Qslinger From India, joined Apr 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 20069 times:
I live in Deira and am almost on the approach path. During my routine smoking session by my window and looking at aricraft line up for the final, the following is what I saw:
At approx 12:05 Tuesday morning, (17th Oct 2006, DXB time)A plane was on the final, about 5-6 Kms from the runway without its landing lights on. The only time when a single light did come is when the pilot lowered the landing gear and the nose wheel light lit up. I immideatly knew something was wrong. About 2-3 kms from the runway(still no landing lights), the pilot of the plane (Lufthansa 777) pulled back on the stick (a steep angle) and turned right. Everything else prior to that, like the altitude and the speed were fine.
Since it was late I did not wait up to see him retry the landing, but was wondering if anyone out there had any information on this. What went wrong there, was its a pilot error or was the runway not clear? Any other views?
P.S 1: Please excuse if I messed up the aviation terminology.
P.S 2: Those who are familier with Dubai, I live on Rigga rd.
Dean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 20040 times:
Lufthansa does not operate B777s. Maybe you saw an A333.
Your story seems like a normal "go-around" procedure. How can you be so sure about the distances? In the air, especially when you are in the same line with the aircraft, distance can be bigger than expected
Dean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 19911 times:
Quoting Qslinger (Reply 3): May be its a A 330. There is a flight scheduled around that time from Abu Dhabi International.
The purpose of the thread is to why and what happend? Just my curiosity since its the first time I saw it happen.
If it was an A330 it could also be EK as well. Then the procedure what you saw could be the part of an a/c test-fly or simply a go-around... I believe if there was anything serious, news would have reported it...
Bohlman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18284 times:
Why do people insist on saying things like:
Quoting Myt332 (Reply 6): What were you smoking to see a Lufthansa B777?
Quoting WINGS (Reply 1): I don't understand the purpose of this thread? Since when does LH operate the B777?
Last I checked, there was no prerequisites section on A.net saying "In order to post, you must correctly identify the following 15 airplanes, and must possess an ICAO ATPL."
The way I read those posts is "how dare you not know something about aviation?" This isn't like the thread going on right now about the guy who made the AC 767, where the guy was over dramatizing, this is somebody simply asking an unassuming question (he even apologizes for any mistakes in terminology!).
Also, I believe the limit for editing posts is 30 minutes, so what's the purpose of telling him to change the title 30:40 later? His post was not misleading, and was a whole lot more concise than most posts.
Back to the topic, it sounds like a typical go-around. Maybe the reason they didn't have all their lights on was because they had just come out of clouds?
Qslinger, just to let you know, this is a common enough occurrence that there wouldn't be any type of report written up, unless the consequent later landing ended in an incident.
Myt332 From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 9114 posts, RR: 69
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18198 times:
Quoting Bohlman (Reply 12): Last I checked, there was no prerequisites section on A.net saying "In order to post, you must correctly identify the following 15 airplanes, and must possess an ICAO ATPL."
It was a joke Mr America. He even got it so please less of your acting big crap.
Lordg From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16779 times:
Quoting Morvious (Reply 17): not all people on this side are real plane nuts.. He saw something new for him, was thrilled about it.. Shared the news with us what is a good deal end of story!!
Thats what a forum is for!
thanx for that
over thee last couple o years i've been looking at this site ,the forums have become increasingly toffe nosed and snobby- let's relax guys, it's not a job application
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1938 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15865 times:
Quoting Qslinger (Thread starter): Since it was late I did not wait up to see him retry the landing, but was wondering if anyone out there had any information on this. What went wrong there, was its a pilot error or was the runway not clear? Any other views?
Hala! Actually, DXB is extremely busy around noon and late at night. I'm no professional, but I do use Dubai alot. Usually, airlines have two approaches to land. One, from the Arabian Gulf onwards over Diera until the airport (as you saw), and the other from Emirates Highway (south) and from Sharjah territory and the desert (usually at night).
Usually, when the airport is busy, airlines Q up on the southern area, and when its not that busy they do the other way.
I was on an A300 flight and just one minute from touch down (we could literally see people walking!) , the pilot adjusted the flaps and the plane went up again and banked to the right. We were at the Diera side, but then we turned around and Qed up towards the southern area. So, its very common. Don't worry!
RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 800 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15764 times:
Then there are also those that are quick to point out that "this thread does not belong on this forum" yet then actively participate in the discussion.
Another variety include those being biased against our younger members. Unless that 18-year old proclaims to be a rocket scientist and has a sure fire formula to solve the problems of Airbus, let him have his say as long as it isn't arrogant. And that goes for everyone.
We all have our opinions, but on the other hand, I think that we appreaciate learning something from this group get-together.
I know that there are some sacred cows on A.Net, but why get your blood pressure trying to reason with them. They are already in their own world and they won't be coming down to meet with us Earthlings.
Parisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 15020 times:
I had experienced a missed approach/go around at DXB with EK 773 ! We were about to land when the engines suddenly revved up as if we were taking off again..and indeed we climbed very fast.the captain got on the PA and explained to us what happened. That was really cool. We landed normally not too long after. Forgot what the reason was as told by the captain over the PA....I think more to do with traffic on the runway or something like that (not about the plane is what i wanted to say)
Quoting Myt332 (Reply 6):
What were you smoking to see a Lufthansa B777?
Quoting WINGS (Reply 1):
I don't understand the purpose of this thread? Since when does LH operate the B777?
I agree. I'd rather have people posting who are unsure of aircraft designations than people who, because they prefer one plane, insist on bashing another in every thread they can, like:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 11): I only wish Lufthansa will buy 773ER's and dump the A340's. A333 are dogs for Oceanic traveling too.
Moderators, can we do without these sorts of useless flame-baiting remarks that serve no purpose but to take up server space? This sort of nonsense has infected Civil Aviation on A.net to the point that I'm tired of reading it in nearly everything thread that dare mentions anything made by Airbus. It is pushing me to revoke my membership. I joined here to take part in relatively intelligent discussions of aviation, not to read comments by boeing fanatics who feel its their duty to bash airbus every chance they get.
As for the original question, I don't think this person was questioning the frequency of these events or pointing out anything disasterous. Go arounds, while relatively frequent, aren't "normal". They aren't dangerous per se, but its not what's supposed to happen on final. A landing is normal.
But what IS normal is for one of us aviation fans to see a go around and wonder what provoked it, and naturally we turn to this forum to see if anyone has information. If anyone knows about that particular incident, I'm sure the original poster would love to know. As would I, even if it just was simply "traffic on the runway".
: I had experienced a missed approach/go around at DXB with EK 773 ! We were about to land when the engines suddenly revved up as if we were taking off
: This last statement is very true I seen and heard an XLA 743 go around here at MAN yesterday it was great watching it clean up and it got a few peopl
: Wow.... I remember around three years ago when I asked if certain photo was a 767 or a 777 how blamed I was.... now I really don´t understand why and