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Plane Crashes Into NYC Highrise  
User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14133 times:

Breaking news now


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[Edited 2006-10-11 21:18:48]


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User currently offlineMCIFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14152 times:

NEW YORK (AP) - Broadcast reports say a small aircraft has
crashed into a building in New York City.

The building is described as a high-rise on Manhattan's upper
east side.

Video from the scene shows at least three apartments in the high
rise fully engulfed in flames.

[Edited 2006-10-11 20:57:04]

User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14148 times:

CBS NY: CBS-2 News has learned a small plane has crashed into an apartment building at 72nd and York. Several apartments are completely engulfed in flames.

User currently offlineJetBlueNYFL From United States of America, joined May 2006, 274 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14149 times:

It's on every channel...CNBC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Some are reporting a chopper and some are reporting a small plane.


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14149 times:
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A Cessna On the upper east side, at E72nd St. 5 or 6 apartments engulfed in flames. That must suck

[Edited 2006-10-11 21:01:15]


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14098 times:

No links yet, watching MSNBC

Some say it was Cessna but now looking like a Chopper
Manhattan Upper East Side
500 block East 72nd Street



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User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14097 times:

I've heard it was a Cessna that hit a building around east 72nd St

User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14102 times:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15223650/

More to come...


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14104 times:

"Live Webcast": http://wcbstv.com/

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14099 times:

NEW YORK - An aircraft crashed into a high-rise apartment building on Manhattan's Upper East Side in New York City on Thursday, NBC News reported. There were conflicting reports about whether it was an airplane or a chopper.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15223650/


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13990 times:

Building is still on fire

Helipad is at 59th street and river



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User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13986 times:

on CNN, they just said that the FAA said it was a small gen-av aircraft.

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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13983 times:

Just posted on Drudge, says it was a helicopter, story still developing:

http://www.drudgereport.com/



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User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13983 times:

Relatives in New York City are saying it was near to the Cornell-Weill Medical Centre. In addition they said that they are hearing that the plane headed downward in direction if building.

Bloody, I hope this was an accident!


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13983 times:

Possible helicoptor, FAA says could be small general aircraft. Near east side Manhattan heliport. Hit building at 15th/16th floor of about a 25-30-story building. Fire on those 2-3 levels engulfing across several floors. Building hit 525 E. 76th Street, NYC, near York Avenue, near East River. Confirmed by FAA as a small plane or a helicoptor, possibly doing photo work. Some debris of a/c landed on E. 76th Street. No info as to casualties on the a/c or in the building or street, but now sign of any any casualties in building or street. Building fnear Hospital for Special Surgery and some apartments in building may for as to that hospital. Fire Department has reached the apartment and getting the fire under control. Weather cool, some haze/fog/mist.
Not believed to be any terror attack - only an accident.

[Edited 2006-10-11 21:04:33]

User currently offlineAirMailer From United States of America, joined May 2006, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13880 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 10):
Building is still on fire

Helipad is at 59th street and river

From what I see on FoxNews only a few appartments on fire (thankfully).

and FoxNews says it's a helicopter, but AP says it's a small plane.

I can see the water shooting out of the building (obviously from the FDNY Fire Fighters on the scene).


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13882 times:

Yep, AP saying it was fixed wing, FDNY tells Fox News it was a Helicopter.


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User currently offlinePiff From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13885 times:

BBC is reporting a small plane at the moment. No link yet. Anyone in NYC can confirm?

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13709 times:

Nope, no confirmation. The building was struck around the 20th floor so figure 250 feet of altitude or so. Unless it was intentional, helicopter at 250 feet sounds more reasonable.


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13721 times:
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User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13711 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6042306.stm

BBC link


User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13548 times:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/11/national/main2082292.shtml

CBS link


User currently offlinePiff From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13377 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 18):
Unless it was intentional, helicopter at 250 feet sounds more reasonable.

Yeah, that's got to be the worry in this situation. I hope it was an accident.


User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13380 times:

Relatives from New York have called back, the building involved was called the Bel Air building and houses residents, post operative high profile clientele, and is near to Sothebys.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13188 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash.ap/index.html

It's nowhere near Rockefeller Center though.

Could be a case of an engine failure with nowhere to land the plane (if it was a plane).

-Mir



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25 BoeingOnFinal : Very likely a helicopter, according to BBC World.
26 DTW757 : CNN reporting no arriving traffic to LGA. No flights can depart anywhere for LaGuardia and all flights going there are either holding or have been div
27 Flyinryan99 : Does this coincide with the "Aircraft Incident" at LGA right now? LGA is currently groundstopped.
28 ZRHnerd : BBC now reporting it was a Helicopter. terror-relation close to none.
29 Post contains links Cumulus : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6042306.stm
30 DTW757 : CNN now reports it is confirmed a small fixed wing airplane.
31 71Zulu : Fox News says 2 confirmed killed and people trapped in the building. FAA confirms it was a fixed wing aircraft.
32 Falcon84 : LGA is in a ground-stop right now due to this incident. At least the first tier for LGA is in a ground-stop. And just found out at least the 2nd tier,
33 AirMailer : FoxNews: 'FDNY 2 people dead; a number of people are trapped; it's a 3 alarm fire'... FAA: 'OFFICIAL, IT WAS A FIXED WING AIRCRAFT.'
34 Post contains images Ptharris : Man.. I hate it when people do this. It's like knocking and running just to be the first. Uh oh... someone going to drop the T-word??? I'm surprised
35 N844AA : I'm on the Upper West Side, and I just went to the top of my building to see if I could see anything -- nothing from the crash, but at least half a do
36 AirMailer : Keep in mind that some people are reading this post from their office with no access to a television; or are reading it from somewhere in the world w
37 Indio66 : CBS news is confirming that it was a helicopter.
38 Piff : I did try and stay clear from that word. It'll help when we get proper confirmation on whether it was a helicopter or not. Can't understand why LGA w
39 71Zulu : Mine was actually second Can we combine this thread into the one by UAL747?
40 Irobertson : CNN just reporting that it definitely was NOT a helicopter, according to the FAA it was "a small general aviation aircraft".
41 Sevenair : Visibility showing 8SM, OVC @ 1500.
42 Indio66 : Now CBS is indicating that it was a fixed wing.
43 Ordpia : CNN is reporting that "Combat Air patrols" are being conducted over various areas, no specific areas given but there hinting at the major cities, at t
44 QFSYD744 : The Police per the reports are now saying "Fixed Wing" - "Small Aircraft"
45 Post contains links Pilotfox : Check out the arrivals into LGA, http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KLGA They have all been put into holding patterns.
46 LTBEWR : Latest word: Small fixed wing aircraft our of Teterboro, NJ airport. Probably just doing a 'sightseeing' run. Was in the 'exclusion zone' where small
47 AirTranTUS : They are now continuing on.
48 Flyingrph : MSNBC just reported the a/c to be a SR20 They have a bunch of bumbeling idiots who are 'experts'...please Kevin
49 Piercey : CLE is back on, and I thought I heard LGA is back as well. Plane took off from Teterboro (sp) according to CNN.
50 CcrlR : They are saying from CNN it may be a NY Yankees player(who is a pilot). mabye a Cirrus SR since they saying that it has a parachute and Miles OBrien h
51 FiveMileFinal : ESPN's saying that it's Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle.
52 ATCGOD : It's confirmed. "Cory Lidle dies in plane crash in NYC", according to ESPN.
53 EridanMan : What were the weather conditions?
54 Adria : It's a SR22...those Cirrus aircraft should only be permitted to those who fly at least 100 hours a year on such an aircraft.
55 Mir : I gave the LGA ASOS a call an hour or so ago and the visibility was fine (9 miles), but the ceilings were about 2,000. Still VFR weather, but less th
56 EridanMan : I'm having a really hard time seeing how this was an accident if the weather was VFR (hell, even if it was IMC...)
57 Starlionblue : Why? Can't something be wrong with the plane? Or what about distraction, seizures, other human factors.
58 EridanMan : Any accident narrative yet? about the only way I can think this was an accident was VFR into IMC...
59 Mir : Plenty of accidents happen in good weather. They generally occur because of mechanical problems, and the pilot's inability to deal with those problem
60 2H4 : On what factors specific to the SR22 do you base this statement? 2H4
61 Ward86IND : I've seen enough of these damn Cirruses going down. One in Indy just a few weeks ago.
62 EridanMan : Very true... I know I'm just speculating... I guess we'll know when we know...
63 Jpax : Insurance goes up yet again for Cirrus owners... Bad week for the Yankees, too. RIP Cory and passenger(?)
64 OPNLguy : Here's what they were at TEB, EWR, LGA, and JFK for the last 6 hours. I saw another report that indicated Lidle was "learning to fly" or had only ver
65 Riyadhnurse : WABC News 7 reported , Lindle flying less than a year? Are there not very strict "no fly" FAA restrictions in & around Manhatan and the rest of NYC? T
66 DTW757 : Cory Lidle had a private pilot airplane single engine land rating issued 02/09/2006
67 Mir : Just your standard Class B airspace. You need a clearance to fly in there, but there are areas underneath the Class B where VFR flight is unrestricte
68 Palladium : I dont understand this....I thought there is NO FLY restriction in NYC. Why still plane allowed to enter NYC skyline.
69 Peteg913 : Not at all...how could this work with 3 major airports there?
70 Post contains links OPNLguy : The accident aircraft shows up on Passur... http://www4.passur.com/jfk.html Use the 20 mile scale, and put start the time at 1303. Make sure you use t
71 AirFrance : Also rumors say that a Yankees relieve pitcher was in the plane when it crashed into the highrise.Still very sketchy info about this.
72 OPNLguy : Someone other than Cory Lidle that's already been mentioned?
73 Mir : That plane goes way too far down the East River. What you're seeing is probably the Hamptons-NYC seaplane service (done by a Caravan on floats if mem
74 Mir : This has been confirmed - Corey Lidle was on board. -Mir
75 Starlionblue : As Peteg913 mentions, this is not the case. There are three major airports in the area to start with. Closing off the area would be impractical and i
76 OPNLguy : New one on me.... Wonder what they charge?
77 Mir : More than I care to know. EDIT: $345 one-way, according to their website. But they don't fly on Wednesdays, so it wasn't one of them. But that plane
78 Cityguy : and the scumbag personal injury lawyers are already on TV saying it is a "defect with the plane" nothing is know yet and already posturing for news an
79 Comorin : As the a.netter probably closest to the accident scene ( I live 3 blocks away), I don't have much to add except that there were no low clouds or fog a
80 Adria : The SR20/22 is a fantastic aircraft but not forgiving. It's not like a Cessna where you could sit in after not flying for years and everything would
81 DILF : OK, so why not combine this with the other identical post on this same subject?
82 2H4 : Hmm. Interesting perception. I agree that it is less forgiving than a 172, but only very marginally so. While a bit more particular than, say, a 172
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