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Am Expands At SAT, MX Looking At Chicago's Gary  
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

Mexicana is now looking at Chicago's Gary airport, surprising since they pulled out of Midway.
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articl...14c714aaadcb6586257205007bad56.txt


Aeromexico is expanding at San Antonio, going from weekly to daily.

[Edited 2006-10-19 18:10:28]

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4879 times:

Quoting Juventus (Thread starter):
Aeromexico is expanding at San Antonio, going from weekly to daily.

The flight will be operated with 737. Further, AM (AeroLitoral) flies MTY-SAT with Embraer ERJ-145.

Seems AM is rapidly stealing market share from MX in both cities, SAT & CHI...

...and probably YYZ.

MX, awake!

Fyano


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Perhaps GYY should start advertising the benefits of their airport...

"Tired of the endless delays at ORD and MDW? Come use our uncrowded, uncongested airport!!"

Public perception will change once lower fares and less congestion become well-known. The travelling public will vote with their pocketbook as they always do.



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User currently offlineGortsilo From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

GYY could work for MX, but instead of looking there they should try at MDW. I don't even know why MX pulled out of MDW.

User currently offlineJimbo83 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

I knew Aeroliteral flew SAT-MTY, but how long has AeroMexico been flying to San Antonio and what city/cities do they serve?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4663 times:

Anyone have any idea how big GYY's FIS is?


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4658 times:

Quoting Gortsilo (Reply 3):
GYY could work for MX, but instead of looking there they should try at MDW. I don't even know why MX pulled out of MDW

I agree with you. I think MX should reconsider going back to Midway before they look at Gary. Many people still don't know where Gary airport is located.


User currently offlineBravogolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4623 times:

Mx has expressed interest in using GYY but at this time we cannot accomadate the new requirements for customs and immigration for air carriers.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4578 times:

MX has also expressed interest in serving Little Rock (Arkansas).
http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/168417/

Lately it seems they been interested more in smaller airports. Probably a good thing, less competition with AM and the US carriers.


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3043 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4548 times:

Mexicana should look into going back to MDW. The only obstacle for MX at MDW is trying to find a slot to get into the two international gates(A2 and A3) for their arrivals.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7587 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting Gortsilo (Reply 3):
they should try at MDW. I don't even know why MX pulled out of MDW.

I recall reading here once that the main reason was that it was costly to operate to/from two different airports in the same metro area. In any case, there was not much MX service from MDW, was there? It was MDW-GDL or MDW-CUN, I am not sure which of the two.

Quoting Jimbo83 (Reply 4):
how long has AeroMexico been flying to San Antonio and what city/cities do they serve?

AM mainline at SAT is fairly recent. I think they started with 2 or 3x weekly flights... and it seems according to Juventus that now they are doing only one weekly flight. I am glad they will be doing this daily! I should plan a weekend shopping trip soon.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

FYI for those of you following US-Mexico flights. SCK (Stockton, CA) is moving again on getting a FIS. There have been meetings that are resolving the previous blockage.

Looks like it might be possible for AM to start flights there late next year.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9215 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
"Tired of the endless delays at ORD and MDW? Come use our uncrowded, uncongested airport!!"

"chirp... chirp... chirp... ribbit..."

That is what GYY sounds like now; think of what could be if MX, Delta, others come in and take advantage...

*mimmicks general conversation sfx*



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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3043 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10):
In any case, there was not much MX service from MDW, was there? It was MDW-GDL or MDW-CUN, I am not sure which of the two.

Mexicana flew MDW-GDL, MDW-ZCL and MDW-MLM.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7587 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

Thanks for the info Mexicana757; quite logical that they served the three biggest ethnical markets from MDW.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2455 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

AM was flying one per week MEX-SAT on tuesdays which I never understood (which market are you looking for with 1x week on tuesdays?) Apparently they will go daily starting November...

AM632 MEX-SAT 10:50-12:50
AM633 SAT-MEX 14:00-16:05

Regarding MX's interest in Gary, I don't think they will run a profitable flight. MDW was a disaster for MX, which was started only to compete against TZ's new flight to GDL. They finally realize that having two stations in Chicago was too expensive specially when MDW could not provide connections like ORD thanks to AA's hub.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7587 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

Quoting Rojo (Reply 15):
MDW could not provide connections like ORD thanks to AA's hub.

Or more appropriately, UA's hub. Back when MX flew to MDW (2002 or so), it was a Star member and, therefore, a UA partner.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

Quoting Rojo (Reply 15):
Regarding MX's interest in Gary, I don't think they will run a profitable flight.

Agree. They should look at places like PHX, ATL, PHL, not a small airport in Chicago that nobody knows about.


User currently offlineFlyBoy84 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 382 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 17):
Agree. They should look at places like PHX, ATL, PHL, not a small airport in Chicago that nobody knows about.

At one point, weren't they considering STL  Confused

Once the East Terminal FIS is renovated, MX could CERTAINLY get some use out of it.


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

I had no idea that MDW has a Port-of-Entry Facility.
Given the large Mexican population in the Great Chicagoland area, It would be of no surprise to see a Mexican airline fly to MDW, MKE or even GYY.
IMHO, If GYY is to have a Port-of-Entry facility, GYY Chicagoland-México flights would work; Same for MKE-México flights.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 19):
I had no idea that MDW has a Port-of-Entry Facility.

Yep. TZ did a lot of flights MDW flights to/from Mexico and the Carribean back in the day.


User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting Jimbo83 (Reply 4):
but how long has AeroMexico been flying to San Antonio and what city/cities do they serve?



Quoting Rojo (Reply 15):
on tuesdays which I never understood (which market are you looking for with 1x week on tuesdays?) Apparently they will go daily starting November...

My mom flew this route in july and she told me that both inbound and outbound flights were totally full. And that the times of arrival and departure are very comfortable.



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User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2455 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3992 times:

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 21):
My mom flew this route in july and she told me that both inbound and outbound flights were totally full. And that the times of arrival and departure are very comfortable.

On the other side, I flew MX MEX-SAT-MEX during the first week of september and loads were aprox 45 passengers for the inbound and 30 for the outbound flight. Both legs A320...


User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Does anyone one why MX cancelled most of its nonstop flights GDL-ORD??
there used to be 3 and now there's only one at a very inconvenient time....

Was not GDL-ORD nonstop one of the most profitable routes for MX??

Weird...

FC



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 17):
Agree. They should look at places like PHX, ATL, PHL, not a small airport in Chicago that nobody knows about.

Well, it looks like that airport, which is actually in another state, doesn't even have an FIS, so it doesn't really make a difference. Still, I am guessing that MX would be aiming at the large Mexican population in the Chicagoland area, which dwarfs those of Atlanta and Philadelphia. As far as Phoenix goes, it is already pretty well served to Mexico, with flights to MEX, GDL, HMO, MTY, GYM, ACA, CUN, ZIH, LOS, MZT, and PVR



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25 Ghost77 : Most probably to re-route them in other routes or stations due to fleet shortage. More over, the virtually extra 5 A320s system they placed in action
26 Orbis : Would you mind elaborate a little further?? OTOH, Tomorrow (sun oct 22nd) I will be flying MX004 MEX-JFK in C. I was surprised to find out that both
27 Ghost77 : Yes, well I refered to small incidents as issues you might have constantly all days. Perhaps your plane landed @ MEX and you have to change something
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