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Flybe To Charge For Check In And Using The Toilet?  
User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8333 times:

Seen in todays local Exeter based paper.....

Leading trade journal Travel Weekly has reported that booming Exeter-based, low-cost carrier flybe intends to charge passengers to check in at airports - probably £1.50 to £2.50 per head - once the proportion checking in online reaches 40-50 per cent within the next 18 months.It seems flybe chief Mike Rutter also considered the idea of fixing a lock on the toilet doors of flybe's new Embraer aircraft and charging £1 admission to any passenger unable to wait until the aircraft lands.

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User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 798 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8335 times:

Perhaps they would lower prices in other areas like when they introduced the new baggage policy.

Anyway, nice to see another EGTE a.netter.  Smile


User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8316 times:

Thanks! I do however feel that Flybe are starting to extract the water, and don't get me started on their rip off card charges, I'm surprised they can get away with that.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8282 times:

Quoting Trb10 (Thread starter):
It seems flybe chief Mike Rutter also considered the idea of fixing a lock on the toilet doors of flybe's new Embraer aircraft and charging £1 admission to any passenger unable to wait until the aircraft lands.

So, if this is made into policy, what happens when a penniless passenger really needs to "go" five minutes into the flight, and can't hold it in? It would be either the bathroom or the seat.

Discretion to flight attendants to give him a free token, I would imagine, would be one solution.

But then, the "free token in case of emergency" exception could be abused, I suppose.

Personally, I think that pay toilets on aircraft is a bit much.

[Edited 2006-10-10 13:20:15]

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3860 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8272 times:

Blimey O'Reilly!

What are they trying to do? Win the MO'L award?!


User currently offlineJobsaGoodun From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Am I the only one that thinks the last bit about the payment for toilets is just 'tongue and cheek' by both Flybe and the reporter.

Whilst charging to check-in is a logical step and one that will no doubt soon be pursued, the payment for toilets would be unworkable. I think they may just be joking on this one.


User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

I wouldn't put anything past them the way they are heading these days

User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8123 times:

We already have Wizz - so it will have to be Flypee

User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8030 times:

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 7):
We already have Wizz - so it will have to be Flypee

LOL, that was a good one. Big grin



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User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7606 times:

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 7):
We already have Wizz - so it will have to be Flypee

Haha!

Yes.. I agree the check-in fee seems reasonable enough - it's a good and easy way to make a profit - but the toilet charge is a bit of a joke! and even if it was 'Tongue In Cheek'... he's supplying MOL with more ideas  Smile



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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7571 times:

Surely they're taking the piss?
I'm crawling back to my hole now. Yeah sure


User currently offlineCY319 From Cyprus, joined Apr 2006, 396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 7):
so it will have to be Flypee

that s a good one!!!  Smile

I am totally against charging for using WCs. i consider it absurd.
whenever one is at a confined place (e.g. plane,train, boat,restaurant,shopping centre) toilet facilities at this place should be free. since a customer has already paid to receive the primary service provided in this place, i think it s too much charging extra for the provision of WCs.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7424 times:

Quoting RichM (Reply 1):
Anyway, nice to see another EGTE a.netter.

I was born just outside Barnstaple, N. Devon, and lived there for about 18 years. So I guess EGTE has always been my local airport, although I no longer live in Devon.

I can't wait to fly EXT-GCI-JER on the 2nd November.  Big grin

Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of this proposal, although BE were the first European airline to begin pay-for-checked-in-luggage, so who knows?



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7382 times:

It's pretty scandalous, considering how much BE are raking in on their outrageous fuel surcharges etc. Fare EXT-CDG = GBP21.00 - taxes and fees = GBP36.00 - hyuh ! Plus 5 squids to book a seat, and GBP1.50 to check luggage. And GBP7.50 to pay by credit card (ka-CHING !) - they must be coining it.

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7353 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 13):
And GBP7.50 to pay by credit card (ka-CHING !) - they must be coining it.

Oh don't get me started on credit card payments. Bmi flights at the moment (which i tend to use for LHR-BRU) charge you for paying by credit card UNLESS you pay by a bmi mastercard. As one assumes that the cost of processing this is exactly the same as any other Mastercard transaction, surely there is something fundamentally wrong in this. Clearly there are no las that stop them - but there should be. This is purely a charge to encourage people to sign up to a bmi mastercard.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7290 times:

All those who didn't see this coming raise your hand.

The problem is that all of these "fees" used to be included in the price of the ticket. Now with everyone's race-to-the-bottom for rock-bottom fares, they are figuring out that things like lavatory servicing and bag check-in cost money. And now they are going to have to find ways to pay for it.

It always amazes me that in the general public people won't blink an eye at paying $5 for a cup of gourmet coffee but will scream bloody murder when an airfare goes up by $5.

Not that any of us a.netter's would do so - we all know better.  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1831 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7157 times:

Quoting Trb10 (Thread starter):
It seems flybe chief Mike Rutter also considered the idea of fixing a lock on the toilet doors of flybe's new Embraer aircraft and charging £1 admission to any passenger unable to wait until the aircraft lands.

AH AH AH. I was wondering when a LCC would charge for using WC  crazy . Next time, a passenger who breathe more than another will pay also a surcharge leaving the aircraft because he's using more air ???? Angry
This is a scandal. Another good reason to not use such airlines

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 9):
I agree the check-in fee seems reasonable enough

How can you say that ? And if you want a smile at check-in, just add an additional £1 ?  banghead 


User currently offlineEric From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

As much as I think airlines love the idea of charging for toilets I do not think it is possible to do it.

Think about it,

to reduce the costs you'd have to insert a light coin slot - this would normally only accept one type of coins, lets say the �1, so passengers using FlyBE from CDG as their first leg would have to have have a �1 which there is no reason to think they will have - it will alienate their customers as they can't use the bathrooms. If not you would need an FA with a key to the bathrooms, manpower costs money and the FA could be used elsewhere (to sell inboard products).

Alternatively they could do like luggage, and you could pre-book 'the visit'.

I think it will be more likely that they would remove toilets and insert seat in stead.


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7047 times:

I feel that the bathroom charge is ludicrous but the check in fee I can see becoming commonplace. Just as Paper Tickets used to be free and are not free any more, I can see all airlines in the future charging for checkin with a human being (special circumstances notwithstanding).

User currently offline757lgw From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

I can just about cope with the baggage charging that they make , but if they do charge for check-in and toilet then they will have lost a loyal customer, at the moment im impressed at the prices and service they offer but if im going to be charged for check in and the toilet then i will switch to the competition.

User currently offlineJobsaGoodun From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6787 times:

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 16):
How can you say that ? And if you want a smile at check-in, just add an additional £1 ?

As with most airlines looking to eliminate costs they inturn have invested significant sums of money in development and giving passengers an alternative via an online facility. If people book online and are not willing to check-in online then why not charge them to use the alternative method at the airport. There is no reason why the airline should bear this cost when a cost free alternative is in existance.

People don't like change and will always stick with what they know out of comfort. Some financial penalty soon changes this and coaxes the consumer into trying the alternative if its cheaper!

[Edited 2006-10-12 14:56:41]

[Edited 2006-10-12 14:57:17]

User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6714 times:

Charging for use of the toilet!

Is it not illegal in this country (UK) to sell food/drink without providing free conveniences?


User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 21):
Charging for use of the toilet!

Is it not illegal in this country (UK) to sell food/drink without providing free conveniences?

Kings Cross Station charges 20p to use the toilets, as does Brighton


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3701 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6568 times:

What the hell? Charge for using the toilet! As others have said the cost to install the relevant equipment isn't worth the measly charges they'll accrue. If they do decide to do this can see it being a real mess...People not having the right coins, people peeing in bottles, holding it in and it going awry', not to mention the bad publicity....if BE want to make some money then stick on a Public Convenience surcharge...or raise the price of tickets by about 50p!

Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 21):
Is it not illegal in this country (UK) to sell food/drink without providing free conveniences?

Last time I checked, the kebab van in my local town didn't have a portaloo attached to the side of it...

In the UK I think all immobile establishments that charge for food and provide more than a certain number of seats have to provide facilities.



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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6530 times:

Totally with them there.
If I was running the show there, I would slap charges on the toilet, seats, using the aisle, using the doors, using the bus to get to the gate, using the jet bridge, and seat tax.
Thanks
Alex


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