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KLM Plane Diverts To AGB Due To Pax Riot  
User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11378 times:

I did some search and couldn't find a topic on this:

Tonight a KLM turboprop plane on the way from AMS to HOQ (Hof/Plauen) got diverted to AGB (Augsburg), after a passenger got violent and assaulted the pilot.
The flight was a charter for an Augsburg-based company and was actually planned to be on a Polish White Eagle Aviation plane. That plane however had technical issues in AMS and the KL plane got chartered and was able to take off hours behind the scheduled T/O.
since AGB is closed at night, the flight was then planned to land in HOQ. One of the pax was seriously unhappy with this decision and shorthandedly entered the cockpit, assaulted the pilots and forced them to land in AGB. The pax was seriously drunk.

Link to newspaper report (German only): http://azol.de/Home/AugsburgStadt/sp...20_puid,1_regid,2_arid,813938.html

SORRY if it got mentioned before, but I didn't find anything.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11371 times:

So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

I hope the passenger responsible does serious time for this and gets to pay the bill for it.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11329 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 1):
So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

Yes.

[Edited 2006-10-13 18:19:08]


Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11263 times:

If I'm correct this flight was operated by a White Eagle ATR-42.


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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11239 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):
If I'm correct this flight was operated by a White Eagle ATR-42.

The article says the following: The flight WAS SUPPOSED to be operated by the airline you mention, but the aircraft went tech and so a KL aircraft was chartered.



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User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11109 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 4):
The flight WAS SUPPOSED to be operated by the airline you mention, but the aircraft went tech and so a KL aircraft was chartered.

Exactly.
I wonder why there is no discussion on here about this?  confused 

And: With a plane full of coworkers, how could the pax succeed with forcing the plane to divert? Only by telling the pilot bad words? WHy didn't the other pax (his co-workers!) end this? maybe they were unhappy as well and didn't mind flying home?  angel 



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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11090 times:

But in the Dutch internet newspaper it says that the man gained entry to the cockpit. I do not believe that possible in any KLM aircraft?

It's been a terrible week! What's happening to our passengers?! On at least 2 other KLM flights a passenger was arrested after landing for fighting and/or unruly behaviour and on one occasion the crew even sedated a man.



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11068 times:

One mad person is not a riot. An incident maybe but far from a riot. That applies even if said person is schizophrenic.  hypnotized 

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10818 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 6):
But in the Dutch internet newspaper it says that the man gained entry to the cockpit. I do not believe that possible in any KLM aircraft?

I've also wondered about that. Maybe there is an exception for smaller airliners ?



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User currently offlineMd95 From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10731 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
So, AGB, the destination for the tech stop according to the article, was closed for the night and they had to divert to HOQ, only to be forced by a drunken passenger to divert to AGB?

Then everybody should have been happy! AGB was the original intended destination!!



dario
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10511 times:

Quoting Md95 (Reply 9):

You misquoted here. LTU932 said that, not me.

Besides, the article says a tech-stop was planned at AGB. It was not the final destination. But I agree, it sounds a bit strange.



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7195 times:

Also read it on teletext and wondered about the thin how the man could get into the cockpit. On small airliners like the SWM Metroliner the cockpit is open on some flights but a 27 pax plane should be a bit bigger and fly with a closed cockpit door.

Georg


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 11):

I guess the ATR are safest in that regard, because between the cockpit and the cabin is the luggage compartment. No way for pax to get in during flight.



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5886 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 12):
because between the cockpit and the cabin is the luggage compartment

You're right, do we know it was an ATR? Or was is it a Fokker 50/70/100? Whats about the Fokkers?

Georg


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13):
You're right, do we know it was an ATR? Or was is it a Fokker 50/70/100? Whats about the Fokkers?

KLM has no ATR's so it must be a Fokker 50. The cockpit door is in the cabin, just like most other aircraft.

Quoting A3xx900 (Thread starter):
Tonight a KLM turboprop plane

The Fokker 50 is KLM's only turboprop aircraft.



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2861 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

It was in the Dutch press too:

http://www.nrc.nl/anp/article510521.ece

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?id=16461



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4748 times:

Quote:

Berichten van het Duitse persbureau DPA dat het om een KLM-toestel zou gaan werden vrijdag tegengesproken door de Nederlandse luchtvaartmaatschappij.

Translated into English:

News from the German Press Agency DPA that the aircraft involved was a KLM-aircraft was denied by the dutch airline.



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 16):
News from the German Press Agency DPA that the aircraft involved was a KLM-aircraft was denied by the dutch airline.

Now which airline was it ???



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

i believe it was White Eagle (from Poland) but that was shot down (pardon the pun) earlier in this thread.


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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Guys & gals,

It was definitely NOT a KLM or KLC aircraft !!!
The flight was operated by SP-KCN, an White Eagle ATR42 in an all-white colour scheme, which had been parked at Schiphol-East for days, when the party was visiting AMS...



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 19):
The flight was operated by SP-KCN, an White Eagle ATR42

Making it more strange that someone was able to enter the cockpit, seems nobody has learned from 9/11 (sorry, I hate seeing me saying that Big grin )

Georg


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