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Finnair FA's To Strike This Week?  
User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3793 times:

A friend of mine is telling me that the AY flight attendants will start a strike on Thursday this week. Is this true, and is it about cost cutting or other "usual" reasons?

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User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3776 times:

Finnair's cabin crew have earlier managed to negotiate a salary that's apparently 30% higher than the national benchmark. Now the company needs more of them, but is hiring through the subsidiary Aero instead, in order to be able to offer lower wages.

Usually I think unions are a good thing, but this sounds like complete bullshit. Finnair isn't even going to renegotiate any old contracts. The ones with the 30% higher salaries will get to keep them.


User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

Do you have any info about the strike itself? I have some people coming from Finland on AY early next week, but I guess they can be booked on SAS just in case.

User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

No info, and I'm also finding it difficult to even guess at what's going to happen. It could get really ugly, as Finnair obviously can't afford to continue paying them 30% more than competitors do, and the flight attendant union isn't exactly known for being flexible.

I don't think the current solution will work anyway, however. It seems a bit weird to hire people through the subsidiary and then have them do the same job as everyone else. Finnair probably has something else up its sleeve and is using this as a scare tactic.


User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Thanks Killjoy; we will move my associates to SAS.

User currently offlineSquid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

It's called B scale. AA did this back in 1980 or 81. Robert Crandell didn't want to upset his employee's by asking for large concessions, so instead AA began hiring employee's on seperate contracts with seperate pay scales. Eventually, the A scale and B scale employee's contracts were blended, but not for many years. The B scales were what allowed AA to grow so large, so quickly back in the 80's.

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 2):
Do you have any info about the strike itself? I have some people coming from Finland on AY early next week, but I guess they can be booked on SAS just in case.

Don't know how good idea that would be as the danish branch of SAS's FA most likely strike from next thursday, so unless your planning to go via ARN would I stay away from SAS week


User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
the danish branch of SAS's FA most likely strike from next thursday

Thursday next week, not this week...? Thanks for the advice, my guys will fly through ARN.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3528 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 7):
the danish branch of SAS's FA most likely strike from next thursday

Thursday next week, not this week...? Thanks for the advice, my guys will fly through ARN.

Actually, its Tuesday next week.

(made a mistake in my previous post)


User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

Hi Finnish guys....anything new about the strike?

User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

It could go any way. It will be under mediation during the night.
I suppose http://www.finnair.fi/lakko will be updated.


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 9):
Hi Finnish guys....anything new about the strike?

The strike will start tomorrow (Thu 19th) at 4am, the talks will continue at the same day.


User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

So there'll be a strike! Only flights to Oulu, Kuopio and Tampere will be flown in Finland. MD-11s will fly to London and Paris. Other planes (not specified) to Brussels, Stockholm and Tallin. No international long distance flights will be flown.
Edit: all Boeing 757 charter flights will be flown however, but with some changes in schedules.


http://www.finnair.fi/lakko

"Kohteita ovat kotimaassa ainakin Oulu, Kuopio ja Tampere. Euroopassa lennetään laajarunkoisilla, noin 300-paikkaisilla Boeing MD-11-koneilla Lontooseen ja Pariisiin sekä muilla koneilla Brysseliin, Tukholmaan ja Tallinnaan. Kaukolentoja ei lennetä."

[Edited 2006-10-18 22:07:02]

[Edited 2006-10-18 22:08:14]

User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

We had a message on the intranet of a possable strike tomorrow. But no other info.
Lets see what happens


User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3232 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 13):
We had a message on the intranet of a possable strike tomorrow. But no other info.
Lets see what happens

It's already reflected in tomorrow's official dispatch list, so it's pretty much official:

http://www.helsinki-vantaa.fi/domesticdepartur
http://www.helsinki-vantaa.fi/internationaldep

So an MD-11 warning sounds for spotters in Paris and London!


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