LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10879 times:
My wife sent me a text from work saying they have an aircraft returning to LHR with a 'code 90', which means 'aircraft accident imminent'.
I just heard on the radio that a Kuwait Airways aircraft was struck by lightning and suffered an engine failure on departure, during the heavy thunder storms we've had this morning.
It has landed safely back at LHR now, according to LBC 97.3 news.
Edit - it was the KU102, returned safely as KU102R, landed at 1202pm LCL.
Lovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10495 times:
Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 1): What does the "R" mean at the end of the number 102? KU102R? Is that supposed to mean that the aircraft is in distress?
I would assume that it means return, as in KU102R-eturning to LHR at a guess.
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9818 times:
We had an a/c get struck that landed about 10-15 mins before that Kuwait. Was supposed to depart later, but the flight got cancelled and pax put on a later service due to the damage the lightning caused.
"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
B7878 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9759 times:
what's going on with KU these days...last week there was another incident on a flight from DAC to KWI which had to be returned to DAC after 30 mins.
LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9549 times:
Quoting B7878 (Reply 9): what's going on with KU these days...last week there was another incident on a flight from DAC to KWI which had to be returned to DAC after 30 mins.
Don't you mean "what's going on with mother nature"? It's a lightning strike, nothing that KU or any other carrier could predict with any degree of certainty!
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9414 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 11): Thank God it was an A340, with four engins; at least when one gets damaged you have three spare ones!
The 777's engine is more then powerful enough to pick up the slack....
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9311 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 11): Thank God it was an A340, with four engins; at least when one gets damaged you have three spare ones!
Not in an A340, it can barely climb with four! Haha. Only kidding.
All aircraft are designed to be able to climb out with half their powerplants working. (Though I don't know whether 3-engined aircraft must have single engine or double engine capability).
A 777 would have had absolutely no problem climbing, especially with the thrust those engines have. Even an aged 762 can climb with one engine out, as shown last year by US in AMS.
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Augustrg From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8513 times:
Quoting Geo772 (Reply 2): It returned about 10 minutes later and landed on 09L safely.
LHR-KWI. Wouldn't they have to dump fuel before landing? Can they do that and return to the airport in just 10 minutes?
FSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7915 times:
Quoting B7878 (Reply 9): what's going on with KU these days
Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1446 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7704 times:
Quoting Augustrg (Reply 14): Wouldn't they have to dump fuel before landing? Can they do that and return to the airport in just 10 minutes
Would you dump fuel with an engine fire? Seems rather reckless to me. Perhaps the flight was sufficiently light to be above max landing weight without needing to dump fuel.
Bren
I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7575 times:
Quoting Brenintw (Reply 16): Would you dump fuel with an engine fire? Seems rather reckless to me. Perhaps the flight was sufficiently light to be above max landing weight without needing to dump fuel.
Or of course it could have been one of those situations that required landing over the maximum landing weight. Depends how well the fire handle worked I guess.
CBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1506 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6976 times:
Quoting Brenintw (Reply 16): Would you dump fuel with an engine fire? Seems rather reckless to me. Perhaps the flight was sufficiently light to be above max landing weight without needing to dump fuel.
Bren
Or you pull the fire extinguisher handle, put the fire out. Then shut down the engine and you are good to dump fuel!
Chuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 700 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6310 times:
Dumping fuel over london would NOT be appreciated by the local residents.
I believe that fuel jettison procedures recommend not jettisoning below 10.000ft, as otherwise the fuel will not have dispersed and somebody's going to get it in the face...
there is however a procedure for landing above MLW, I guess the inspections/tyre replacements you might need wouldn't affect aircraft availability more than replacing an engine...
PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5799 times:
Quoting Augustrg (Reply 14): Wouldn't they have to dump fuel before landing?
No, I think it's the right choice they made. Even if an engine burns out, it's safe to land the plane quickly. A fire on a plane is never a good idea when you're flying, you need to be able to land quick if the situation gets out of hand. Going up to 10'000 plus above sea would have taken the 340 too far away from any landing strip in case of emergency.
SR111's mistakes showed us one thing: when anything burns, you'd better hurry up and land the plane, no matter what the weight.
Philippe
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CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5612 times:
LHR - KWI isnt even half the range of an A340 - dunno what the loads were like but she may have been not that far above max landing weight.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
26 ANITIX87: It's unfortunate that in this business we usually learn things the hard way, through mistakes and tragedies. Very good that the crew of this aircraft
27 Leezyjet: If the situation is serious enough, then you would dump fuel immediately no matter what the height. The residents I'm sure would appreciate a good Je
28 RJ111: Doesn't most of the dumped fuel vaporise anyway? Probably depends on height.
29 Leezyjet: Depends on the height, thats why it usually takes place over 10,000ft.
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