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Non-Rev Procedures On NW  
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Can anyone tell me the procedures on NWA when travelling stand-by.

What are the principles?

Should I wear a tie?

I guess also no jeans???

How about Polo-shirts?

This is in connex with the other thread I started ...

2day Trip To MEM. Any Immigration Problems? (by OHLHD Oct 17 2006 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7198 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2429 times:
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Wear something presentably casual, such as khaki trousers or slacks, belt, and a polo or golf shirt. Blue Jeans are not advisable. I don't wear them when i'm commuting to base, just incase I have to take the jumpseat(not allowed when jumpseat riding). Just wear something that you might wear to a social function.


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User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):

What are the principles?

business casual......

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
Should I wear a tie?

not necessary...besides, flying with a tie on? YUCK!

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
I guess also no jeans???

DEFINETLY no jeans......

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
How about Polo-shirts?

Nice polo shirt with some slacks is nice. Don't do the ultra casual polo shirts though. Something casual yet sophisticated.

As a non-rev, you really have to be presentable and dressed appropriately. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've had to tell people non-reving on us how inappropriate their attire was....it is disgusting sometimes.

User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 6847 posts, RR: 98
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2404 times:
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I was gonna chime in and tell you to instant message Jetjack, but it looks like he's already helping you out!  bouncy 

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Hey thanks guys!

Just like on my airline  Smile

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 2):
As a non-rev, you really have to be presentable and dressed appropriately. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've had to tell people non-reving on us how inappropriate their attire was....it is disgusting sometimes.

Definitly my opinion!!! I once almost offloaded a senior manager because he wore jeans! Very funny story!

Does anyone btw know how the check-in procedure is in MEM. I know about AMS but I am just curious!

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 3):

Thanks!!!

User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 835 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

I ZED on NW about once a month or so bwt PIT and MEM and I just wear nice jeans and a collard shirt. Never had any problems. When I go international on any airline it's always slacks a collard shirt and a sport coat. The sport coat is great at the gate when trying to slide yourway into J or F. Once you've been given the seat the coat can go in the overhead and you are still comfortable.


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 6):

But I know it from my airline, that it is poor poison to ask for a upgrade !! WHICH I WILL NEVER DO!!!! especially as it is the DC-10 and I dont like it myself if somebody asks  banghead  , but is it common that staff gets upgraded?

Is there a special counter at MEM to check-in with a staff ticket? or shall I just approach the Economy C/I?

User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 835 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 7):
But I know it from my airline, that it is poor poison to ask for a upgrade !! WHICH I WILL NEVER DO!!!! especially as it is the DC-10 and I dont like it myself if somebody asks banghead , but is it common that staff gets upgraded?

Is there a special counter at MEM to check-in with a staff ticket? or shall I just approach the Economy C/I?

I never ask directly for an uprgrade, but looking like you belong in F or J class is a good start to getting to sit there. Getting upgraded at the gate is a lot like picking up women at a bar, you need to read the situation and a little luck.


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User currently offlineLUVRSW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Use the kiosks to verify. Enter your PNR and it will print out a verification slip. That gets you through security and to the gate. Your seat will be assigned at the gate. You can also check luggage at the kiosk.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting LUVRSW (Reply 9):

It will be a 2 day trip so I will just have a little backpack. Thanks for that info!

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 8):

OK, let see, depends on my mood Big grin


Can anyone check loads btw, Mon 23rd AMS-MEM and return on 24th MEM-AMS.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9177 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
Can anyone tell me the procedures on NWA when travelling stand-by.

Contact your Pass Office and they will have the requirments.


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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3702 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 8):
I never ask directly for an uprgrade, but looking like you belong in F or J class is a good start to getting to sit there.

...or a great start to being assigned a choice seat in Y without even asking, based on my non-rev experiences with NW.

[Edited 2006-10-18 01:28:56]

User currently offlineSfomb67 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Nobody's mentioned it, but no athletic shoes either!


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User currently onlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 796 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

MEM advice from an NWA flyer  Wink

If you like BBQ stop by B27 gate and pick up some of Jim Neely's Interstate BBQ  Wink


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User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 2):
DEFINETLY no jeans......

Well Yes and No...

You can where jeans in Frist and WBC, just not "BLUE" jeans.

User currently offlineLucky42 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting Sfomb67 (Reply 13):
Nobody's mentioned it, but no athletic shoes either!

Some of you seem to be misinformed. Unless the dress code policy has changed within the last year when I seperated from the company in 2005 you CAN wear blue jeans and sneakers as long as it is neat and you have to have a collered shirt..No tee shirt and only in COACH ...Business casual for FIRST with no sneakers. So my advice to you is dress for FIRST because you never know coach might fill up with only first class open, doesn't happen often but I have seen it happen and they will not upgrade you if you are not dressed accordingly.

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

You can wear Jeans on WN non-rev  Smile I do wear khakis, but on my own airline, I wear jeans when economy is just fine during that day.


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User currently offlineNwa744tpa From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

When I am purser on international flights, I appreciate it when nonrevs from other companies find me and introduce themselves. This way I have an opportunity to check their crew ID, find out where their original seat is so I can find them if I have an available seat up front. I try and upgrade every one with a valid ID, so come on up and say hello next time.

User currently offlineFlyguydtw From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2042 times:

Quoting Jano (Reply 14):
MEM advice from an NWA flyer

If you like BBQ stop by B27 gate and pick up some of Jim Neely's Interstate BBQ

There is also Interstate BBQ by B14 and the new food court just past B8 on the right side.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 11):
Contact your Pass Office and they will have the requirments.

What doyou mean by Pass Office?

Quoting Nwa744tpa (Reply 18):
When I am purser on international flights, I appreciate it when nonrevs from other companies find me and introduce themselves. This way I have an opportunity to check their crew ID, find out where their original seat is so I can find them if I have an available seat up front. I try and upgrade every one with a valid ID, so come on up and say hello next time.

This is what I always do and it defintly helps a lot ( food and drink wise  Smile )

Quoting Jano (Reply 14):
If you like BBQ stop by B27 gate



Quoting Flyguydtw (Reply 19):
Interstate BBQ by B14

So I will arrive at the airport a bit earlier!! Big grin

User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Refering also to thread: http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2736549/

I don't get this... why the heck non-rev pax needs to dress any differently from full-rev pax!!?? I've seen countless of times full-rev pax with blue jeans (even torned ones) and t-shirts in F and C class of several (European) airlines. So if full-rev pax can dress however they please why non-rev pax can't - where is the difference really?

I non-rev a lot within Europe and I always wear jeans and polo shirt or something similar depending time of the year (because this is what I normally wear). I have never in my life been denied a C class seat because of how i'm dressed. This in Europe... in US however I have been denied a C class seat and if one poor passenger would not have been late I would have been denied the whole flight (luckily, I got he's last eco seat)! In this occasion I was wearing a proper shirt with blue jeans.

Wearing blue jeans and a proper shirt I got the best (overwhelming) service (C-class ticket) from EK staff in AKL! My jeans didn't seem to be a problem.

It was mentioned in the thread above that you represent your company when you non-rev... how is this? Other passengers don't have a clue that you are a non-rev and that's how it should be, you should not stuck out like a sore thumb!

But ok, fair enough... in US you must be dressed better that full-rev passengers... I just don't understand it. Dont try to convince me  Wink


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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting Nwa744tpa (Reply 18):
I appreciate it when nonrevs from other companies find me and introduce themselves. This way I have an opportunity to check their crew ID, find out where their original seat is so I can find them if I have an available seat up front. I try and upgrade every one with a valid ID, so come on up and say hello next time.

You're the man mate!!! Isn't that what it should all be about, taking care of one another; we all do the same job, just in different coloured uniforms!

After that, I shall look to fly NW if circumstances permitting; and never again another US major, on which i got the total cold shoulder by crew when trying to say hello and accused of just wanting a free drink!!

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Quoting DABZF (Reply 21):
I don't get this... why the heck non-rev pax needs to dress any differently from full-rev pax!!?? I've seen countless of times full-rev pax with blue jeans (even torned ones) and t-shirts in F and C class of several (European) airlines. So if full-rev pax can dress however they please why non-rev pax can't - where is the difference really?

Since the paying passenger " pays" for his tickets he gets more " rights" than a Non-Rev.

See the very last moment in the thread you mentioned.

The Non-Rev procedures have changed a lot in the last twenty years. my older collegues often tell me about travelling in business atire with ties and people getting offloaded as they removed their ties before departure, etc etc.

Quoting DABZF (Reply 21):
It was mentioned in the thread above that you represent your company when you non-rev... how is this? Other passengers don't have a clue that you are a non-rev and that's how it should be, you should not stuck out like a sore thumb!

Well, I do not think I represend my company since I pay the tckets myself! If I go on an ID00 on duty travel then I represent my company, however I would never embarrase my company by bad behaviour.

Conclusion: I always travel proberly dressed, because fighting against it would cause maybe an offloading of myself and that is bad in terms of late arriving to my job or extra costs for a new ticket or hotel.  Big grin

User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting Nwa744tpa (Reply 18):
When I am purser on international flights, I appreciate it when nonrevs from other companies find me and introduce themselves.

I could never do this. Because majority of the crew would think that I'm just trying to get a special service... I would say that people like you are a real rarity. I have only twice introduced myself to the crew (obviously not counting jump seat trips), once when I wanted to ask if it would be ok to sit in the cockpit for landing and another when I wanted to see the crew rest area. Both occasions on my own airline.

I have also met a few KF (Blue1) pilots who had said that they would never refuse a jump seat if it is available... these pilots (and you) are maybe 1 in a 1000.

And actually, wouldn't you be able to see from the pax list who is a non-rev, I know in my airline you can!? Maybe you should approach the non-rev instead? Anyway, I hope there would be more of your kind!

Oh, and to add my real thoughts... I think the dress code is just a great excuse for a pissed off gate agent to refuse your boarding!

[Edited 2006-10-18 13:28:26]


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25 EMBQA: The Pass Office is the department within the airline you work for that issues your non-rev ticket. They will also have all the requirments for travel
26 Post contains images OHLHD: trust me!!!! they have no idea!!
27 NWA744TPA: During boarding I keep a small sheet of paper with me to write down items I need to take care of before door closing. Since most NWA employees have th
28 OHLHD: Aha, that is very interesting. Since I always introduce myself and tell the F/A that they do not need to take care of me, I might get a surprise. Tha
29 Burnsie28: Because your also representing the company, just like would you go into a job interview wearing jeans... same principal applies here in business orie
30 OHLHD: Yes thanks!
31 CWAFlyer: Be aware that when you meal list on NW, they do not let you list yourself for a roundtrip. If the res agent is nice, he/she will book multiple legs, b
32 Post contains images Jblake1: I'm attending orientation with a NW regional affiliate next week. Will I be able to non-rev on other airlines besides NW? I can't wait to hit the ramp
33 Post contains images OHLHD: I have expierenced that once already back in L.A in Oct ยด01 shortly after 9/11 and I was travelling with my father and in SFO,HNL and LAX I was pull
34 DABZF: Can you please tell me how I represent my company??? I'm travelling on private matters on a ticket that I purchased (for a very very low price though
35 Lucky42: I agree 100 percent and have seen that very thing happen. However, non reving has it's advantages and dressing appropriately is a small price to pay
36 Copter808: DABZF, the difference is in your company's pass policy. If you're a revenue customer you can pretty much dress any way you want. As a pass traveller,
37 Post contains images Goaliemn: That is one thing I've never understood... you represent the company, but you aren't supposed to say you're traveling non-rev. Yet, by meeting the dr
38 Bobnwa: I don't understand what you are saying. You are flying for free with a few requirements. Is it such an imposition to look nice, like your company req
39 Post contains images DABZF: ...my thoughts excatly, I have found a friend! .... actually I don't have anything against looking nice and neat, no, no. My concern is more the prin
40 CWAFlyer: Anytime. I listed once and had the res agent tell me to call back to book the return leg because she was too busy. Anothertime the agent said she cou
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