articles on the TAAG fleet update (and Luanda airport upgrades), and one tidbit was that their two 747SP-300s were going to be converted to cargo haulers. There was were no further details.

As previously mentioned, it also said their 4 737-700s that are on order will replace all in serivice 737-200s. I'm not familiar with the -200s, they looked to be pretty tired old turbojets when we taxied past them (I was on flight BA77).


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21502 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5610 times:

What is an SP-300? They don't exist...


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

First off, their is no 747-SP300. Their is a 747-300. They have the 743 and I believe these are all former SR examples. Second, it wouldn't surprise me as it would be more reliable in terms of freighter a/c. I would rather convert my own ( like AF is doing to their 744 in converting them to F stats) b/c it would be easier than to get a/c already configured for F.

They have the right frames. They can easily be configured as these were 357C models.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
What is an SP-300? They don't exist...

I was quoting the article, welcome to Angola...

It confused the f. out of me also. I have serious doubts that TAAG will enter the freight business, but the market is here between telecom (new GSM carrriers) and oil in Cabinda.

Take it for what it's worth, I'll send you the magazine if you want it.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6546 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

Any idea if the articles you read, mention anything about configuration, inflight entertainement etc ?

The777Man



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

The TAAG 747-300s are Combis, one a 747-357 ex Swissair, one a 747-312 from SIA. As much as I know they use them as such, transporting Cargo in the back. The 777s they are about to get carry less Cargo than a 747 Combi. Seems TAAG need more capacity than the smaller 777 can provide in their underbelly.
Anyway, good to hear 747s will still be around for years in the beautiful TAAG livery.


User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5361 times:

Keep in mind that during the civil war the TAAG subsidiary Angolan Air Charter operated quite a few B707 on European routes.

Now these birds a gone and the economic boom created by the rapidly expanded oil production has created an increased demand for cargo capacity that the B772 will not be able not meet on their own.

For TAAG it certainly makes more sense to convert their B743 and use them in an all-cargo role rather than to sell them on the market and then wet lease cargo capacity from another carrier.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5147 times:

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 6):
Now these birds a gone and the economic boom created by the rapidly expanded oil production has created an increased demand for cargo capacity that the B772 will not be able not meet on their own.

For TAAG it certainly makes more sense to convert their B743 and use them in an all-cargo role rather than to sell them on the market and then wet lease cargo capacity from another carrier.

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A388


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5126 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 5):
As much as I know they use them as such, transporting Cargo in the back.

The other way around would be quite a thing, wouldn't it?  goodvibes 


User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

747SP-300 hahahaha

Best one I've seen in a week or two here.


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2952 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4958 times:

Are there any companies still doing 747-classic cargo conversions?
Bedek did their last 747-classic last year.


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?

User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 11):
Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?

The info was from the "Economia & Mercado", dated Julho-Agosto 2006. There are a series of articles on updates to UHF/VHF via satellite, an interview with Jorge Melo of the Empress Nacional de Aeroportos e Navegacao Aerea, (sorry, can't add the correct accents...), also that there are 500 million dollares in upgrades to Angolan airports (new color TVs in the managers' offices?). The article says they are receiving 3 777-200ERs and 6 737-700s.

They want to build a new airport also near Luanda.



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User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 12):
new color TVs in the managers' offices?)

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User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4616 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 11):
Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?

Look up TAAG 777 and 737-700 in the database and see for yourself.

~Trades


User currently offlineAA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

Was out at Everett on saturday, and the two 777-200s are on the line all painted up......


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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Are there any companies still doing 747-classic cargo conversions?

Places like HAECO and TAECO should still be able to if someone wanted to hire them. The Flight Structures kit and related engineering is still available.

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Bedek did their last 747-classic last year.

Any reason that they couldn't/wouldn't do more if a customer came along?

Tod


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 10):
Bedek did their last 747-classic last year.

That was a former pure-pax aircraft converted to cargo. Converting a combi is much easier and is done faster. I think there are still companies doing this, IIRC one at Wichita ?

Quoting Tod (Reply 16):
Any reason that they couldn't/wouldn't do more if a customer came along?

Because their backlog is full of 747-400 conversions, and probably that won't change. Few, if any, classics will be converted in the future, so they focus on the -400.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

Viasa

Did TAAG really get the B737-700 and the B777-200?


If I am not mistaken I recall reading a post in here regarding TAAG CANCELLING the B73G and B772 order?

EK413



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 18):

No they thankfully did not cancel. They just got repeainted, which led people to believe that they were being returned. In the end, the aircraft were painted back to the old TAAG colours



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User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 18):
If I am not mistaken

Some (or all) are supposed to be delivered to Luanda on 11 Nov. I'll be here, I just need to find out how to get invited to the ceremony.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4145 times:
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Guys, TAAG used their 743 on cargo market between Brazil and Angola for Telecom (as posted above the new GSM network) and also for some equipment for Odebrecht (a major engineer company with huge activities in Angola). Their past idea is to use one of the planes on a cargo flight from Sao Paulo to Luanda thru SSA. Probably there are other markets, like Portugal, Rio, Houston, China among others where the 743 can be successfully used.

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