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Fll Runway Extension For Heavy Aircraft  
User currently offlineFll2993 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 87 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3606 times:

fll biggest runway is 9000 ft. They plan to extend it. How is this possible with I 95 in their way and port evrglades

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3591 times:

I'm sure that if you poke around here, you'll probably find what you're looking for...

http://www.broward.org/airport/community_airportexpansion.htm


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3586 times:
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With I-95 on the west end with train tracks a little further west the solution is to the east. The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended. The east end, not being the main I-95 would be less disruptive.

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 2):
With I-95 on the west end with train tracks a little further west the solution is to the east. The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended. The east end, not being the main I-95 would be less disruptive.

Highways should definitely not be an issue. Stapleton had a highway (I-70?) going underneath it. Just do a cut/cover tunnel next to the existing one.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting Fll2993 (Thread starter):
fll biggest runway is 9000 ft. They plan to extend it.

In the near short term, the airport master plan calls for extending and widening the southern runway, 9R/27L, from 5,276' x 100' to something in the neighborhood of 9,000' x 150' or 8,500' x 150' (TBD) in order to alleviate congestion from major air carrier traffic on the northern main runway.

Lengthening the already-longer northern runway is merely a concept at this point, and isn't even mentioned in 95% of all airport expansion documents. Its sole purpose wouldn't be to allow heavy aircraft to operate into FLL (as the airport routinely sees 767s, DC-8s, DC/MD-10s, A300/310s, and occasional A330s, 747s, and 777s), but to allow those on the heaviest end of the spectrum depart with longer fuel range and/or increased payload than the current runway allows.

*If* the county determines, in the next 10 years, that expanding the existing longer runway is a necessary step toward achieving the airport's long-term goal, you *might* see its inception in the next 30. But don't hold your breath...



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User currently offlineFll2993 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

what is runway 13/31 used for?? Ive heard that runway isnt used really much at all ecause of the bridge and noise abatement.

User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4050 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
*If* the county determines, in the next 10 years, that expanding the existing longer runway is a necessary step toward achieving the airport's long-term goal, you *might* see its inception in the next 30. But don't hold your breath...

They need to bulldoze the house of a few of the local NIMBYs to do anything at FLL  banghead   banghead   gnasher !!!



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User currently offlineFll2993 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

In my opinion I think they should start making a new terminal by atc tower

User currently offlineXjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

In my opinion, you should stop posting pointless threads.


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User currently offlineFll2993 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3493 times:

how am i posting piontless threads??

User currently offlineXjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3488 times:

Do you really need me to go to the forum and list them here?


Look ma' no hands!
User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 2):
The 595 finger from the main I-95 could be placed in a tunnel at the east end of the airport, then the runway could be extended.

Well, because you just can't dig a tunnel in South Florida just anywhere. This isn't NY or Chicago with a heavy land bed. FLL is built on Sand. Believe it or not, you can't even build a swimming pool deeper than 6 feet before you start hitting water. Everything has to be built above ground. Metros, parking garages, diving pools. All the skyscrappers in South Florida either begin at ground level with multi -level parking garages behind them, or they begin somewhere around the fifth floor and have the parking garage occupy floor 1-5 lets say.

The only exception is the Kinney tunnel on US 1 and that is because it is near very old bedrock that lines the river. That's why it is the heart of FTL. Should have seen the problems they had building that. Would never work around FLL which is built around the port!

So, the idea was to extend the southern runway to gently slope up over the east to where it would leave just enough clearance under it for trains and cars. Well combine that difficult task with the NIMBYs and Voila le probleme Messieurs et madames


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