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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

What do you guys think about MEA's fleet? I think they need to get some more planes. They only have 9 planes total.

3 A330-300
6 A321-200

I would like them to get some A340 and maybe some 767's. They also need to make some routes to the US.

BEY-JFK
BEY-BOS

Maybe?

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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3738 times:

They use to have BEY-JFK with a 747 if I am not mistaken.

[Edited 2006-10-12 03:07:11]

User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

They are not allowed to fly to the US.

User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3678 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 2):
They are not allowed to fly to the US.

Why not? Other Middle Eastern airlines do like Emirates, Saudi Airlines, and Egypt Air.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 3):
Why not? Other Middle Eastern airlines do like Emirates, Saudi Airlines, and Egypt Air.

Egypt, U.A.E, Saudi Arabia are on the "good pupils" list.
Lebanon is not.

Quoting MEACEDAR (Thread starter):
I would like them to get some A340 and maybe some 767's

What for ? to display at BEY airport ?
If ever they want to expand, which is quite uncertain considering the political situation in Lebanon, they would need more A321 and maybe A319/A320 for the European & Middle East network.
And a fleet of Regional Jets for the local traffic to AMM, DAM, CAI, ALP, SSH, ALY, etc ...


User currently offlineAFC_Ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

They've got A330-200s not -300s.


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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):
What for ? to display at BEY airport ?

for destinations like YUL YYZ SIN BKK TYO LOS ACC DKR SAO BUE


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3540 times:

From reports and sources, MEA has no interest in the A340. Currently, they would like to see few more A330-200s in the fleet as their wide-body choice.

The wide-body future is being planned around the 787 and A350.

The A340-500 or -600 could be brought in only as temporary solution for ultra-long flights if there were the need.


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):
Egypt, U.A.E, Saudi Arabia are on the "good pupils" list

Salut FlySSC ! What you said make me  rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):
What for ? to display at BEY airport ?

Like the Kurdistan airplane for example ?

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):
more A321 and maybe A319/A320 for the European & Middle East network

I bellieve that the A320 is the most suitable airplane for MEA for now
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

MEA's fleet is efficient for the job they need and very well appointed for the passengers we all are. Yes, I'd like to see them expand but - like any airline of their size - I don't think they should multiply types in their fleet.

Sure, an A330-300 would be acceptable for higher capacity to CDG and A318/319/320/321s would be welcome for lighter destinations. Maybe a regional jet would allow frequent flying in and out (mini hub & spoke) of nearby destinations (AMM, LCA, CAI) and free up the current longer legged fleet for reasoned expansion while allowing long thin routes during the day.

In any case, I would guess for now that MEA's target is to be in the black this year without having to take much aggressive measures. Then, in light of the stabilization that still has to take place in the country (animozity, weapons, Shebaa) and associated perspectives, they may think again at more flying.

Ban or no ban, MEA will be allowed to fly to the US - it's a matter of time. Yet I don't see them open up many routes and the A330-200 may very well be sufficient for BEY-JFK (9,000 km). A daily flight between the two cities would already be an achievement and requires nearly 2 frames.

Besides to CDG, MEA's problem is frequency and I think that's what they have to target first and foremost. Building/obtaining daily at LHR (332) and at FRA (321) is a must, having the rest of the network as well, with the exception of the African routes.

So in my optimistic view there fleet in 5 years would be like:

- 5-6 A330s (the 3 current 200s and 3 new ones whether 200s, 300s or a mix)
- 6 A321s as present
- 3-6 regional jets/A318 or A319/320s

New destinations could include: ALG, AMS, CMN, JFK, TIP, TUN. And more frequencies to existing destinations.

Long live Cedarjet!



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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 6):
for destinations like YUL YYZ SIN BKK TYO LOS ACC DKR SAO BUE

Hello ME AVN FAN !
You are asking a lot from MEA ,if this would be possible specially SAO and BUE,it would make my dream come true.Mais domâge the reality is different, at least for now
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):
Egypt, U.A.E, Saudi Arabia are on the "good pupils" list.

 checkmark  checkmark  checkmark  That is so true  Smile



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3392 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 6):
for destinations like YUL YYZ SIN BKK TYO LOS ACC DKR SAO BUE

Oh sure !!! and JNB, MEX, GIG, CCS, BOG, BOM, DEL, KIX, TPE, SYD, LAX, SFO.

They could do just like Emirates... but MEA is not Emirates, and BEY is not DXB.
Long Haul destinations for MEA are just viable in A.Netter 's dreams.
At least for the moment, and certainly not before the conflicts about Palestine is solved ... which means quite another few years.


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3376 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 10):
New destinations could include: ALG, AMS, CMN, JFK, TIP, TUN. And more frequencies to existing destinations.

I think every destination listed in the quote should be added by MEA. Even though some destinations listed above are already offered by some other airlines, MEA can do the different timing. For example, an KLM flight that departs to AMS leaves at 2:00 AM is already offered. MEA can depart to AMS that leaves in the afternoon or possibly evening.

AMS-BEY-AMS OFFERED BY KLM
ALG-BEY-ALG OFFERED BY AIR ALGERIE
TUN-BEY-TUN OFFERED BY AIR TUNIS ( i think there is already 2 flights daily on this route)

I would love to see MEA start to fly to JFK, EWR, LAX, YYZ, BOS.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3336 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 13):
KLM flight that departs to AMS leaves at 2:00 AM is already offered



Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 13):
AMS-BEY-AMS OFFERED BY KLM

KLM is about to stop serving both BEY & DAM.
Flights leaving BEY at 2:00AM to AMS or CDG are/were studied to arrive early in the European Hubs of AF-KL so that they offer the widest choice of connections to the world.


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 12):
Oh sure !!! and JNB, MEX, GIG, CCS, BOG, BOM, DEL, KIX, TPE, SYD, LAX, SFO.

Hey FlySSC ...let us dream a little ,after all we are MEA funs  Wink
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
KLM is about to stop serving both BEY & DAM.

When does this occur?What is the current situation in BEY in terms of traffic levels?


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 15):
Hey FlySSC ...let us dream a little ,after all we are MEA funs

Agreed  Wink  Wink  Wink

Quoting Donder10 (Reply 16):
When does this occur?What is the current situation in BEY in terms of traffic levels?

Can anyone inform me about when KLM stops going to BEY and DAM. Damn, this was the best way to go to BEY from MCO.

MCO-AMS MARTINAIR
AMS-BEY KLM

It was the only way to get to BEY by only stoping once.

 Sad


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 17):
Agreed

And you know what ? my psycho-loge says i still living the MEA golden era"the senenties"
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineKamboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

A question I've always have is when The president or the prime minister use an MEA aircraft, do they pull it out of it's normal scheduled destination or cancel the flight? How does that work for MEA with such a small number of planes. Why don't the gov't have their own specially designed aircraft. if MEA at all flies to US, canada or south America I'd rather they have like 3 777-200LR with a new livery to start with. I'd like a stylized lebanese flag on the tail ala BA or Virging or even Aeroflot? What ya think.

User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting Kamboi (Reply 19):
I'd like a stylized lebanese flag on the tail ala BA or Virging or even Aeroflot? What ya think.

Wow,i like the idea.Aeroflot is my favourite airline livery
Alex!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting Donder10 (Reply 16):
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
KLM is about to stop serving both BEY & DAM.

When does this occur?What is the current situation in BEY in terms of traffic levels?

I just found out it already occured.
KLM will not reinstate flights to Beirut

COPIED FROM KLM WEBSITE-

AMSTELVEEN, August 23, 2006 – KLM Royal Dutch Airlines will not reinstate flights to Beirut, Lebanon. The route was already loss-making before Beirut Airport was closed to commercial flights as a result of the state of war.



As soon as Air France resumes flight operations to Beirut, KLM passengers will be able with KLM’s French partner airline to fly to and from Beirut via Paris Charles de Gaulle.





This is a shame.


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 20):
Quoting Kamboi (Reply 19):
I'd like a stylized lebanese flag on the tail ala BA or Virging or even Aeroflot? What ya think.

Wow,i like the idea.Aeroflot is my favourite airline livery
Alex!!

Not a bad idea.


User currently offlinePhxtravelboy From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 17):
Can anyone inform me about when KLM stops going to BEY and DAM. Damn, this was the best way to go to BEY from MCO.

You're 13-15 MEACedar. Are you telling me you are planning a trip to BEY? I'm sure there's not much demand for MCO to BEY so who cares if it's more than one connection?


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Quoting Phxtravelboy (Reply 24):
You're 13-15 MEACedar. Are you telling me you are planning a trip to BEY? I'm sure there's not much demand for MCO to BEY so who cares if it's more than one connection?

After reading your post i feel that MEACedar is more mature than you
When i was 14 I flew alone and choose my own routing
RJ BEY-AMM connecting with RJ AMM-JFK 1 stop in VIE connecting with PA JFK-EZE plane change in GIG
My favourite hobby was then AIRLINE TIMETABLES
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
25 Post contains images MSYYZ : I would like to see a new livery as well , i don't know for some reason i don't like the MEA with the 3 colors on the fuselage , reminds me of a Lego
26 Post contains images Cedars747 : Dana kwayes,izayak inta ya beh? By the way congratulations to Montreal with the new AC YUL-ROM flight Salam   Alex!!![Edited 2006-10-12 23:26:01]
27 Phxtravelboy : My whole point Cedars747 is that a 13 year old is getting upset that there isn't 1 connection via AMS anymore on an extremely obscure routing, that I
28 Post contains images Viscount724 : The days are over when small countries like Lebanon can afford a national carrier operating a few widebodies to worldwide destinations. MEA's previous
29 Post contains images FOMEA : I Think its classic. Would like to see a bit more colors added to it. Dana Who? Regards F-OMEA
30 Post contains images Cedars747 : Alex!!!
31 MEACEDAR : I usually go down evey year with my family. We have a summer house down there. Luckily, this year we did not go down because my family was coming to
32 Post contains images Cedars747 : Dana abdallah wil agre alallah.FOMEA ,i miss MEA a lot Alex!!!
33 Post contains images MSYYZ : The old livery was very prestigious , with a nice contrast between Red and the white of the fuselage while the new one has a plain Arz Tree on the ta
34 MEACEDAR : Phxtravelboy, Look this is an AVIATION FORUM, you should not be racist and not every Lebanese is with Hezbollah. We should not be discussing politics
35 MEACEDAR : I think that MEA should go back to the red and white livery but also stylize the Lebanses flag on the tail. Thanks Kamboi and MSYYZ. You can put both
36 Cedars747 : I would love to see MEA in an livery similar to the Aeroflot one Alex!!!
37 Post contains images FOMEA : Alex, you said it wrong..Lets see if MSYYZ know what is all about. Yea Same here. I am hoping to get on F-OMEA soon..will leave it as a surprise . Re
38 Post contains images MSYYZ : So you would like MEA to jump on the ( flag on the tail wagon ) . A lot of Airlines have flags on their tails nowadays : Emirates , British Airways ,
39 Post contains images MSYYZ : What is it about Isn't : Dana 3abdallah we el agr 3ala Allah ?
40 Fly707 : The optimum fleet for MEA at that time is: 2 Airbus 330-200 9 Airbus 321-200 1 Boeing 747-400 ER or 1 340-500 for long range flights to South America.
41 Post contains images Cedars747 : I am I invited too ? Imagine us sitting in cedar class listening to Bous el wawa ,eating some knefe ah... i know ...dont tell..,you prefer sushi with
42 MEACEDAR : True. Not a bad idea.
43 MEACEDAR : LOL. I love that song. Wawa by Haifa.
44 Cedars747 : This is exactly haw i imagine MEA fleet, adding Australia to the route map Alex!!!
45 MSYYZ : Isn't this already done with the so-called Arabesk Alliance ? It is not a code-share but aren't the carriers involved supposed to co-operate in some
46 Post contains images FOMEA : Check your PM. Anytime Alex. No wawa Please. Sick and tired of it. More like Julia's New song. Regards F-OMEA.
47 Cedars747 : Soon or later Delta will have to code share with MEA as Skyteam members on BEY-USA flights Alex!!!
48 Cedars747 : We are not onboard yet and we are already fitting.look i will move to a jumpseat to have a better view of approach and landing in BEY.And you know wh
49 BA : According to an interview with MEA CEO Mohammad El-Hout after the war ended, MEA is going to be placing an aircraft order very soon. It will be for 1
50 OD720 : During hight traffic season, they have rented (wet-leased) a replacement for a few days so that the schedule won't be effected. This means that for t
51 ME AVN FAN : the destinations I gave are just a catalogue of possibilities. Even three or four of these would justify the procurement of 2 A330 . Maybe. Not as ri
52 Post contains images Cedars747 : Can't agree more ! Alex!!!
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