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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

http://www.todaystmj4.com/_content/news/topstories/story_4773.asp

I don't think it's been posted...I searched and couldn't find anything. Anyway...it's an interesting read.


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User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9268 times:

It's sound like another star employee for TSA in MILWAUKEE.I guess she will be a supervisor soon.  stirthepot 

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9251 times:

I was told by a TSA screener in DAY to take the money out of my wallet before I put it in the xray. She said there is nothing wrong with that and that it wont be detected etc. She also said, there are some scary people working here. Ever since then I pocket my money and throw the empty wallet in.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineMeanGreen From United States of America, joined May 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9251 times:

What an idiot. But to be fair there are bad eggs in every organization.

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9194 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 2):
I was told by a TSA screener in DAY to take the money out of my wallet before I put it in the xray.

Why would you put your wallet in the x-ray? Is this some new rule I don't know about?



She was taken to jail awaiting a charge of theft and was being held on a cash bail amount of $200.

Wow, they realy set the bail high on that one! Do you think she will post the whole bail amount or get a Bondsman and post $20?
 Yeah sure  Yeah sure

[Edited 2006-10-19 00:09:45]

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9178 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Why would you put your wallet in the x-ray? Is this some new rule I don't know about?

I was always told to take out everything in my pockets...Not to mention I have a billfold that has metal in it, not a wallet per se.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9049 times:

The funny thing is that the TSA at MKE is much, much more competent than their compatriots at some other airports.


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8991 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I was always told to take out everything in my pockets...Not to mention I have a billfold that has metal in it, not a wallet per se.

I use a Montblanc stearling sliver money clip* and neither it nor my credit card holder leaves my pocket when I'm going through security...and I've never had a problem with it.

If I ever did have a problem, I would request a hand inspection...There's no way I'm putting negotiable instruments through an xray machine. (Not only because I have minimal trust for TSA agents, but that while I'm going through the metal detector any passenger on the other side could "accidenially" grab it.

Lincoln
*- Sadly, it's probably worth more than the amount of cash in it at any given moment, but the combination money clip+credit card holder is a plesant change from the 2"-thick wallet.



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8821 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
I use a Montblanc stearling sliver money clip* and neither it nor my credit card holder leaves my pocket when I'm going through security...and I've never had a problem with it.

Really? I use a money clip too (nothing fancy, just an ordinary metal money clip) and I used to just throw it all in so my pockets would be empty. Then one time, a TSA agent advised me to just throw the clip in and leave the money and cards in my pocket. I know there's a lot of things you can leave in your pocket that the metal detectors would never catch - but something made of pure silver? How does that work?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Why would you put your wallet in the x-ray?

Because you're an idiot. Wallet stays in my hip pocket and never had a problem. Cash, however, is never in the wallet . . . for obvious reasons.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 6):
The funny thing is that the TSA at MKE is much, much more competent than their compatriots at some other airports.

 rotfl  Based on what?

And if they are, really, that much more competent, it really isn't all that big a deal. I mean, afterall - look at the TSA in general - would it really take all that much to be more competent?


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8728 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 8):
I know there's a lot of things you can leave in your pocket that the metal detectors would never catch - but something made of pure silver? How does that work?

I think the mass is low enough and there's enough other junk around it (money, skin, clothing) that the effect is lessened.

Usually by that time it's the only metal left on me -- I dump my keys, cell phone, watch [heavy metal band], iPod, and usually belt in my laptop bag before getting in line for security, so that helps

I used to leave my belt on, but it the buckle has been just a little too much for some smaller airports so I've started taking it off as a matter of habit (Once at a certain larger airport that I visit frequently I had completely spaced and went through with watch, belt, and moneyclip and had no problems. Once I realized how much metal I had just walked through I thought about turning around and asking if they were sure the metal detectors were still on).



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8663 times:

Anything smaller than your average belt buckle (not texas sized) is fine. Most money clips have less metal and density than a belt buckle.

Now, a pile of loose change is heavier and denser, but one or two quarters won't set it off either.

Never take your wallet out of your pocket.



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8646 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
Anything smaller than your average belt buckle (not texas sized) is fine. Most money clips have less metal and density than a belt buckle.

I'll give it a try tomorrow when I fly to PHX.


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8496 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
Because you're an idiot. Wallet stays in my hip pocket and never had a problem. Cash, however, is never in the wallet . . . for obvious reasons.

Pardon me for asking this but isnt carrying your wallet in your hip pocket just asking for a pick pocket to come up and snatch it away??? I have never understood what posesses ANY man to place such an item in a back pocket of their pants.....

For myself everything I have of any value goes in the carryon that goes thru the X-Ray.......My passport and ticket stay in my hand and everything including my watch comes off and goes in the bag......It has so much in it that itd take amonth of sundays for any thief to figure out what the heck he is steeling anyway....

Access-Air



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8470 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 13):
Pardon me for asking this but isnt carrying your wallet in your hip pocket just asking for a pick pocket to come up and snatch it away???

Not really. Never had a problem. I check it often, it's there. Cash is never carried there however . . . as I said.

And when I travel, passport and tickets are in my front shirt pocket.


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

I see.....thats good then.....I have just never been able to feel comfortable about stowing my wallet there....

Access-Air



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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8400 times:

Personally my eyes never leave the the screener or the conveyor belt. I'll be damned if I step past the metal cage thing on the other end. Just a little tip, instead of hassling with your carry-on and the items in your pockets. Put all your lose items in either your carry-on or stuff them all the way into your shoes so that you'd have to tip the shoes backward to get your items out.

But yes, don't trust TSA for the life of you.


User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8380 times:

One more reason why I dont carry cash....at all. Except for certain situations where I know I will need immediate cash I only carry plastic in my wallet. Anyone wants to steal it they can go right ahead, a few phone calls and everything in it is worthless.

User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8347 times:

Well, it's time for me to get on my soapbox. I guess I should be at Speakers Corner in Hyde Park; but here it goes.

I have gotten background checks from my company, the local school system, the FAA, and the USAF; and I am being regularly shaken down by someone who is a much greater security risk than I'll ever be.

Boy, do I feel secure!!  Wink


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13634 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8296 times:
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Quoting Access-Air (Reply 13):
everything I have of any value goes in the carryon that goes thru the X-Ray

That's how I do it as well. Watch, keys, money clip, cell phone - it is all removed in line for the x-ray and placed in a secure pocket in my carryon. The whole carryon gets scanned and then upon exiting the machine I pull the items out and back on my person.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7505 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Why would you put your wallet in the x-ray?

Because you're an idiot. Wallet stays in my hip pocket and never had a problem. Cash, however, is never in the wallet . . . for obvious reasons.

Same here. My wallet never leaves my pocket, unless I intend to use the contents therein.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 19):
That's how I do it as well. Watch, keys, money clip, cell phone - it is all removed in line for the x-ray and placed in a secure pocket in my carryon. The whole carryon gets scanned and then upon exiting the machine I pull the items out and back on my person.

Except for money, I do the same thing. Everything is in the briefcase zipped up, so as to remove the temptation.


User currently offlineBoeing727flyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7170 times:

To be honest I NEVER trust those guys. On my trip back from the UK last year I had my English football jersey and some other items removed from my luggage at LGA by TSA staff and they admitted it and got fired,never got my stuff back though. So when asked why my bag is locked I always say " To stop you stealing from my luggage" like last time.


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User currently offlineVEEREF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6977 times:

I won't let my stuff go through the machine until it's my turn to walk thru the xray, nor will I leave it behind to do the same. Never let your stuff out of your sight. You have the right to do that. Not just TSA, but anybody can grab stuff if it's unattended.

User currently offlineCall911mfc From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

The big problem with the TSA is the general attitude within the TSA bureacracy. They want a law enforcement-type agency, but are only willing to pay WalMart wages. When you have sub-standard hiring practices coupled with sbu-standard pay, it only leads to problems.


When they started the big hiring push several years ago, I had a friend with 20+ years of law enforcement experience. 10 of those were spent in management/leadership positions. He went through the hoops to get hired on, but was turned down for a management position for someone with NO managerial experience.The only reason this person got hired was that they knew the person doing the hiring.

The best way to handle it is to treat the TSA as a legitimate law enforcement agency and train them as such.


User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

The whole TSA screener crew are thieves... probably not former criminals though (because of the background checks). The TSA has been given very broad powers and leeway in airport security and TSA agents take advantage of this situation by stealing and intimidating complainers either with arrest or through less than sympathetic customer service. Heaven forbid if the TSA is unionized (if it isn't already) then it will become a huge racketeering organization.

Paying TSA agents more is not really the answer either... look at our politicians in Washington, they loot and accept kickbacks despite large personal wealth. With the TSA, you need stricter hiring standards and perhaps heavier penalties for law breakers in uniform... then, and only then, can you reward honest employees with higher pay.



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25 Tod : Not always. The sensitivity threshold varies. I've been pulled aside at LAX because of the tiny rivets in my Levis. TSA joker told me that "should ha
26 YYZYYT : That raises an issue I have wondered about. I have had a lot of trouble in the past travelling through YYT, a smaller airport that I use a lot. For a
27 VonRichtofen : The TSA... hahaha I hate to bring Bush into another thread but it's funny when the Bush administration accuses other nations of lax security when thei
28 Lincoln : As I've told coworkers, I'd almost rather have no security than the illusion of security -- At least (a) People wouldn't be treated like criminals (b
29 Laxatljfkcvg : Millwaukeeout of all airports! Now thats just funny!
30 Laxatljfkcvg : Millwaukee out of all airports! Now thats just funny!
31 Ckfred : Just a tip. I put everything in my pockets that could have metal (wallets, keys, change, fountain pens, etc.) in my carry-on bag, before I enter the s
32 Tom in NO : I'll buy that.....sometime pre-Katrina there were something like 8 TSA agents at MSY arrested at the same time for theft. TSA ought to stand for "Tho
33 SkyexRamper : Where are the background checks on these people? I mean average good hearted people just don't start stealing. I'll bet 1/5 of all TSA screens have ha
34 YULWinterSkies : Please, no personal insults on a public forum... Thanks. Good tip. Wallet usually ends up in my coat pocket or anything like that. Small change in po
35 Tugger : Everything of mine that is metal comes off and goes into my carry-on's zip pocket. I just don't care to have any reason for them to say "please step o
36 Post contains images KaiGywer : Yeah, cop salaries are way too low I want a raise!
37 Call911mfc : Yes, the sensitivity of the machines can be adjusted, but there isn't a machine out there that will pick up the magnetic strip on a credit card or tw
38 Arffguy : Dang dude, such a sweeping generalization. I take it none of your friends or relatives work for TSA. Do you get peeved when people say that all of yo
39 Baron52ta : If the bail is that she would probably have that in her pocket anyway haha. But what happens behind the scenes with checked bags is worse as they req
40 Post contains images DABZF : It's funny how they they are called "Transportation Security"... security as safe, right? I'm always scared stiff when I go through security in US and
41 Copter808 : Wow, that's a pretty libelous statement! Where on earth did you get this information from?
42 57AZ : No kidding! Salaries for public servants are really bad, especially those who deal with dangerous duties or confidential information. In the past few
43 Kaukau : How the heck did our civil aviation industry make it from 1919 to 1969 or so without all this BS, and aren't we the lucky ones who remember it well?
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