It's been announced for a while and will start on October 29th according to emirates.com. The equipment will be a 77W, which is a major capacity over CO's 752. EK will use their 5th Freedom Rights out of HAM and the flights are to be direct on the DXB-HAM and HAM-JFK route and they will be well timed, so that the current DXB-HAM-DXB schedule is maintained.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 9427 times:
Quoting DZ09 (Reply 9): I think the choice is clear, EK.....
But is it as clear LAX-HAM? MHT-HAM? CLE-HAM? EK offers JFK as a destination with a chance to connect to another carrier. CO offers EWR as a destination and a direct connecting city. We'll see how this works. My one flight HAM-EWR had many people connecting onward, some who were on my EWR-LAX leg.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
DZ09 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 490 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 9419 times:
One more reason why EK has to join an airline alliance, preferably SkyTeam or have some kind of codeshare agreement with a US carrier. If Emirates management was in the hands of american executives, there would be no stopping to this airline.
Kevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1155 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8684 times:
Quoting Semsem (Thread starter): Emirates will start Hamburg to New York flights. I think CO operates this service to Newark. I wonder whether this will impact CO badly or not.
Bad, of course! a HUGE increase in capacity by a competitor couldn't be much else...
(regarding cheap EK fares HAM-JFK)
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5): Of course they have, that's their only chance to even remotely fill up 400+ seats each way on a daily basis.
Quoting Avianca (Reply 6): all 400 seats are not to be filled in HAM, a big part comes already from DXB....
Yeah right...! Only those two DXB-JFK pax who missed their nonstop DXB-JFK flight are on the DXB-HAM-JFK..
And yeah, fares are crazy, I've seen a little over 200 Euros return HAM-JFK... btw many airlines an TA's alike in Denmark have added HAM as a departing city along with the usual Danish departure options (CPH and BLL primarily).. don't think this has got much to do with EK in particular though
Personally, I'd much rather fly a 777 than a 757 over the pond (daaah, look at my username..), however, CO still offers slightly wider seats than EK in economy (3-4-3 in a 777.. uuuhhhhh.. but nice inflight otherwise on EK it seems)..
"I was waiting for you at DFW, but you must have been in LUV" CPH-GOT-CPH-GOT-CPH-GOT-CPH...
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23169 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8524 times:
Quoting DZ09 (Reply 9): Here are choices.
NYC-HAM on a Co 757
NYC-HAM with LH ( not sure if this route exists)
NYC-HAM with EK on a comfortable T7.
I think the choice is clear, EK.....
"Comfortable EK T7"? Maybe in F and J but certainly not in Y with their cramped 10-abreast seating.
Do any other 777 operators have 10-abreast in Y class? I can't think of any.
But since EK's fares in the back of the bus are often the lowest, that's all most passengers seem to care about these days.
It always amazes me that EK is able to get away with such an uncompetitive seating configuration on their 777s.
P.S. LH doesn't operate HAM-NYC nonstop, just via their FRA and MUC hubs. If memory correct, in B707 days in the 1960s/70s they did operate nonstop for a few years. I believe DL also operated JFK-HAM nonstop before 9/11.
DL inherited the route from PA if I recall correctly. That being said, given that they're going for an major international expansion, why isn't DL considering a return to HAM? Doesn't have to be from NYC but it could also be from ATL if the O&D traffic is there to support the route.