I have decided to continue with my tributes, to the planes that have marked commercial aviation. Whether they contributed little or a lot, the fact is that all had an influence in molding aviation as we know.
For this tribute I have chosen the Lockheed L1011 Tristar. I must admit that this beauty is one of my all time favourites. It's also a shame that it, like many other airplanes had such a premature end. So lets all take a look back into the history of the Tristar, and the last commercial airplane to be produced by Lockheed.
The Lockheed L-1011 Tristar, commonly referred to as just L-1011 was the third widebody passenger jet airliner to enter operation, following the Boeing 747 and the McDonnell Douglas DC-10.
Development of the Lockheed L-1011 Tristar began in 1966 when American Airlines announced a need for a short to medium-range, large-capacity transport. In March of 1968, production began when Lockheed received orders for their design from TWA and Eastern Airlines. American Airlines opted instead for the Douglas DC-10, although it had shown considerable interest in the L-1011.
The prototype first flew on November 16, 1970. The crew for that flight was H. B. Dees (pilot), R. C. Cokeley (copilot), and G. E. Fisher (development engineer). The first Tristar was finally delivered to Eastern Air Lines on April 26, 1972. the twin-aisle Tristar was considered a technological marvel of its day, featuring low noise emissions, improved reliability, and efficient operation. Although the Tristar design schedule closely followed that of its fierce competitor, the DC-10, Douglas beat Lockheed to market by a year due to delays in power-plant development. Rolls-Royce, the maker of the Tristar's RB211 turbofan engines, had filed for bankruptcy, halting L-1011 final assembly. The Tristar only offered the Rolls-Royce RB.211 engine while the DC-10 offered both Pratt & Whitney
Designed for a maximum seating of 400 passengers, the Tristar utilized a new engine layout: in addition to Rolls-Royce turbofan jet engines on each wing, a third engine was located dorsally below the vertical stabilizer. Manufactured in Lockheed facilities in Burbank and Palmdale, California, the Tristar faced brisk competition with the Boeing 747 and, even more directly, the McDonnell Douglas DC-10, which it closely resembled. and General Electric engines.
The L-1011 was the first widebody to receive FAA certification for Cat-IIIc auto-landing, which approved the Tristar for completely blind landings in zero-visibility weather. In theory it could even taxi to the gate in zero visibility if the airport was properly equipped.
Technologically the L-1011 was considered to be largely ahead of its time. In addition to the Cat-IIIc auto-landing capability, it had a unique Direct Lift Control (DLC) system which allowed for smooth approaches when landing; four redundant hydraulic systems (the DC10 and MD11 had only three); it also utilized a unique "autoclave" system for bonding fuselage panels together. This made the L-1011 extremely resistant to corrosion.
Delta Air Lines was the type's largest customer. Cathay Pacific eventually became the largest non-US operator of the type by acquiring many of the Eastern Air Lines examples when Eastern Air Lines went bankrupt, operating as many as 21 aircraft. However, most major airlines have retired the type from their fleets. Cathay Pacific retired its L-1011 fleet in October 1996, replacing the fleet with Airbus A330-300. TWA withdrew its last Tristar from service in 1997. Delta retired its Tristar fleet in 2001, replacing them with the Boeing 767-400ER.
The Tristar has also been used as a military tanker and cargo aircraft. The Royal Air Force has nine aircraft of four variants. The aircraft are ex-British Airways and Pan Am L-1011-500s. Two of the aircraft are designated Tristar K.MK 1s and are pure tankers. Another four are KC1s and can be either tankers or cargo aircraft. The two Tristar C.Mk 2 models and the solitary Tristar C. Mk 2A are pure cargo aircraft. The C2A differs from the C2 by having military avionics and radios. The RAF's TriStars were bought in the immediate aftermath of the Falklands War to bolster the long range capability of the RAF in the transport and tanker roles. All of the aircraft serve with No. 216 Squadron, based at RAF Brize Norton.
Variants L-1011-1
The L-1011-1 was the first production model of the L-1011, designed for short and medium-range flights. This type was purchased by Air Canada, ANA, Cathay Pacific, Eastern and other operators with regional trunk routes requiring a widebody aircraft.
L-1011-100
The L-1011-100 first flew in 1975 and featured a new center fuel tank that increased the aircraft's range by nearly 1,500 km. It was purchased by several airlines with longer-range routes, such as TWA and British Caledonian. L-1011-200
The L-1011-200 was introduced in 1976. Although otherwise similar to the -100 model, the -200 uses Rolls-Royce RB.211-524B engines to improve its performance in hot and high-altitude conditions. Gulf Air used -200 models to replace its aging Vickers VC-10 fleet.
L-1011-5008
The L-1011-500 was a longer-range variant first flight tested in 1978. Its fuselage length was shortened by 14 feet (4.3 m) to accommodate higher fuel loads; it also utilizes the more powerful engines of the -200 series. The -500 series was popular among international operators and formed most of the L-1011 fleet of Delta and British Airways.
12.29.1972 Eastern Air Lines Lockheed L-1011-1 Tristar
Fatalities: 100/176
Accident Description:The aircraft was forced to break off its approach to Miami International Airport after the nose-gear light failed to illuminate, indicating that the gear was properly lowered. While in a holding pattern at 2,000 feet over the Everglades National Park, the Captain bumped his control column, leading to the disconnection of the autopilot. With the attention of all three crew members focused on the landing gear and the extinguished light, the aircraft descended unnoticed into the ground.
08.19.1980 Saudi Arabian Airlines Lockheed L-1011-1 Tristar
Fatalities: 301/301
The crew reported a fire shortly after takeoff from Riyadh. After returning to the airport and making a successful emergency landing, the cabin crew was unable to open the doors due to an electrical failure. 15 minutes later, when rescuers finally opened the first door, all aboard had died of smoke inhalation.
12.23.1980 Saudi Arabian Airlines Lockheed L-1011-200
Fatalities 2/288
During cruise, a tire exploded in the wheel well, putting a hole in the floor and causing a rapid decompression in which two passengers were ejected from the aircraft.
08.02.1985 Delta Air Lines Lockheed L-1011-385-1
Fatalities: 134/163 + 1
The aircraft crashed short of the runway while attempting to land on runway 17L at DFW. Descending through 600 feet, the aircraft encountered severe microburst induced windshear and was pushed toward the ground. Despite the application of maximum power by the crew, the aircraft touched down in a field, careened across a busy highway snapping off light posts, and struck a car with its no.1 engine, killing the occupant. The aircraft then entered the airport property with a ground speed of 212 knots and impacted two 4 million gallon water towers. The NTSB cited known flight into severe weather conditions for causing the accident.
05.03.1986 Air Lanka Lockheed L-1011-100
Fatalities: 16/128
16 passengers were killed when a bomb exploded while the aircraft was sitting at the gate. The device had been timed to explode during flight, but the aircraft had been delayed off the gate.
Hopefully all have enjoyed getting a better understanding into the history of the L-1011. Stay tuned for my next tribute which should be made early next week.
Accident Description:The aircraft was forced to break off its approach to Miami International Airport after the nose-gear light failed to illuminate, indicating that the gear was properly lowered. While in a holding pattern at 2,000 feet over the Everglades National Park, the Captain bumped his control column, leading to the disconnection of the autopilot. With the attention of all three crew members focused on the landing gear and the extinguished light, the aircraft descended unnoticed into the ground.
This one is also the source of a very interesting and scary ghost story...
Spruit From United Kingdom (England), joined Oct 2005, 375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10114 times:
Lindy Field From United States, joined Mar 2001, 2950 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10105 times:
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An interesting and enjoyable tribute Wings, but I am afraid to say that I spotted a couple of errors. I think you might double-check your facts where you state that the L-1011-100 was purchased by British Caledonian and where you suggest that the L-1011-500 formed most of the fleet of Delta Air Lines.
23.32:35 RDO-1 Miami Tower, Eastern 401 just turned on final
23.32:45 TWR Who else called?
23.32:48 CAM-1 Go ahead and throw 'em out
23.32:52 RDO-1 Miami Tower, do you read, Eastern 401? Just turned on final
23.32:56 TWR Eastern 401 Heavy, continue approach to 9 left
23.33:00 RDO-1 Coninue approach, roger
23.33:00 CAM-3 Continuous ignition. No smoke
CAM-1 Coming on
CAM-3 Brake system
CAM-1 Okay
CAM-3 Radar
CAM-1 Up, off
CAM-3
CAM-? * * *
CAM-3 Engine crossbleeds are open
23.33:22 CAM-? Gear down
CAM-? * * *
CAM-1 I gotta
CAM-? .....
23.33:25 CAM-1 I gotta raise it back up
23.33:47 CAM-1 Now I'm gonna try it down one more time
CAM-2 All right
23.33:58 CAM [sound of altitude alert horn]
CAM-2 (Right) gear.
CAM-2 Well, want to tell 'em we'll take it around and circle around and # around?
23.34:05 RDO-1 Well ah, tower, this is Eastern, ah, 401. It looks like we're gonna have to circle, we don't have a light on our nose gear yet
23.34:14 TWR Eastern 401 heavy, roger, pull up, climb straight ahead to two thousand, go back to approach control, one twenty eight six
23.34:19 CAM-2 Twenty-two degrees.
CAM-2 Twenty-two degrees, gear up
CAM-1 Put power on it first, Bert. Thata boy.
CAM-1 Leave the # # gear down tll we fid out what we got
CAM-2 Allright
You want me to test the lights or not?
CAM-1 Yeah.
CAM-? * * seat back
CAM-1 Check it
CAM-2 Uh, Bob, it might be the light. Could you jiggle tha, the light?
CAM-3 It's gotta, gotta come out a little bit and then snap in
CAM-? * *
CAM-? I'll put 'em on
23.34:21 RDO-1 Okay, going up to two thousand, one twenty-eight six
23.34:58 CAM-2 We're up to two thousand
CAM-2 You want me to fly it, Bob?
CAM-1 What frequency did he want us on, Bert?
CAM-2 One twenty-eight six
CAM-1 I'll talk to 'em
CAM-3 It''s right ...........
CAM-1 Yeah, ............
CAM-3 I can't make it pull out, either
CAM-1 We got pressure
CAM-3 Yes sir, all systems
CAM-1 # #
23.35:09 RDO-1 All right ahh, Approach Control, Eastern 401, we're right over the airport here and climbing to two thousand f
23.35:20 APP Eastern 401, roger. Turn left heading three six zero and maintain two thousand, vectors to 9 Left final
23.35:28 RDO-1 Left three six zero
23.36:04 CAM-1 Put the ... on autopilot here
CAM-2 Allright
CAM-1 See if you can get that light out
CAM-2 Allright
CAM-1 Now push the switches just a ... forward.
CAM-1 Okay.
CAM-1 You got it sideways, then.
CAM-? Naw, I don't think it'll fit.
CAM-1 You gotta turn it one quarter turn to the left.
23.36:27 APP Eastern 401, turn left heading three zero zero
RDO-1 Okay.
23.36:37 RDO-1 Three zero zero, Eastern 401
23.37:08 CAM-1 Hey, hey, get down there and see if that damn nose wheel's down. You better do that.
CAM-2 You got a handkerchief or something so I can get a little better grip on this? Anything I can do with it?
CAM-1 Get down there and see if that, see if that # thing ...
CAM-2 This won't come out, Bob. If I had a pair of pliers, I could cushion it with that Kleenex
CAM-3
CAM-2 Yeah, I'll cushion it with Kleenex
CAM-3 Oh, we can give you pliers
23.37:48 APP Eastern, uh, 401 turn left heading two seven zero
23.37:53 RDO-1 Left two seven zero, roger
23.38:34 CAM-1 To # with it, to # with this. Go down ans see if it's lined up with the red line. That's all we care. # around with that # twenty-cent piec
CAM * * *
23.38:46 RDO-1 Eastern 401 'll go ah, out west just a little further if we can here and, ah, see if we can get this light to come on here
23.38:54 APP Allright, ah, we got you headed westbound there now, Eastern 401
23.38:56 RDO-1 Allright
CAM-1 How much fuel we got left on this # # # #
CAM-? Fifty two five
CAM-2 (It won't come out) no way
23.39:37 CAM-1 Did you ever take it out of there?
CAM-2 Huh?
CAM-1 Have you evre taken it out of there?
CAM-2 Hadn't till now
CAM-1 Put it in the wrong way, huh?
CAM-2 In there looks * square to me
CAM-? Can't y CAM-? * * *
CAM-? Whatever's wrong?
CAM-1 (What's that?)
23.40:05 CAM-2 I think that's over the training field
CAM-? West heading you wanna go left or *
CAM-2 Naw that's right, we're about to cross Krome Avenue right now
23.40:17 CAM [Sound of click]
CAM-2 I don't know what the # holding that # # # # in
CAM-2 Always something, we coulda make schedule
23.40:38 CAM [Sound of altitude alert]
CAM-1 We can tell if that # # # # is down by looking down at our indices
CAM-1 I'm sure it's down, there's no way it couldnt help but be
CAM-2 I'm sure it is
CAM-1 It freefalls down
CAM-2 The tests didn't show that the lights worked anyway
CAM-1 That 's right
CAM-2 It's a faulty light
23.41:05 CAM-2 Bob, this # # # # just won't come out
CAM-1 Allright leave it there
CAM-3 I don't see it down there
Huh?
CAM-3 I don't see it
CAM-1 You can't see that indis ... for the nosewheel ah, there's a place in there you can look and see if they're lined up
CAM-3 I know, a little like a telescope
CAM-1 Yeah
CAM-3 Well...
CAM-1 It's not lined up?
CAM-3 I can't see it, it's pitch dark and I throw the little light I get ah nothing
23.41:31 CAM-4 Wheel-well lights on?
CAM-3 Pardon?
CAM-4 Wheel-well lights on?
CAM-3 Yeah wheel well lights always on if the gear's down
CAM-1 Now try it
23.41:40 APP Eastern, ah 401 how are things comin' along out there?
23.41:44 RDO-1 Okay, we'd like to turn around and come, come back in
CAM-1 Clear on left?
CAM-2 Okay
23.41:47 APP Eastern 401 turn left heading one eight zero
23.41:50 CAM-1 Huh?
23.41:51 RDO-1 One eighty
23.42:05
CAM-1 What?
23.42:07 CAM-2 We're still at two thousand right?
23.42:09 CAM-1 Hey, what's happening here?
CAM [Sound of click]
23.42:10 CAM [Sound of six beeps similar to radio altimeter increasing in rate]
23.42:12 [Sound of impact]
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2783 posts, RR: 75 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10041 times:
Quoting Lindy Field (Reply 4): An interesting and enjoyable tribute Wings, but I am afraid to say that I spotted a couple of errors. I think you might double-check your facts where you state that the L-1011-100 was purchased by British Caledonian
Well Caledonian did in fact operate the L-1011-100, but not British Caledonian as you stated.
Quoting Lindy Field (Reply 4): and where you suggest that the L-1011-500 formed most of the fleet of Delta Air Lines.
Would you happen to have the number break down of the models in which Delta operated?
FlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2178 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9980 times:
Great Tribute Wings, I love the L1011 such a classic airliner.
I thought BA bought the L1011 and BCAL opted for the DC-10s which were inherited by BA following the takeover. Then both the L1011 and DC10 went to Caledonian (the charter airline, formerly British Airtours).
As a sidenote, does anyone know of any scheduled L1011 flights out of Europe that I could get a ticket for?
Phil
FlyingColours
Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9947 times:
I think it was a shame that the BiStar never became reality, then perhaps the Tristar could´ve been more of a commercial success, not only technological success.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 4546 posts, RR: 60 Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9745 times:
The Tristar was one plane I'll miss for sure. First time I flew it was on BA from CDG to LHR in I think 1982... Then flew it again a few years later on Cathay... pity I didn't have more experiences flying them.
The unique feature I'll remember on the Tristar is the "roller trimmer" on the yoke instead of trim switches, I've heard this enables smoother and more precise trim selection...
I also love the "FMC" it had that I think was one of the first to combine INS and Perfomance Data Computers, making it one of the first aircraft to have a true VNAV automation.
The glass cockpit they planned (anyone got pics of it or the mockup) was also very/extremely neat, if I remember correctly it looks tidier and neater than the ones on the 757/767...
Gotta love the "blunt dolphin' shaped nose... (quick gradient change on the top, and slower on the bottom)... and that S-Duct... (especially the -500)... beats the DC-10 on aesthetics !
Mandala499
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
Lindy Field From United States, joined Mar 2001, 2950 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9695 times:
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Here is some detail on the L-1011s operated by Delta, current as of 1998. I don't think they acquired any second-hand examples after that time. Only about one in four of the Delta L-1011s were -500s, most second-hand from Pan Am and Air Canada. The info comes from the Aeromoe fleet list for Delta Air Lines Sorry that the info is somewhat difficult to read, I recommend having a look at the source document.
Reg. Type c/n Fleet No. Former Reg. Date Acquired/Date Retired
727Tiger From United States, joined Dec 2005, 122 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9621 times:
Great post, Wings.
The L-1011 remains one of my personal favorites, along with the 727 (Hmm, I wonder why?). I had the privilege of flying them on Eastern, Delta and TWA.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 12245 posts, RR: 57 Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9591 times:
Ah yes! The L-1011. The very first aircraft I used for a Transatlantic flight. I just wish I could remember how it was though when I flew on one on what also was my very first Transatlantic hop ever, MIA-HAM on LT. I fell asleep througout the flight and can only remember something when I got to immigration at HAM.
I just wish I re-live that experience as an Adult, because in 1989 I was barely 6.
Zu fettigem Käse und kalorienreicher Kunstmarmelade, nehme ich einen Doppelkorn.
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7112 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9553 times:
I think the biggest mistake Lockheed made with the L1011 was overly-tailoring the plane to Rolls-Royce RB.211 engine. Due to Rolls-Royce's severe cost overruns developing that engine, it nearly sank the L1011 program. If Lockheed to developed the plane so it could accept the Pratt & Whitney JT9D or General Electric CF6 engine in addition to the RB.211 it's likely that Lockheed would have sold MANY more L1011's, and the production line would have kept on going at least until 1990.
Lindy Field From United States, joined Mar 2001, 2950 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9506 times:
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Hello again Wings,
Here is some info on Caledonian Airways. Note that there were two different Caledonian Airways! The second one was a rebranding of British Airtours and BCal Charter. It was this second iteration which operated the L-1011, formerly of British Airtours.
Here is a link to a wikipedia article on British Caledonian, a famous DC-10 operator.
Gmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2111 posts, RR: 30 Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9425 times:
Hey Great Post,
Just wondering there was no mention about the galley down below... I think that was an interesting feature.... As well how its a "lift" and not an elevator... There is a great video, Royal Airlines L1011 from YYZ-LAS-YYZ. The Captain was amazing and explained the aircraft perfectly.
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2783 posts, RR: 75 Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9371 times:
Quoting Gmonney (Reply 18):
Just wondering there was no mention about the galley down below... I think that was an interesting feature.... As well how its a "lift" and not an elevator...
Well Pointed out Gmonney. The Airliners.net photo data base has some pics of the L-1011 galleys.
747hogg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9171 times:
Wonder what the real story was on the EAL L1011 that was junked out with about only 30.000 total hours? really about 1/3 of the life that plane should have had. I was in Marana in 1990 and saw it on the line... later saw on a.net that it was busted up.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 4358 posts, RR: 15 Reply 25, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9122 times:
Great airplane, the L1011. Growing up in the West Indies, I have very fond 20 min memories of flying to POS on an L1011. We called it as kids, "the big BeeWee.."
BWIA used the 'Tristar" for quite some, until recently retired and replaced by the A340.
26 Pihero: The first thing one would notice, entering the Tristar cockpit was an impression of light and comfort :the instrument panels were neatly laid, the use
27 1011: Hey great post on the L10 which was and still is my fav airplane. I've been on 62 of DLs L10s. I sure miss flying on them. I took them for granted. I
28 EddieDude: Thanks so much for starting this thread and posting the information related to the L-1011's Bruno. I flew from BOS to MCO with DL in December 1995 in
29 LTU932: You probably mean Thai Sky Airlines, which has a few ex DL L-1011s.
30 MEA-707: Unfortunately Thai Sky grounded the Tristars and ceased operations in august due to lack of spares. I flew on them last year to Hong Kong and back, v
31 Bh: A great airplane indeed! My first and only L-1011 flight was on a Air Ops L-1011 doing a springbreak subservice for a Ritch International L-1011, BWI-
32 474218: Wings, It was very apropos you posted this on October (tenth month) eleven (eleventh day) or 1011. You did a great job and having been on the L-1011 p
33 BWIA 772: BWIA was the last carrier who bought the aircraft new to retire them in Jan of 2003. The L1011 was a great aircraft and I miss flying on them.
34 TransIsland: Thanks for this tribute, I enjoyed it!
35 YVRLTN: Hi Wings Great idea and a great post - the Tristar will always be special to me as it was the first aircraft I ever flew on in October '87, British Ai
36 EasternSon: Luzair (Portugal) is rumored to be putting one back in the air sometime soon. For what purpose, I couldn't say. My old man flew L1011's for Eastern f
37 EddieDude: Genau! Danke schön Richie. It is a shame that Thai Sky has already grounded them.
38 ClassicLover: Awesome post - thanks so much for sharing. If you have any other L1011 memories, bring them on - would love to read them!
39 Flyabunch: Thanks for the great post. I really enjoy the posts on this site that create a great historical perspective. The L-1011 is my favorite aircraft of all
40 RiddlePilot215: An amazing tribute, to an even more amazing airplane I'll never forget the sound of those RB211's at full blast for an L1011 takeoff roll and climbout
41 AsstChiefMark: I remember seeing my first L-1011. I was planespotting with my dad on the Blue Concourse in the MSP terminal in 1973. An Eastern L-1011 was carefully
42 Jman40: I flew the L-1011 only once on a charter on Rich International Airways in 1995. I always loved seeing Delta's at DFW. What a great airplane.
43 NorthstarBoy: sleek, beautiful, fast, smooth. just a couple of adjectives to describe the incomparable L1011. there will never be another plane like it. one of my m
44 RW717: My first L1011 (and widebody) flight was in the early 80's on TW from LAS to PHX. The plane continued on to JFK and FRA, IIRC. My Grandmother and I wo
45 LTU932: Bitte, kein Problem. Indeed. I wish I could still have the chance of flying on one of those TriStars, though it's very unlikely I'll ever be in an L-
46 RayChuang: I have a couple of memories about the L1011: 1) I've only flown the plane once, a UA flight from NRT to SFO on an ex-Pan Am L1011-500 in 1986. The fli
47 Jaysit: Great post. I loved the Tristar, and remember taking it on Gulf Air, Cathay Pacific and British Airways on their regional Europe holiday routes like
48 NWOrientDC10: True Here you go http://www.flightlevel350.com/ My favorite 1011 flights were on TWA flight 702; LAX-JFK-PHL - a red eye. Dep. Lax 10:00 p.m., Arr. P
49 Mandala499: The Basic FMC demands you to be careful on where she wants to go, but once on its way, she doesn't make it difficult for you... Pure INS makes it hell
50 Skibum9: He's an ex-cop with a bad mouth, a bad attitude, and a bad seat. For the terrorists on flight 163 . . . he's very bad news. John Cutter (Wesley Snipes
51 N31029: Hi Everyone. Not only my all-time favorite aircraft type, but, (in my opinion) the most innovative, most interesting, and most beautiful commercial je
52 RandyWaldron: Are you planning on publishing your a.net novel, WINGS? Wrong! Get your facts straight. When was the L1011-500 forming "most" of Delta's fleet? The la
53 Riyadhnurse: Many comfortable & roomy flts on L1011,SV,PA,TWA etc. Don't know the reason why, the "ear popping" didn't affect me as bad as other planes. Its my fav
54 3MilesToWRO: Sounds like in "Blues Brothers" movie: '-What music do you play here? - We have both. Country and Western.'
55 KiwiTEAL: Heres a couple of photos I found.......... All courtesy of a wonderful book published in 2003 by Geoffrey Thomas and Christine Forbes-Smith (both Aust
56 474218: The first L-1011 to be scraped was Eastern N306EA (L-1011-193A s/n 1007) the 7th L-1011 built and the first to be delivered. Eastern sold it in 1982
57 TAN FLYR: I eremember reading that during the evaluation at UA, the M & E guys at SFO concluded that the 1011 was a better aircraft than the DC-10, technologicl
58 Domokun: I love the L-1011. I was reading this thread yesterday and thought to myself "damn, I want to see one again." Today @ SEA I got my wish ... now I just
59 474218: Fantastic photo! In addition to the condensation you managed to catch the Active Control System in operation. Both outboard ailerons are deflected up
60 Viscount724: Apart from the inserted photos which I think most a.netters can find without much difficulty, this "Tribute" is a verbatim cut-and-paste of the Wikipe
61 Domokun: Thank you - I was fiddling with my camera when I saw this thing rocket off the runway; I could not believe what I was seeing. Good catch on the ACS,
62 Pihero: And it's also bad form to criticize the subject of a tribute. I bet you wouldn't do that during a funeral. That said,comparing the -10 with a Tri* is
63 NWOrientDC10: Was this really necessary? This could have been said in an e-mail. BTW, great topic, Wings Russell
64 WINGS: Before throwing Wrong comments around why don't you actually re read my tribute's. You will easily find all the links from were I got the info from.
65 Viscount724: My sincere apologies. I completely overlooked the link to Wikipedia and the other source at the bottom of your posting. I only started participating
66 TristarSteve: Actually Gulf Air bought 4 L1011-100 aircraft. At thye time of the order GF was going to set up a hub in Beirut, and operate from there to BAH AUH DX
67 727200er: Back in the day my family only flew CP Air and PWA. The only exception to this was when we could positively get a seat on an L10-11 at AC. We all love