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Domestic Flights In Bolivia, Peru And Argentina  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8125 times:

Hi,

I'm after fare details - if you buy the ticket in the country, rather than expensively over the 'net in advance - for the following flights:

1) TDD-SRZ. Amadeus says 5L operates the route about twice-daily using D28s, but I can't find info. on 5L's website.

2) SRZ-CBB. Both LB and 5L operate this route numerous times daily using 727s.

3) CUZ-AQP. LP operates it once-daily using the 319 and has a further once-daily one-stop flight also using the 319.

4) USH-RGL. AR operates it once-daily using the M83.

5) IGR-AEP. Numerous daily flights by AR, A4, etc.

Thanks a lot!


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8122 times:
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Hi Pe@rson,

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
1) TDD-SRZ. Amadeus says 5L operates the route about twice-daily using D28s, but I can't find info. on 5L's website.

if you look carefully in the Aerosur web site, the domestic schedules are from 2003!!

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
2) SRZ-CBB. Both LB and 5L operate this route numerous times daily using 727s.

LB operates daily a 100 from SRZ to CBB.

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
4) USH-RGL. AR operates it once-daily using the M83.

Very old aircraft and in a worst conditions. Good luck!!

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
5) IGR-AEP. Numerous daily flights by AR, A4, etc.

A4 were out of business last year when they try to compete with AR and IB leasing 742 and 763!!

This route is now operated by Aerolineas Argentinas with M80 and 737 equipment; LAN Argentina operates with 737 and 320 equipment.

Will be nice to fly in LAN Argentina.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8096 times:

Thanks, G.

Why is Amadeus' info. so out-of-date, then?



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8068 times:

Oooops. Sorry, I misread what you wrote.

Glad to see 5L's website is so up-to-date.  Silly

Any idea of the fares if purchased locally?

Thanks.  Smile



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22923 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8059 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
5) IGR-AEP. Numerous daily flights by AR, A4, etc.

4M is $82 U.S. o/w with some advance purchase. If you go to lan.cl, you can buy in English with a credit card from wherever. Taxes on domestic flights aren't real high in South America, so it should easily be less than $200 r/t.



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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8044 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
4M is $82 U.S. o/w with some advance purchase. If you go to lan.cl, you can buy in English with a credit card from wherever. Taxes on domestic flights aren't real high in South America, so it should easily be less than $200 r/t.

This route is 100USD including taxes on both AR and 4M when bought by foreigners. You cannot buy domestic fares when you do not hold an Argentinean passport. So, if you buy thru lan.com in advance, select your appropriate country and don't go for the "Argentina" option, unless you are prepared to pay the difference at check-in.

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
4) USH-RGL. AR operates it once-daily using the M83.

Very old aircraft and in a worst conditions. Good luck!!

For heaven's sake! I don't know how you dare to insult Aerolineas, but obviously you've never been on an Austral or AR MD-80. They're fine and everything but old and "worst conditions".
The flight to Rio Gallegos will cost about 60USD, you'll have to pay additional airport taxes in USH. I don't know what you're planning to do in RGL, it's a sh*thole. Try to fly to FTE directly, if that's where you're heading next. When going north, try REL.

EDIT: If you mean LADE, instead of AR, I will take back my words. But in your post I read AR!

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
1) TDD-SRZ. Amadeus says 5L operates the route about twice-daily using D28s, but I can't find info. on 5L's website.

if you look carefully in the Aerosur web site, the domestic schedules are from 2003!!

5L does not fly TDD-SRZ anymore. You can fly Amaszonas instead, but I've heard some doubtful stories about them. At least its cheap, for less than 70 USD you're done See http://www.amaszonas.com/

Happy flying, luckily FR doesn't mess around in South America, so you'll get to see something *different*. At last...

[Edited 2006-10-18 19:24:32]

User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8016 times:
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Hi Pe@rson,

my sister stayed in Argentina last summer with my brother in love. She flew to EZE from MAD with IB and all the domestic flights were flown with AR.

The domestic flights are very expensive and the only chance you have to get these tickets more cheapest is to arrive from your foreign country with AR flights.

From Spain there are a reduction of 35% if you made all the flights with AR.



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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7980 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):
The domestic flights are very expensive and the only chance you have to get these tickets more cheapest is to arrive from your foreign country with AR flights

Well, if you book the tickets in Argentina, they are quite reasonably priced (i.e. for foreigners with hard currency).

AEP-IGU - 100 USD
AEP-USH - 150 USD
AEP-BRC - 200 USD
AEP-COR - 70 USD
USH-FTE - 70 USD

The only things that you need to look out for are low-fares for the peak travel times in December and January, especially when flying to USH. But from this year on, LAN Argentina is serving the heavily congested route AEP-BRC-FTE-USH with A320's, this should improve the situation a bit.
Furthermore, USH is connected to PUQ (Punta Arenas, Chile) with LA in summer...


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22923 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7935 times:

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 5):
This route is 100USD including taxes on both AR and 4M when bought by foreigners. You cannot buy domestic fares when you do not hold an Argentinean passport. So, if you buy thru lan.com in advance, select your appropriate country and don't go for the "Argentina" option, unless you are prepared to pay the difference at check-in.

Thanks, PH-KLM. I had forgotten about that reg, and should have mentioned it. The $187 with taxes fare is for foreigners (and may be paid in Argentine or Chilean Pesos, American dollars, or Euros if that helps with credit card fees).



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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
Thanks, PH-KLM. I had forgotten about that reg, and should have mentioned it. The $187 with taxes fare is for foreigners (and may be paid in Argentine or Chilean Pesos, American dollars, or Euros if that helps with credit card fees).

Well, maybe this is getting too detailed, but your statement is true and false.
If you book AEP-IGU well in advance thru LAN.com using "Other countries" you can book a 'web-special' fare of 82 USD. Including all taxes this is 93 USD. You can pay this online via all major creditcards, or in Argentina in peso's or US dollars. So if you are OneWorld FF and like the A320, this the way to go.

If you opt for AR or AU the same flight costs 365ARS, that's well over 100USD, but - now here's the crucial part - this ticket has to be bought WITHIN Argentina.
So Pe@arson if you want to book ahead go for LAN Argentina, you will have an e-ticket, pre seat-selection and on-line check-in and you are able to get the lowest possible fares and pay online.
Aerolineas is also fine but when you buy from abroad they charge you in USD instead of ARS (300% more expensive), so you'll need to wait till you are in Argentina and buy the tickets there.

On a final note; besides the tricky thing on buying tickets from abroad online , there is also a difference for tickets bought within Argentina, but they will never sell you a domestic fare unless you have an Argentinean passport. When you try to purchase a ticket online they will let you pay the price difference at check-in.

Ok hope this clears things up.


User currently offlineRatypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7860 times:

may have changed but when i was in peru i used to go down to the LAN offices a couple of days before i wanted to fly and book internal peruvian flights for about 40-50 dollars one way from cuzco to arequipa/arequipa to lima etc

User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 770 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

Quoting Ratypus (Reply 10):
may have changed but when i was in peru i used to go down to the LAN offices a couple of days before i wanted to fly and book internal peruvian flights for about 40-50 dollars one way from cuzco to arequipa/arequipa to lima etc

I have been to S.America a few times, last in 2005 and this was the case. Just go to a local booking office or travel agent and the tickets are very cheap, think i paid abut $45 CUZ-AQP with LA and flew 2 internal Bolivian flights with LB and think they came to a combined $100. If I was you I would wait til you get there, but I have no experience of Argentina Im afraid

[Edited 2006-10-19 15:33:53]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

Thanks, folks. Nice to hear about those cheaper in-the-country fares. Anyone have any in-the-country info. re. those 5 routes I posted?


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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 770 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7788 times:

The only one of those particular routes I have flown was with LP AQP-CUZ return twice. Nice new A320, excellent views as you come into CUZ, particularly if you sit on the left side of the aircraft if I remember. Flight was cancelled on one my trips however due to "fog" but yet other aircraft were taking off. IMO was just due to lack of passengers but welcome to South America I suppose!


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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7749 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
Taxes on domestic flights aren't real high in South America, so it should easily be less than $200 r/t.

The tax in Peru (IGV) is 18%, and that's considered high. There are also, most likely, airport charges.

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):
with my brother in love

Ha ha, I'm only correcting you because it was funny. Your sister's husband is your "brother in law," which is cunado in Spanish.

FLY2LIM



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