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CO And Their 2007 Announcements.  
User currently offlineDiesel33 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16041 times:

By this time in the past two years they had announced one or two destinations already. DL and NW seem to have announced or are ready to announce their respective plans for the summer of 2007.

Does anyone know when CO is planning to announce their route expansion (if any) for 2007? Also, any ideas as to which cities as well?

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User currently offlineARGinLON From Vatican City, joined Jun 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15995 times:

I don't think anything very exciting happen unless the China rights are not granted to CO.

User currently offlineCOERJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15973 times:

So far all that has been officially anounced is CLE-CDG (Which will be in 2008 for some reason) and EWR-PVG (Only if rights are granted)

User currently offlineShakeZulaNJ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15912 times:

Quoting COERJ (Reply 2):
So far all that has been officially anounced is CLE-CDG (Which will be in 2008 for some reason) and EWR-PVG (Only if rights are granted)

Continental is campaigning very heavily for that route. What are the odds they will get it?


User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15854 times:

Quoting Diesel33 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know when CO is planning to announce their route expansion (if any) for 2007? Also, any ideas as to which cities as well?

Isnt Continental Airlines nearly maxed out on equipment that they can use to Europe?


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15703 times:

Quoting QFSYD744 (Reply 4):
Isnt Continental Airlines nearly maxed out on equipment that they can use to Europe?

They have 41 757s equipped with Winglets and Business First Interiors, so they can launch plenty more Trans-Atlantic 757 routes. They have plenty of 737-800s and 737-900ERs on order and an existing fleet of 737-900s and 757-300s to take over domestic flying for the 757-200s.



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User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 15676 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
They have 41 757s equipped with Winglets and Business First Interiors, so they can launch plenty more Trans-Atlantic 757 routes.

So could we see any of the following:

EWR-TRN
EWR-LYS
EWR-MUC
EWR-LUX
EWR-ORK (seasonal)
EWR-AGP (seasonal)
EWR-SVQ (seasonal)
EWR-FAO (seasonal)

??? Thinking way outside of the box of course!  Smile


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 15566 times:

CO's only "seasonal" Trans-Atlantic route is CLE-LGW, CO does not operate routes that cannot be sustained year round.

If I were to make a 757 list it would be this;

Lyon, Marseille, Toulouse, Nice, Bordeaux, Nantes, Stuttgart, Munich, Prague, Helsinki, Newcastle, Basel.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15363 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
Lyon, Marseille, Toulouse, Nice, Bordeaux, Nantes, Stuttgart, Munich, Prague, Helsinki, Newcastle, Basel.

You think the 757 could make it to HEL, MUC and PRG?



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15107 times:

Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 1):
I don't think anything very exciting happen unless the China rights are not granted to CO.

If they don't get China, what would they do with the 777 that would be used?

ICN? Hmmm.
Non-stop India?
Finnally Africa?



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User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15058 times:

Ahh... First time posting here. I've waited so long to contribute.  cloudnine 

Anyways. I kinda wish Continental would have more service additions out here in the Pacific. It'd have been interesting if they could apply for service to China from Guam even though frequency might not be daily and the aircraft might be no larger than the 738s out here. I seriously wish Continental could at least return to Noumea. If not, maybe return back to Seoul? I figure if Korean Air can operate an early morning 773/744 from here on a daily basis, the Micronesian division should be able to hold with at least a 738 on five frequencies each week.

Oh well... The military is going to start a build-up here so it's probably inevitable that we'll see some extra flights to support the influx. Maybe they'll consider keeping some of their 762s for the additional service here?  crossfingers 



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User currently offlineMptpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15045 times:

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 8):
You think the 757 could make it to HEL, MUC and PRG?

They do use their B752 for Oslo, but have to limit the load however. I am not crazy about being in a narrow body for that long. I did once their BRS route, and was not happy. The FAs were not excited either....

Anybody have had similar experience?


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3965 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15007 times:

I believe that CO has a smallish operation somewhere in the US south does it not? If so, any new int'l ops from there?

Thomas



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User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14974 times:

Airliner World magazine had an article(which was posted here on a.net) about a second major airline starting service to Istanbul, if they do make an announcement we'll see if taht major is CO.


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14952 times:

Hi!

I flew CO last July from LIS to BOG via EWR, I flew 752's from LIS to EWR and back, and 737-700 from EWR to BOG. Seriously I CANNOT say that it was bad, it was not the best but it was not the worst!!! My flights from LIS and to LIS were quite OK, but there's something that I cannot help, that's my cultural background.....no wine with my meals was just a big frustration!!! I fully understand that US airlines have a policy regarding that but...please it should be really nice the way they could bond with other cultures...regarding Portugal we grew up with wine, we appreciate wine, we love wine, etc. etc..... I'm sure that CO could increase their "income" if they would understand portuguese culture...I'm positively sure that if CO would go to ANY portuguese wineries and ask for a special deal regarding portuguese wines in their flights from LIS to EWR these wineries will give ANYTHING to suport that!!!! This is pure marketing!!!
But beside that I had a great time flying CO! BUT....I still hope they upgrade ONE DAY from the 752 to a wide body airplane...762 or the 787!!!
Regards and I wish the best for CO!


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14906 times:

The 757 allows CO to offer nonstop service to Cities that would otherwise not get nonstop service from the US, such as Oslo, Bristol, Cologne etc..

BTW..

Im flying EWR-BCN in two-three weeks on a CO 757, I'll post a trip report.

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 12):
I believe that CO has a smallish operation somewhere in the US south does it not? If so, any new int'l ops from there?

I think I've heard of that place, it's named Houston after Houston street in Manhattan right Wink



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User currently offlinePanAm747LHR From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14886 times:

There has also been talk of adding a 3rd EWR-CDG flight.
I won't believe any of it though until I see it on the departures board at EWR!

Nick


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14855 times:

I think you will see domestic build-up in CLE for 2007, and maybe another international destination for 2008, probably AMS...EWR is very congested, so CLE will get the overflow.


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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4019 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14809 times:
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Quoting Centrair (Reply 9):
If they don't get China, what would they do with the 777 that would be used?

There was a post on a.net about this a while back, but I couln't find it, so I'll have to go by memory, which is essentially that one frame will be used to upgrade EWR BRU to 777 service and the other for a similar upgrade on an Italian route. So the question becomes, what of the 767s used on those routes ? Will they be used to upgrade existing 757 services or launch new flights ?



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1572 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14562 times:

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 13):
Airliner World magazine had an article(which was posted here on a.net) about a second major airline starting service to Istanbul,

"Now it's Istanbul, now Constantinople, now it's Istanbul, now Constantinople, now it's Istanbul..."

Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 18):
So the question becomes, what of the 767s used on those routes ? Will they be used to upgrade existing 757 services or launch new flights ?

Probably a mix of the two.



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User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14555 times:

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 12):
I believe that CO has a smallish operation somewhere in the US south does it not? If so, any new int'l ops from there?

Continental used to have a hub at GSO, but it was dismantled in the mid-90s. Is that what you were thinking of?



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1572 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14532 times:

Quoting N844AA (Reply 20):
Continental used to have a hub at GSO, but it was dismantled in the mid-90s.

It sprung up and was dismantled within about 5 years.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
I think I've heard of that place, it's named Houston after Houston street in Manhattan right

But pronounced slightly different! Yeah Houston, IAH like the second largest HUB city for a US airline with some 750+ departures a day, behind only ATL and DL....yes you DFW lovers AA is now a very close 3rd on the list.

Love to see MXP and FCO from IAH soon.

Quoting ThePalauan (Reply 10):
Ahh... First time posting here

Welcome to A.net

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
They have 41 757s equipped with Winglets

I don't think all of the 200's have the wingles installed yet, saw a couple last week that didn't, but I am sure some of the CO folsk on here or our pal from MCO will know the answer!  Smile



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14512 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 18):
There was a post on a.net about this a while back, but I couln't find it, so I'll have to go by memory, which is essentially that one frame will be used to upgrade EWR BRU to 777 service and the other for a similar upgrade on an Italian route. So the question becomes, what of the 767s used on those routes ? Will they be used to upgrade existing 757 services or launch new flights ?

Likely that the 764's that currently service those routes will upgrade some current 762 flights, and then the 762s will be used to launch newer routes that the 752 doesn't have the legs for. One that is being discussed is EWR-BSL because of the very heavy pharma industries in both locations. Also there is the continued rumor of Moscow service that might see the light of day with a freed up 762.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14486 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
If I were to make a 757 list it would be this;

Lyon, Marseille, Toulouse, Nice, Bordeaux, Nantes, Stuttgart, Munich, Prague, Helsinki, Newcastle, Basel

what about flights to NUE ?



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25 Klwright69 : Oh that was hysterical! I wonder how many people actually got that. I love Turkey by the way! I have heard EZE and GRU need equipment upgrdades. Back
26 Lemurs : The problem with that is that both the EZE and GRU flights have very long layovers for the airframe...a lot of sitting time for a widebody. I don't t
27 UAXDXer : You are right not all 757-200 have winglets yet... they will by years end though.
28 Piercey : They can't get the plane fast enough, as it would require a winglet equiped 757, and the first one for new and not expanded service will be around th
29 Avianca : they operated the route years ago in the 90`s with DC10 and even sometimes with the good old 747.... as I understand the flights had good loads but m
30 CALMSP : STT757, you should make your trip on the one day we are flying hte 767-400 to BCN..........to make it a little more comfortable!
31 Dampfnudel : Why is the layover at GRU so long ? My cousin was wondering about that with me once since he flies that route about every 4 months. A late evening ar
32 Gokmengs : Thats the one I was suspecting all along also, AA has been codesharing with TK for a long time and should have enough data to evaluate the route. IST
33 Post contains images STT757 : I saw that, I think the reason why BCN is getting the 767-400 that day is the same reason we are going to BCN. Cruise. We are going on our honeymoon,
34 CLE757 : I dont think its the plane CO is waiting for, I think its the city of CLE that needs to expand/replace the customs facility.
35 Post contains images Falcon84 : We don't agree on much, man, but we're 100% in agreement on that. The message to the city was simple: upgrade customs, and you get that flight in '08
36 Thomasphoto60 : Na, I was commenting in a not-so-subtle manner at the lack of references to IAH in these type of threads. Thomas
37 Ikramerica : Munich, Prague and Nice or Lyon would be 3 good bets, but all are on the fringe of the 752 range. The one I flew on yesterday didn't. One of the olde
38 Post contains images N844AA : Y'know, I like to think I would have figured that out, except that because AA has their operation at RDU with limited international service, it someh
39 Iluv747400 : FYI, the lyrics go: "It's Istanbul NOT Constantinople, now it's Istanbul NOT Constantinople..." For those of you that didn't get the reference, they'
40 Thomasphoto60 : Actually this song goes back to the 20s, and in 1953 it was a hit by the 'Four Lads'. Thomas
41 Legacytravel : Welcome glad you decided to pop your cherry here. Enjoy the forums Mark in MKE
42 Style : Word on the street is that CO's 2007 expansion out of EWR is going to have a sprinkle of new France destinations.
43 Max Q : We do have 41 752's. However they are not all equipped with winglets yet. I flew one the other day without.
44 Piercey : ahh... forgot about that one. But would 18 months be enough time?
45 Avianca : any word about new SouthAmerican flights from EWR either IAH? (MDE, MAR,) etc...? regards
46 Post contains images Falcon84 : Oh, I think it will be.
47 COERJ : The reservation system shows the second daily EWR-CDG flight loosing the 752, and gaining the 762 this summer. Anybody know where its coming from?
48 CALMSP : this flight is just like this past summers, 3 days a week the 2nd flight is a 757, the other 4 days it is a 762.........so nothing new.
49 Beaucaire : In other German forums the opinion is that NUE would fill a 757 to EWR or ATL- problem is that EWR-NUE is about max.range for a 757 while ATL-NUE wou
50 CLE757 : Falcon, I think we agree on more then you think. Anyways I think CO would like to add more international flights from CLE (like AMS) but it all depen
51 Klwright69 : Is there a way CO could do any adaptations to the 757's to expand the range slightly? I think WAW would be a great CO 757 city, but the range is not t
52 CY319 : I wouldnt be surprised to see them on a EWR-ATH route.
53 STT757 : A couple of days this month (October) CO has switched the aircraft on the Madrid and Barcelona flights, for 2-4 days this month CO has a 767-400 flyi
54 Dutchjet : Look for CO to announce in the last weeks of 2006 or early 2007.....some predicitons: EWR-HEL: to complete Scandavia. EWR-STR: the next German destina
55 Avianca : I have no doubt NUE could fill a daily 757, as mentioned in NUE are located a lot of export-oriented companies. Alone Siemens has many travelleres ev
56 STT757 : It's going to be exciting when the 787s arrive, some possible new route parings like.. EWR- Taipei, Osaka, Seoul, JNB, Nagoya IAH- Beijing, Dubai, Kuw
57 CALMSP : well, the next European destination has already been guessed by some on here!! EZE, will be upgrading to a 777 a couple of times the rest of the year.
58 Dutchjet : The 764s are not going anywhere, that is certain. The big question is the 762s.....CO has 20 787s on firm order, will the ten 762s be phased out as t
59 STT757 : Just wild speculation on my part: How about CO configure the 767-200s in an all BusinessFirst configuration, put half of them on routes out of IAH to
60 Humberside : That seems a bit late to be launching new long haul routes for next summer, especially when DL and NW have launched their new transatlantic routes th
61 Dutchjet : Its not CO's niche, but interesting. Yes and no........while NW and DL have announced, they are quite early, I also dont think that either NW or DL i
62 WorldTraveler : Tour operator contracts will be signed in the next couple weeks. That is why airlines announce this early. It is also why DL has already upgraded ATL-
63 DLBOIFIN : This is a valid question that I still have not found an answer. As AY can operate HEL-YYZ on their 757 with 227 seats, I could imagine that CO with w
64 Klwright69 : Nonsense. We just finished this summer a couple of weeks ago oficially! Again, predictions for 07 1 or 2 additional Scandic cities (CO's found their
65 Klwright69 : Oh and I forgot, CO would do well if it added a seasonal 757 to the Iberian peninsula to complement the nonstops. It can foresee a loop EWR-LIS-BCN-EW
66 Dutchjet : I am personally very curious to see if CO takes a chance with Malaga and/or Mallorca.......the two Spanish destinations that CO filed papers for a co
67 Klwright69 : Yes I remember this flight too. But mine was a 747 classic! It was filled to the gills. I think a southern Spanish destination might work out for CO.
68 Dutchjet : I gotta disagree here........CO tends to shy away from multi-stop and loop flights since it means multi-stop flights for passengers travelling beyond
69 Ikramerica : Anyone think CO might swap the HAM flight to NUE if EK kills them? They've announced June routes in the spring! DL and NW are just way early because
70 Mbm3 : The 73G could make a variety of routes in Europe, but they would not be able to support the valuable business traveler who is willing to spend thousa
71 Avianca : where is the difference of a 757 to an 737? both narrowbody aircrafts
72 WorldTraveler : All of this talk about CO adding a bunch of transatlantic flights misses the point that CO is trying to grow its domestic system in order to meet comp
73 STT757 : By the end of the year all 41 of CO's 757s will be equipped with Winglets and Business First Interiors, it's obvious they are adding more Trans-Atlan
74 IAHcsr : All 41 752's are now BF and all but six (soon to be five) have Winglets.
75 Piercey : Too long of a turnaround time. They need those planes in Asia. All will happen eventually, and I'll go as far as to say EWR-HEL would get upgraded to
76 David : Didn't they do this for years with the 757's, why would this be any more difficult?
77 Cslusarc : What do you guys think of CO flying 757s to the following 11 metropolitan areas in Europe: #21 Stuttgart Region (STR - Stuttart Airport), pop: 2.7 mil
78 Drerx7 : I doubt you'll see CO fly the 73G across the pond because I don't think that the numbers would work out well unless the aircraft was outfitted in an a
79 Mbm3 : The 757 fleet is much larger than the 737-700 fleet and thus the economics and operations of a subfleet were bottom line friendly. CO ordered the 739
80 Ikramerica : I was under the impression that the canary route in question are not business routes by any means. I was thinking they might add a once weekly 73G fl
81 Post contains images Ikramerica : First, who's talking about a subfleet of 73Gs in BF? They fly 73Gs internationally to central america in normal F/Y configuration. Second, the 73G fl
82 MCOflyer : I flew on a 752 that didn't have winglets from SAN-IAH. That plane continued to San Jose, Costa Rica. According to Airways Nov issue, CO has the foll
83 IAHcsr : The order may say '700' now, but the planned reality is for '800/900' when they start to roll off the assembly line in '08.
84 Panamair : Isn't there an IATA scheduling conference in November where CO's summer 2007 plans would already be apparent, even though not all the routes/frequenc
85 Dutchjet : Couple of comments: While we have learned to never say never, its extremely unlikey that CO will ever send the 737 across the Atlantic.....its simply
86 Humberside : I dont see how its nonsense. Look at how many long haul routes have already been announced and are on sale already for next summer. And how many long
87 STT757 : The 737-900ERs are to replace 757-200s on Trans-Continental routes, the Business First 757s only have 16 First class seats. The 737-900ERs will have
88 Mbm3 : Great point! I, however, was just repeating what was told to me by a member of the senior management team. Personally, I think it would only make sen
89 MasseyBrown : The IATA Summer '07 conference begins November 11th. Schedules are normally submitted three weeks prior to the conference, at which time they are con
90 Ikramerica : Well, they're not easy to get to from the USA. Nor are the azores. I would agree, especially since they only have 2 738s remaining to be delivered. B
91 Dutchjet : The 739ERs are logical choices to replace the 752s on domestic runs.....look for the twelve 739ERs to be assigned (almost) exclusively to EWR-LAX/SFO
92 Post contains images MasseyBrown : During CO's recent investors' conference (available for replay at their website) the VP for aircraft emphasized that the 73G orders or options were g
93 WorldTraveler : just one point of clarification: how many 57s does CO have that are currently flying predominantly domestic schedules?
94 LipeGIG : Agree with EZE. GIG in fact need to receive a dedicated CO IAH non-stop flight. The high-yield market Brazil-US use to travel by night and there are
95 B707Stu : Here's my opinion on the above... LYS - yep, seasonally only MUC - yep LUX - nope ORK - nope AGP - Yep, Big Yep SVQ - Nope FAO - Nope AGP is the big
96 Dutchjet : A fair question to which there is no complete answer.....CO has 41 752s, all now have BF interiors and soon all will have winglets (other upgrades su
97 Nuggetsyl : I got word the other day that we will fly to ath if we do not get china. I got this from a solid source. I know everyone is now going to jump on me sa
98 787KQ : Is this certain? In the past the 757's to the Caribbean and northern South America did not have business first interiors. Thus, for real business cla
99 B737900er : Don't forget the 757-300. Which with the exception of SDQ and sometimes STI, AUA, and SJD are predominantly domestic
100 Dutchjet : Yep - all 752s now have BF seating. I know what you are talking about, however....around 2002 (after the entire 762/764 fleet was delivered) CO actua
101 B737900er : Do you think LIM, SJO, and UIO will convert to a 737-900er. Freeing up more 757-200's?
102 Nuggetsyl : How many of the 757 have avod and winglets?
103 Dutchjet : Just a guess..........no. As stated above, most seem to think that the 739ERs will be flying EWR-West Coast transcons at the outset.
104 STT757 : Over the next two years CO will most likely move almost all 757-200 flights to EWR from IAH , the 737-900s, 737-900ERs and 757-300s will take over th
105 STT757 : CO will continue to add more Trans-Atlantic 757-200 flights from EWR (and some from CLE) to Western Europe for 2007 and 2008, by 2009 they will have r
106 Ikramerica : Me too. There is no way they will only take 2 more 738s. I see mostly 738s and more 739ERs. But they may still take 73Gs as well. When they initially
107 Gkirk : Southwest Scotland, Cumbria, Yorkshire also.
108 Dutchjet : Intersting comment. But, I have been hearing that 739ERs are going to be assigned to EWR transcons.......it will be interesting to see what happens i
109 MasseyBrown : I wondered to myself if the International BF section of the 752s would be CO's answer to the upgraded premium cabins on UA's 757s for EWR transcons.
110 Mbm3 : I agree - 16 premium seats are not enough on routes that always seem to sell out F. It is next to impossible to get upgrades on the transcons as CO s
111 CALMSP : and this is why we went back to 24 F seats on the 757-300..........and also adding seats up front on our 737-800/900 fleets.
112 STT757 : Having flown EWR-SFO last Summer I can see first hand the difficulty of frequent flyers trying to upgrade on CO's Trans-Con flights. Our (Fiancee and
113 Boeingguy1 : then pay the freaking 5 euro and stop whining- jesus, mary and joseph!
114 Chris1976LBA : EWR - MAN is already double daily, anyone expecting CLE-MAN to be started anytime soon. CLE-LGW is already in existence (is this still seasonal?), su
115 Dutchjet : CLE-LGW is seasonal but is expected to go year round for the Winter 2007/8 timetable, if not then, the following year. Expect 5 times per week winter
116 MasseyBrown : It won't affect the schedule for a while, but CO has bumped up the 787 number again. According to the latest 10-Q, it's 20 orders and 20 options, for
117 STT757 : It is indeed, they had 20 firm plus 10 options (30). Now they have 20 firm and 20 options, good news!
118 Dutchjet : Yep, 10 new options......and from what I am hearing, the 10 newly optioned airplanes will be the ones that will replace the 762s, provided that fuel
119 Post contains images Falcon84 : And those three routes are-probably-the extent of CO's Trans-Atlantic expansion in/out of CLE. COO Jeff Smisek has said CO is intent on a significant
120 DZ09 : I am surprised how greatly underseved other parts of France are. Only two flights (AF and DL) go to Nice with the rest all going to CDG. Surely other
121 Post contains images MasseyBrown : The skeds show 53 mainline flights for the Christmas season. That's more than they've operated in several years. How about the rumor that CLE gates C
122 STT757 : On the Express and Connection front Q-200s and Q-400s have a tremendous amount of potential at CLE to be realized. With regards to mainline flights t
123 Post contains images Mbm3 : Well, this would just about be the only way to get customs in C without major construction. As for the tower, well, hmmm, maybe there is another loca
124 Falcon84 : Latest rumor I heard had it over by NASA. Don't know if that'll work, but that's the rumor. And I think you need more than C-1 and C-2 for customs. I
125 MCOflyer : I think CO will aquire more than 4 753's. Dutchjet, I agree with you when you say CO is aquireing those a/c. CO will get their hands on them. I must a
126 Ikramerica : I actually think it's more likely to be 787-10. I think 788 and 789 are too close for an airline like CO. AA used to serve Lyons, and other cities we
127 CAL : RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT????????? Where did you hear this. I dont think the 737-500 has been approved for winglets by the faa......
128 MCOflyer : I think he meant 733. MCOflyer
129 MasseyBrown : CO quarterly earnings conference stated CO will install winglets on some 733's and 735's. The call is available for replay on the CO website under In
130 Mbm3 : Having the new tower on the west side of the field makes sense to me, but I am curious to see how CLE & CO expand the customs facility when there isn
131 Post contains links STT757 : I got it from CO's recent quarterly report: http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...apps/vendors/default.aspx?i=PRNEWS
132 CAL : Thank you STT757, I hadn't heard about these winglets thanks for the info. Very interesting.
133 Chris1976LBA : They also look pretty cool too !
134 Brilondon : Correct me if I am wrong but is not Huston in the US south and isn't that their headquarters?
135 Post contains images Falcon84 : Unless you live in Victoria, Texas, Houston is definitely in the South , and yes, it is our headquarters.
136 Post contains images Lemurs : ...and if you live in Victoria, Houston is on the wrong side of the dividing line between Real Texas and where all those damn Yanks are.
137 N844AA : I don't want to start a whole new thread to accomodate my uninformed musing, so let me post this in here. Am I way off base in thinking that CO would
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