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User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4827 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061009/20061009005816.html?.v=1


I think this is good start for the Caribbean... unifying resources towards 1 or 2 sucessful airlines as oppossed to waht the have now! Feedback???

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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4819 times:

Well. Considering both of them run on Caribbean time, now it'll probably be one BIG airline that has so many delays and "exceptional" customer service.  Silly


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

Nice story but hard to believe when looking the different cultures of the Caribbean Islands and their "national pride" image they (mainly local governments) want to keep, even in our times. It is sad to see this still happening and I welcome mergers between any Caribbean airline as this is the only way they can survive and keep more effectively. For now I only say: I believe it when I see it!!! Big grin

A388


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

Can I just say that despite what the perception is about Caribbean aviation, Caribbean Star has done a lot in terms of efficiency, customer relations and on time performance. While not perfect, there is very little you can fault 8B on especially if you look at it as a regional low cost carrier. The merger makes perfect sense, allowing for larger a/c to be used by the single entity instead of two competing smaller planes. Also LIAT is basically loosing money, but albiet not that much money, while 8B is allegedly making money. Allen Sanford knows what he's doing, and if he's merging then you bet it's gonna be a great merger. I hope they use the Caribbean Star branding, since the LIAT acronymn has become a bit like the BWIA acronymn- jokes, and bad public opinion.

No airline is perfect but 8B and LI merging is NOTHING like BW and JM merging!!! They are both based in ANU with major hubs in BGI and POS. They fly almost the exact same routes and there is plenty of room for expansion.

Cheers
AA1818



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 3):
Can I just say that despite what the perception is about Caribbean aviation, Caribbean Star has done a lot in terms of efficiency, customer relations and on time performance. While not perfect, there is very little you can fault 8B on especially if you look at it as a regional low cost carrier.

You are absolutely right. Caribbean Star indeed is one of the few successful airlines in the Caribbean but I was referring to LIAT and the other airlines (JM/BW). These airlines are need to seriously restructure before thinking of any mergers. Just my opinion.

A388


User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 3):
Caribbean Star has done a lot in terms of efficiency, customer relations and on time performance.

..which is exactly where LIAT falters. Although LIAT has a very loyal customer base and for the past 50 years have fulfilled its mission in the Eastern Caribbean, a transformation in the terms mentioned by AA1818 are necessary to ensure a viable future. However, both airlines bring value to the integration and if you look at the resulting airline in terms of expanded route network (specially if you include Star's sister airline Sun), improved Dash 8 fleet, improved schedules, and customer loyalty, these two carriers seem to be a perfect fit.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

I guess A330323X could have more info on this, but what will happen to the GoCaribbean network that US Airways has built with Caribbean Sun? Will it be discontinued. IIRC, US had more service in the Caribbean than AA at one point in 2002-03.


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Posted this topic yesterday, but everyone was asleep or something.:D

But in seriously, this is the best thing that can happen with Star and LIAT. The competition between the two is fierce, their flights run within minutes of each other, and strangley at times with similar flight number. eg. 356 GND / BGI and 756 GND / BGI, don't know if that number exists.

But with one airline, one bigger airline, they will have more resources, and in many ways, the airline will operate more efficiently.

What am I worried about? Prices. Before Star, and other competing airlines, LIAT had high prices. Of course LIAT being a bigger airline, ran the others out of business. Star was the only airline to survive, due to the Stanfords deep pockets.

Lets see how it unfolds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/news/story/2006/10/061009_liat.shtml



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4527 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
You are absolutely right. Caribbean Star indeed is one of the few successful airlines in the Caribbean but I was referring to LIAT and the other airlines (JM/BW). These airlines are need to seriously restructure before thinking of any mergers.

I agree that BW and JM are a joke and that no such merger should take place unless some aviation experts are given full control of both entities and there is no gov't interference or local private interference for a while. That of course will never happen, thus a merger, or rather a successful merger will NEVER happen in our lifetime (and I am including the new Caribbean Airlines within BW).

LIAT, though you are correct, is not profitable and not all that efficient. The main reason it is loosing money is due to great competition from it's competitor- 8B. I have a feeling that the Govt's of the Eastern Caribbean are in fact selling LIAT to 8B and not merging, however for the paperwork and public opinion etc it is being called a merger. I believe that the Caribbean Star brand will stay and that LIAT will be absorbed under 8B with as much LI staff being kept and others perhaps being sent to other Caribbean destinations where expansion can take place. The Gov't will have no say in the day to day affairs of the new entity, but will probably gain some shares in the 'new' entity to show the public. The new entity will be run efficiently as 8B had been before and will probably give Caribbean Airlines some really good competition on regional runs.

I am also anticipating many Dash8 Q400s, elimination of 8B's Dash8100- perhaps giving them to Caribbean Sun. And, through the grapevine, I have heard that some E-Jets might be purchased for some services. I have NO INFORMATION WHERE but I would like to venture a guess- Perhaps the USA, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Central America, South America, some Trinidad services.

Cheers
AA1818



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11630 posts, RR: 61
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4527 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 6):
IIRC, US had more service in the Caribbean than AA at one point in 2002-03.

USAirways has never been larger than AA to the Caribbean, and I believe that even includes when you count USAirways' regional affiliates and AA's Executive subsidiary.


User currently offlineOphila From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined May 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 8):
I have heard that some E-Jets might be purchased for some services

I have great reason to believe that Ejets will enter into service w/ a South American connx and western carrib & bahamas as well.....but expect ejets 4 sure


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Great post AA1818. I always enjoy reading your posts. I agree with you here as well. Like Captaink already mentions, I see higher prices coming as soon as these two airlines merge. The competition that brought lower prices to the market will fade away again when these two airlines, the biggest ones in their regions will join forces, sadly. I just hope that LIAT will retain its brand and livery as I would love to photograph this airline somewhere in the future. I always enjoyed watching their BAe748s at SXM when I was younger. Such a nice aircraft and rarely seen in our region, too bad they left....

AA1818, I remember you mentioning in another thread about BW/Caribbean Airways wanting to (re)start service from POS to CUR. Do you have an update on this? I'm very anxious as we need more airlift to CUR!!! Big grin

A388


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

I routed through POS in May last year and I saw Dash 8 300's operated by BW Express, my records show Q311's 9Y-WIL & WIN - one was pretty much all white with pink titles if i remember correctly. According to the latest JP, all three are stored at POS (WIL, WIN & WIP), but the two operated by Tobago Express (WIT & WIZ) are operational. Are these aircraft all still around and if so, what will happen to them with the shut down of BW and how will their operations be affected by the proposed 8B / LI merger?


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 8):
I have heard that some E-Jets might be purchased for some services. I have NO INFORMATION WHERE but I would like to venture a guess- Perhaps the USA, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Central America, South America, some Trinidad services.

Both LI and 8B have been toying with the Ejets. In fact, Allen Stanford was recently given a E170 presentation by Embraer, including a short flight. Both airlines have been talking of using the EMBs on longer caribbean routes, and North American expansion, starting with South Florida. I imagine with the merger these plans would still be in effect.

Just to add though, LI is definitely not profitable, but 8B though with more finacing, isn't profitable either. The simple reason is that on some routes, the competition was riduclous. A classic example, at one point both 8B and LI had a 6am flight from GND to BGI. The majority of the time, the 8B flight left with less than 10 persons. Grenada does not need 54 (in the case of two 100 series) or 100 (in the case of 300 series) seats to BGI at time of the day, everyday. This is only one example. I am aware of the situation with LI and 8B in Grenada. I imagine that it is not too different in other islands.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 12):
I routed through POS in May last year and I saw Dash 8 300's operated by BW Express, my records show Q311's 9Y-WIL & WIN - one was pretty much all white with pink titles if i remember correctly. According to the latest JP, all three are stored at POS (WIL, WIN & WIP), but the two operated by Tobago Express (WIT & WIZ) are operational. Are these aircraft all still around and if so, what will happen to them with the shut down of BW and how will their operations be affected by the proposed 8B / LI merger?

Those aircraft are still around. One of the Tabex's DHC8 (WIT or WIN) from what i understand is not serviceable, but WIL, WIN and WIP are, and are used by TabEx. I think it will be a waiting game as BW owns 45% of TabEx. Caribbean Airlines does plan on bettering their intracaribbean network. So will they need their DHC8s? Will TAbEx and BW merge? Lets see.

BTW, expect to see C' Sun leave us. The employees at Sun are expecting it just that. As the region is back to Cat 1, expansion is now possible for Star.

[Edited 2006-10-11 07:40:59]


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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

Hi AA how was NZ

Star has not been the great success that you think it is. The airline that you think was loosing more money was not.

The HQ will be at ANU for the time being. More focus will be given to BGI.
Expect management to be a true mixture of the two airlines. HQ may move to BGI this may not be in the immediate future but in the medium to long term.

As for the EJ that has been something that LIAT has been looking at for sometime. EJs will be used on the long thing routes.

The merger has been given the go ahead as it allow the shareholders with the best option of getting a return on their investment.


Interms of the future we have to see what Caribbean Airlines regional network will look like. This would dictate if they are friends or foe, but old habits die hard and my dollar is on the latter.

AA1818 any news on Caribbean Airlines. What will happen to the LHR route?? I heard that BA is to operate it for 5 years or until the airline gets a plane to fly the route? Any ideas about the new livery etc...

Regards
BWIA 772



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 6):
I guess A330323X could have more info on this, but what will happen to the GoCaribbean network that US Airways has built with Caribbean Sun? Will it be discontinued.

I see no reason why it would be.

US Airways does not codeshare as of yet with Caribbean Star, though it is a member of the GoCaribbean Network, likely since it is somewhat more of a hassle to codeshare with a foreign airline. The larger scope of the airline following the merger might in fact make it worth the hassle for US to codeshare with them as it already does with Caribbean Sun, WINAIR, and Bahamasair.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 6):
IIRC, US had more service in the Caribbean than AA at one point in 2002-03.



Quoting Commavia (Reply 9):

USAirways has never been larger than AA to the Caribbean, and I believe that even includes when you count USAirways' regional affiliates and AA's Executive subsidiary.

I think what he's probably thinking of is that at one point for a year or two, US Airways served more Caribbean destinations nonstop from the continental U.S. than any other airline. That was when US was flying to places like SKB/UVF/GND nonstop from CLT/PHL, while AA only offered Eagle service from SJU.

US no longer holds that distinction, though, with AA adding flights from MIA. I don't know whether DL or CO has passed US in that regard as well; I'd guess that DL has but that CO has not. In reality, though, all four of the airlines now basically fly to every island in the Caribbean that can support such service, with only a few differences here and there. Of course, that's only speaking as to destinations; AA of course holds a commanding lead in terms of seats over the other three, with US holding a slight (and shrinking) lead over DL for second place.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

We also have an ex-DCA Dash-8 300 series that apparently is going to LIAT as the aircraft is already serviced and painted all white with dark blue engines but I don't know when it will be delivered to LIAT or if for that matter as the aircraft has been parked here in the partial LIAT colors for a very long time.

Does anyone have an idea on the status of this aircraft and its relation to LIAT?

On my photo link below you can see this aircraft from a distance here in CUR (I have mentioned this aircraft in the remarks of the photo):


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Regards,

A388


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
AA1818, I remember you mentioning in another thread about BW/Caribbean Airways wanting to (re)start service from POS to CUR. Do you have an update on this? I'm very anxious as we need more airlift to CUR!!!

Thanks for your kind comments. No info on the new Caribbean Airlines. My guess is that there is little happenning to be honest since everything usually trickles down to my sources and nothing has come to me lately. The last think I was told, is that although the route is definitely being looked at with onward connection to either the Great Antilles, Central America or South America, it will probably not be one of the routes initially launched. Caribbean Airlines will be focussed on routes that are a sureity and that are necessary fro the economic viability of Trinidad and Tobago. I do expect, though, that CUR will be added eventually. The new fleet will be very small and will be fully utilized with minimal routes in January. But I can assure you, I am speaking to the right people and they assure me that CUR is definitely a possibility. I think it'll happen!!

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 14):
Hi AA how was NZ

Absolutely fantastic- first ride on an Airbus narrowbody- which i enjoyed more than my 737 rides!!! Also the 747-400 was AMAZING!!!!! Saw Hong Kong, Australia (Sydney and Canberra), New Zealand (the entire south island) and Singapore. In Queenstown, NZ I did a flight simulator- it was amazing check it out- www.flightexperience.co.nz -the owners son said they are looking at global expansion in 2007!!!!! Also did a fantastic helicopter ride, sat up from with the pilot!!!!

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 14):
Star has not been the great success that you think it is. The airline that you think was loosing more money was not.

I agree they are not the be all and end all of aviation, but for Caribbean Aviation they are truly a gem!

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 14):
The HQ will be at ANU for the time being. More focus will be given to BGI.
Expect management to be a true mixture of the two airlines. HQ may move to BGI this may not be in the immediate future but in the medium to long term.

This has been a possibility for about 5 years now, and it has been a bargaining tool with staff in Antigua and the Antiguan Gov't. Caribbean Star, through the merger will probably have 3 bases- ANu, BGI and POS, all with their special niche, and all perhaps given equal focus- the headquarters will be a matter of how much money the government of the winning island is willing to give the new enterprise and what concessions it can offer. I believe they will remain headquartered in ANU for the forseeable furture, unless there is a compelling reason to move, but in practice there will probably be 2 main headquarters one in ANU, the other BGI with a lesser HQ in POS- if that makes any sense!

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 14):
AA1818 any news on Caribbean Airlines. What will happen to the LHR route?? I heard that BA is to operate it for 5 years or until the airline gets a plane to fly the route? Any ideas about the new livery etc...

No real new news on Caribbean Airlines, but I can say that the last I heard (from the Board of Director's), the Gov't was negotiating with BA and possibly VS to serve the route. The problem is getting them to fly into POS. BA is a strong possibility. But basically a certin number of seats would be allocated to Caribbean Airlines for sale on behalf of them I gather. Caribbean Airlines, from the looks of things do intend on eventually serving the route when they get their long-haul a/c sorted out. I believe 9Y-JIL leased from VS A340-300 has already been returned or will be very soon...and 9Y-TJN might be on it's way out sooner than many think! Sad, but a reality we have to accept. BWIA is dying and in Trinidad and Tobago we are starting a not just a new chapter, but a new book in commercial aviation- POS will never look the same without the turquoise and yellow beauties!!!!!!

Cheers
Apologies for the length- got a bit carrier away/ too much coffee tonight!
AA1818



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

AA1818
Have any idea about what the new livery would look like?



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 18):
Have any idea about what the new livery would look like?

Better question, do think that a new livery can easily match BWs current striking scheme?



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4129 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 18):
Have any idea about what the new livery would look like?

Honestly I wish I did. And I doubt i'll be that priveledged to see what it looks like!

Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
Better question, do think that a new livery can easily match BWs current striking scheme?

I have a feeling that given the T&T Government's recent trends of attempting to further unite the Caribbean, hence the name of the new enterprise, the scheme would reflect something Trinidadian so as to remind people where the airline is from and to give it a special identity as its main base will be in POS. I don't think we will see a red, white and black, a/c but I certainly expect, and hope to see some sort of Trinidadian marking on the a/c's!

AA1818



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

I hope that the livery is not a euro white crap. Anyway I was watching my justplanes BWIA DVD. I am really going to miss BWIA. On the other hand I am excited to see what Caribbean Airlines is going to be like. Even more excited at what their choice would be for the widebody aircraft when they decide to re launch the london route (i know its sometime off but...). I wont mind having the flagship of the Caribbean Airlines' fleet being named Caribbean Dream Big grin


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 20):
I don't think we will see a red, white and black, a/c but I certainly expect, and hope to see some sort of Trinidadian marking on the a/c's!

I hope it would be something exciting but reflecting its home Trinidad and Tobago. When you look at it though, BWIA old and new colors were both smashing in its time. So think we caribbean people tend to have a good imagination and we tend to like style, so I expect something nice from Caribbean Airlines.

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 21):
I am really going to miss BWIA.

Boy, I dunno nah, this is difficult as it is kinda hard to imagine POS with no BeeWee planes and signage around. I hope they are going to keep the name of the highway to Piarco, BWIA Blvd in honour of the great airline.



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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 18):
Have any idea about what the new livery would look like?

I suppose the new airline's livery will be plain and unimaginative... just like the service and management of the old BW... if the whole thing comes to pass at all.

As far as the LIAT/Caribbean Star merger... I feel that Caribbean Star will have a virtual monopoly over inter-island transport. Additionally, they will not have the loyalty LIAT had for its destinations... Caribbean Star will be purely business and will pull out of an island the instant it loses a penny... stranding that islands inhabitants and forcing them to use second rate transportation to obtain viable air services on another island. But then again, I suppose Caribbean Star will have to come up with some sort of agreement with LIAT's island shareholders to avoid this scenario.

[Edited 2006-10-13 04:01:10]


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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Flybyguy

I was wondering why I did not come up with that answer myself. Then again I forget that I'm from the Caribbean and change is concept that we don’t do well with. The idea of having a regional carrier that provides consistant levels of good service while making a profit is to radical.

LOL a caribbean based viable carrier what a ludicrous idea....



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25 Post contains images Captaink : Isn't it ever. I agree with Flybyguy on the Caribbean Star / LIAT comment. About BW and its livery? I am not convinved. I think they would have a liv
26 AA1818 : It's gonna be soo weird. I am not going home this Christmas, and I am currently studying in the UK, so the last time I was at home was before the pla
27 Captaink : That is very true. The evidence lies in their Frequent Flyer program. For a new airline, Star has done wonders really. I am a bit biased as the handl
28 Captaink : Just a news update:
29 AA1818 : brilliant!!!!!! E195s 8B is coming for 'ya!!!!!! What we need to look at is the range of the E-jets to see how far you can get from POS, BGI, GND, GE
30 Lokey123 : I doubt this very much, Mr. Stanford has shown a great deal of committment to the airline and the region, even as CSA is currently a loss making enti
31 Post contains links and images Captaink : While those would be the most important markets, I think 8B would do well taking care of some smaller markets such as GND, which for the most part ha
32 BWIA 772 : Once the talks are completed the new airline is to be up and running by Jan 2007. The proposed plan was to collapse both airlines into a single new co
33 SWABFA : CARIBBEAN STAR ROCKS THE GALAXY!!!!
34 Post contains images Captaink : Always have..
35 AA1818 : Any chance you could also see how far the E-jets can make it to North and South America from POS, BGI and ANU?? The Gov'ts of the Caribbean Islands w
36 Captaink : POS has also always been a very important 8B market, even up to the point that at some point in their history they did a couple airbridge flights, PO
37 AA1818 : They still run air bridge flight AKAIK- I flew then sometime over the summer- LIAT also does/ did the airbridge. POS-CCS could be a market for 8B to
38 Captaink : I am not sure about a -300 doing the POS/KIN as it is a pretty long flight on the 737. But a 400 might be an idea. I guess we need to see what Caribb
39 Lokey123 : I'll give it the old college try and see what i come up with...will let you know what i come up with. I don't think that they will have a hand in thi
40 Captaink : While this is true, we would hope that their influence is minimal at least, because the sad truth is that it will not lead to a successful airline, i
41 Inbound : Who knows, ,maybe there won't be any need to give Caribbean Airlines a run. New rumour is if the Star/Liat merge takes place, its new name could quit
42 Post contains images Captaink : You just hadda come and complicate the thing eh.. Just joking. But no that does make the whole scenario interesting. I was reading a post on caribbea
43 Post contains images A388 : If BW and 8B/LI would combine forces that will indeed be a very powerful airline in our region, probably the most powerful Caribbean airline so far. L
44 AA1818 : As a Trini, I would say this is very favourable. No more handing out millions to a struggling carrier. However, the GOTT is very set on having a nati
45 Cedars747 : Wonderful news for the Caribbean aviation industry.I get very nostalgic when i remember spotting LIAT airplanes flying low from my house in Crossbies
46 AA1818 : Sorry for posting in this thread like 100 times, but I thought I should say that being from the Caribbean, I am really proud to see so much discussion
47 Westindian425 : I think we'll start to see things happening with JM once the dust starts to settle with BW and 8B/LI. It really has been quiet on that front. Now here
48 AA1818 : Is this a new thing or has this been the case for a long time?? If it is relatively recent (withint the last year) it could be a sign of things to co
49 JM017 : JM Express no longer exists. They stopped operations last October.
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