B6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
I saw this on CNBC.com this morning and it stuck me as odd in a way. F9 has issued an RFP to approxiamately 50 communitites within 1,200 miles of DEN to submit a proposal for service. F9 said that they know some markets that they want to go into but this will help them make the decision and reassure them that some of the cities will support their service.
Fishing around would be a good guess of it. See who would offer a deal. I am sure F9 already has its eyes on where it will go, but if you can get an additional incentive, it might up the honey in the pot a bit.
Boslax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 2672 times:
I certainly hope Frontier does a little more due diligence on the potential new markets instead of serving the highest bidders. No new market is worth serving if there is no long term potential and the only reason who serve the market is because of a guarantee.
Many of these communities that F9 is targeting are probably served by United to Denver. This will hamstring many of those communities since they may be precluded from offering incentives in markets that are already served on a nonstop basis. Should be interesting to watch the reaction of United in the coming months.
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4609 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2604 times:
Quoting PVD757 (Reply 6): It would appear F9 is trolling for the best deal - airport incentives wise.
There's a shocker, ive heard from some airservice development folks i know that the guy at F9 can be pretty arrogant when it comes to dealing with airports who want service that arent willing to sell the farm...
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3395 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2479 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 9): Why not? Every mountain resort and smaller city within a 650 mile radius is lined up outside Frontier's door.
It is a very long list. The latest was Sun Valley.
So if everything else is equal - such as Frontier's evaluation of the prospective market - why not see what swings the deal?
Just about every other airline "negotiates" for a deal with airports. Frontier is just telling the truth.
why are so defensive about it? I never said anything was wrong with what they are doing - just pointed out what it seems they are doing. I think it's a smart idea to a point. The point being that these types of negotiations are usually left out of the media/public eye until an agreement is reached. I suppose floating the RFP without the press release would seem more 'prudent' for the lack of a better term. Its certainly good business to survey the market, but making it a media event is a bit tacky IMO.
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3395 posts, RR: 17 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2473 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 8): There's a shocker, ive heard from some airservice development folks i know that the guy at F9 can be pretty arrogant when it comes to dealing with airports who want service that arent willing to sell the farm...
I could only hope that ANY 'guy' from F9 would even consider serving PVD (much like many other local airport supporters I'm sure!!!)
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 22 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
COERJ145: Funny you mention that. I flew DEN-LAX this morning on F9 flight 403 and was looking down at PSP wondering the same thing. During the winter season I would think a daily A318 could actually work.
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
FlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2335 times:
Wishful thinking I know, but I'd like to see F9 fly DEN-PIA. UA dropped DEN-PIA in April 2003 and seems to have no interest in resuming this route. They apparently increased seating capacity and flights on their ORD-PIA route instead.