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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5635 times:

Hello All,

I've been looking around on the site lately and I haven't read anything about any aviation in the Caribbean  ashamed 

Anybody have any news about any of the Airline's new routes/skeds/aircraft/news?

Have any non-Caribbean airlines released their winter timetables for the Caribbean?

Cheers,
MD90fan  wave 


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User currently offlineSJUSXM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

well BWIA is going through a whole process and changing to Caribbean Airways. There are numerous threads on that.


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5615 times:

BWIA, soon to be Caribbean Airlines, revealing its new livery, soon to start ops Jan1st...

Caribbean Star and LIAT possible merger, start up date Jan 1st as well.

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
I've been looking around on the site lately and I haven't read anything about any aviation in the Caribbean

On the contrary, quite a lot of serious news in a short period of time. Things are a bit exciting in the world of Caribbean Aviation these days.



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User currently offlineBALAX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

One update is that AA is upgrading its JFK-PUJ service to an A300. That's a nice welcome from the routine B757. That's all I know for now.

User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 2):
BWIA, soon to be Caribbean Airlines, revealing its new livery, soon to start ops Jan1st...

I checked it out, I'm not too into bland euro-white liveries, but this one is actually ok. Although the hummingbird doesn't make up for the steel pan  wink 

I'm going to miss BWee at IAD  frown 



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
I'm going to miss BWee at IAD

I am going to miss BW, period. Big grin I am not a big fan of the new livery, though better than a few eurowhites, stil not the green and gold pan livery.

And anyone know if AA has plans for other caribbean routes, say... Grenada? Of am I just wishing.



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User currently offlineRampero From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2004, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5512 times:

Some rumor's about CO drop Ponce P.R (PSE) to EWR route on 2007.

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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

There seems to be a lot of Caribbean news right now. Caribbean Airlines has revealed its new paint-scheme - it looks spectacular but with so much white it would need to be kept quite clean for maximum effect. Caribbean Airlines also becomes the first to fly the Caricom flag on its planes, akin to the EU flag displayed on many planes operated by EU carriers.

LI and Caribbean Star (8B) are seeking to merge, something which could consolidate air services in the region. So, it seems as though everything is happening in the Eastern Caribbean. Little seems to be coming out of Jamaica, The Bahamas, Cuba though - it would be interesting to know if there are any new developments up there.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5455 times:

CM to POS, was programmed to start this past July, but it was postponed.
POS has been on CM's website on-and-off quite frequently for online ticket sales.
It's believed it'll be operating this December, not sure if daily as it was 1st announced.
Aditional KIN, PAP flights and new service to AUA, CUR, BGI, SXM, GEO, PBM, BZE, GCM... keep waiting.



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 8):
Aditional KIN, PAP flights and new service to AUA, CUR, BGI, SXM, GEO, PBM, BZE, GCM... keep waiting.

Are all those for sure or still waiting?????

POS is confirmed for Dec.

Also in Dec new to POS is DL from ATL w/ 738!!!!!!!!!

Jan 1st Caribbean Airlines takes off for the first time.

Also the GOTT is in negotiations with MX to have a MEX-POS flight soon!!!

GOTT wants to turn POS into a Caribbean hub w/ cheap fuel, cheap landing fees, good infrastructure, ample hotel rooms, attractions etc. Good luck to them- I would love to see LAN fly from SCL and BA fly into POS from London.

AA1818



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User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5378 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 8):
new service to AUA, CUR, BGI, SXM, GEO, PBM, BZE, GCM... keep waiting.

Can you tell us more info on start date's.



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5357 times:

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 10):
Can you tell us more info on start date's

I only know that sometime next year the KIN flight will most likely be combined with MBJ. I'm sure all those destinations I mention earlier are in being studied at the moment and are good candidates for E190 service.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

The rumour of CM wanting to fly to CUR has been going on for more than a year with no confirmation so far so I believe it when I see it. So far, no news about that here in CUR.

Some more news from CUR:

Insel Air is working on getting their first MD82 from Air Adriatic with whom they want to co-operate as many pilots at Air Adriatic who flew for LM/K8 will now return to CUR to fly for Insel Air, the "new" airline of CUR. Insel Air started operations in August with a single EMB110. See my photo here:


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But, since a week ago Insel Air has been leasing a DHC6 Twin Otter from Grenadines Airways as their own EMB110 is on the ground due to technical problems, see my photo of Grenadines Airways in CUR here:


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Meanwhile DAE (9H) is protesting again against Insel Air's plans to start flying to SXM from CUR. DAE now claims Insel Air is not allowed to ever fly to SXM from CUR as they don't have the rights to fly the route (don't ask how, I don't understand it either). Besides this, the law in the Netherlands Antilles says that the air connection between the two islands must not be over-served so I wonder how the governments will rule on this route once both airlines are flying between CUR and SXM. The battle between DAE and Insel Air keeps going as both airlines have exactly the same regional expansion plans and refuse to work together. DAE plans on using the F100 on regional routes in the Caribbean and South America while Insel Air is working on using the MD82 with ex-LM/K8 crew to start regional routes in the Caribbean, South America and the U.S. Insel Air indicated they want to eventually fly all the routes that were once served by LM/K8.

Other rumour from the forum here is that Caribbean Airlines is looking at CUR but these are only rumours and nothing is said to be expected soon....

MP will start flying to CUR again starting the end of this month with a single weekly flight and a second weekly flight planned starting in November. The flight will be operated on sundays via BGI while the second flight will be a nonstop flight.

Arkefly (OR) will also increase their number of flights to CUR from three to four flights per week. The new fourth flight will make a stop in BON.

Other possible European charterflights to CUR might come from the U.K. and Germany.

It is almost time for the Canadian charter season when looking at last year but so far I haven't seen any Canadian charterflights to CUR yet so hopefully they will start soon. Usually 9G (Skyservice) operates these flights but having another Canadian airline fly these charters would be great too. I would love to see AC fly to CUR on a seasonal basis just like how they do with AUA and SXM. Time will tell....

Just like Canada it is also time for the Ecuador charter flights to start but again I have not seen the first charter flights from UIO yet. Last year AeroGal flew the route in October but after that TAME took over the route. TAME is reported to be very satisfied with the flights as they have been doing charter flights to CUR almost the entire year this year. I just hope they will also use the ERJ190 to CUR instead of the A320 which I'm used too....

A388


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5307 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 9):
GOTT is in negotiations with MX to have a MEX-POS flight soon!!!

Goodness gracious, I hope this happens soon. It is so hard to get home from here. I have to go through DFW, MIA, SJU before getting to GND.

MEX/POS/GND if i am broke is fine, or if i have a little more money, GDL/MEX/POS/GND. Sounds perfect and I can still get my Advantage miles.



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 5260 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 13):
Goodness gracious, I hope this happens soon. It is so hard to get home from here. I have to go through DFW, MIA, SJU before getting to GND.

Like you I stick to my One World carriers!!! Especially AAdvantage affiliated carriers too!!

I remember reading it in the Business guardian which was also the first place that mentioned flights to CUR before BW flew the route, CM's flight to POS before it was formally announced, DL from ATL some time ago long before it was announced, and also the MX to POS while I was at home this summer- I believe it was sometime around mid-August and I have seen it more recently mentioned in an article!!

AA1818



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

MX to POS?
IMHO, I don't see that much of a future for MX service to The Caribbean (other than HAV).
I think they've tried SDQ and SJU, but as for English-speaking islands, other than a possible Mexican football charter, I just can't imagine any MX Caribbean flights.
Maybe we'll see CUN-MBJ before MEX-POS.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 15):
MX to POS?
IMHO, I don't see that much of a future for MX service to The Caribbean (other than HAV).
I think they've tried SDQ and SJU, but as for English-speaking islands, other than a possible Mexican football charter, I just can't imagine any MX Caribbean flights.
Maybe we'll see CUN-MBJ before MEX-POS.

I have actually heard of the possibility of that flight before. There is alot business relations between Trinidad and Mexico, and now the caribbean in general, between SRE and OAS etc. I am here because of one of these said relationships. This flight is needed trust me.



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User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 9):
new to POS is DL from ATL w/ 738!!!!!!!!!

Also from DL

ATL- FDF and ATL-PTP start Mid Dec.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5167 times:

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 17):
Also from DL

ATL- FDF and ATL-PTP start Mid Dec.

Any chance DL will return to CUR from ATL? They operated to CUR for a (very short) while but eventually the route was dropped due to poor load factors I think. Is the market in better shape now to offer ATL-CUR flights again?

A388


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 18):
Any chance DL will return to CUR from ATL? They operated to CUR for a (very short) while but eventually the route was dropped due to poor load factors I think. Is the market in better shape now to offer ATL-CUR flights again?

A388

you are really eager for more flights to CUR!!!!!!!!

AA1818



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5138 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 19):
you are really eager for more flights to CUR!!!!!!!!

AA1818

Hahaha, yes sir I am! Give a poor aircraft photographer without the aircraft to photograph, a break here Big grin CUR is very quiet with little aircraft movement, so any potential route to CUR is gladly taken!!!!

A388


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 20):

Hahaha, yes sir I am! Give a poor aircraft photographer without the aircraft to photograph, a break here Big grin CUR is very quiet with little aircraft movement, so any potential route to CUR is gladly taken!!!!

You remind me of 'me' with my thirst for some airlines at GND. AA left us, US left us after the hurricane, and even BW left us. There is a 737 registered 9YGND and GND doesn't get BW flights anymore. So like you my friend, I want some action in GND. Big grin

P.S. At least Air Jamaica doesn't plan on leaving though, with no competition, GND has non stop JFK flights, and they are not shared with anyone. We had the 757 all summer too. Another loyal airline I must say is BA, they have been flying to Grenada for ages, and were among the first airlines to return schedule service after the hurricane in 2004.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 21):
You remind me of 'me' with my thirst for some airlines at GND. AA left us, US left us after the hurricane, and even BW left us. There is a 737 registered 9YGND and GND doesn't get BW flights anymore. So like you my friend, I want some action in GND.

P.S. At least Air Jamaica doesn't plan on leaving though, with no competition, GND has non stop JFK flights, and they are not shared with anyone. We had the 757 all summer too. Another loyal airline I must say is BA, they have been flying to Grenada for ages, and were among the first airlines to return schedule service after the hurricane in 2004.

Hey Captaink, how's life. So you know what I'm talking about haha. I thaught you were living/studying in Mexico. Have you moved back to GND?

A388


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

Quoting Rampero (Reply 6):
Some rumor's about CO drop Ponce P.R (PSE) to EWR route on 2007.

I think B6 is to blame for that one  bouncy 

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 9):
Jan 1st Caribbean Airlines takes off for the first time.

Hopefully they will come to the Bahamas one, but Im dreaming  cloudnine 

Quoting Captaink (Reply 21):
You remind me of 'me' with my thirst for some airlines at GND

Maybe Cubana will come  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 22):
Hey Captaink, how's life. So you know what I'm talking about haha. I thaught you were living/studying in Mexico. Have you moved back to GND?

I am still studying in Mexico, but home is home my boy, and for me that is Grenada. Hope to be there in two months... Big grin

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 23):

Maybe Cubana will come

HEHE, hey, don't kid from an aviation enthusiast standpoint, that would be awesome.  Big grin Once Fidel Castro came to Grenada with two Ilyushin Il-62, and two russian fighter escorts not sure the type. But that was really something, quite exciting for little GND. BTW those Russian jets are loud.

I do wish Caribbean Airlines, would really cover the caribbean, if that can be done with a profitable operation.



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25 Trintocan : DL to POS - interesting. They have thus filled the void that BW attempted to a few years ago - only to be road-blocked when T&T were dropped into Cate
26 Captaink : Before the merger, and during the FLL build up, US Airways had some serious interest in POS as well. I wonder if they are considering it still.
27 AA1818 : I have also wondered about that- it seems logical and there is certainly a market that is separate to the MIA market. ORD is another city that I thin
28 A388 : As far as I know US hub plans at FLL did not generate the results it expected and that US is slowly moving away from their mini-hub plans in FLL. I d
29 2travel2know : Would the new BW return to CCS? I believe BW did get rights to fly to Brazil, but I can't guess if BW really wants to fly overthere anytime soon, what
30 Post contains images A388 : If Caribbean Airlines and T&T can make POS work as a transfer point/hub than Caribbean Airlines indeed can profit from this as they will than become
31 2travel2know : POS is located quite far west from the shortest routes between Argentina/Brazil and Europe. Maybe could work for SCL, LIM and VVI but not for Argenti
32 A388 : You are absolutely right that's why I said if Carribean Airlines and T&T would do a good job in promoting POS as a transfer hub. It will be tough to
33 Post contains links Captaink : Since this is a general Caribbean News Post. Here is a little titbit to play with.. I like the possible change from Airbus to Boeing part very much. R
34 Trintocan : What is interesting to point out is that in the days when planes had short ranges and needed to refuel on long flights (1950s-60s), POS did indeed hav
35 Captaink : Do you think BW/ Caribbean Airlines, can make Brazil work now? Because when I look at all BW's latin american attempts, There weren't very successful
36 Post contains links TransIsland : Well, the Bahamas' government just signed a deal with a Canadian company to operate Nassau Int'l Airport: http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_lo
37 2travel2know : GRU is a market that won't sell well unless is served non-stop or combined with GIG or CNF. That MAO stop didn't work for AV when they had to do it (
38 Post contains links A388 : " target=_blank>http://www.thenassauguardian.com/nat...0.php Interesting link TransIsland. I remember below link to artist impressions of the planned
39 Captaink : Interesting, they are the ones currently working BGI, and they have projects for ANU and SVD. NAS should look great when finished.
40 A388 : Hey Captaink what's up. You are right, this company is also working on BGI that's how I got to know their plans for NAS as well but if the link given
41 Post contains links and images MD90fan : I actually can see HAV and PTY working for them IMO, but not PTY if CM starts it. Yes and they will create Newco, A Bahamian company which YVRAS will
42 Captaink : They already tried HAV, that was around the SDQ and Costa Rica flights. But you could be right about PTY, better they have some codeshare agreement w
43 Post contains images TransIsland : I think we can afford it, but we're going to milk the pax for the money anyways... which I disagree with in our case, as the airport is, IMHO, an inf
44 Post contains images MD90fan : Yep maybe a thrice weekly service with adequate connections can work, if they beat CM to the punch. If anything, it may encourage passenger numbers a
45 Captaink : What does DL use to NAS now? I took pics of DLs 767s in NAS and that was not more than 2 - 3 years ago.
46 Post contains images MD90fan : x1 MD-88 and x1 ERJ-145
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