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New TSA Procedures For Airport Employees?  
User currently offlineQXRamperMEII From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 93 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4781 times:

I apologize if this has been brought up already...

Over the last few days I've noticed (and been a part of) random TSA searches of on-duty airport employees badging through the security doors at PDX. We get the same level of inspection as travelling pax...hand wanded for metal, bags searched, etc. However, our same rules apply for employees. I was walking through with my normal large Coffee People cup and the guy held it for me while I took off my steel-toed ramp boots because they (surprise!) pinged the hand wand...

Is this just a PDX thing, or is it a new change across the country?

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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4783 times:

Better yet, why don't TSA employees ever get screened??


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User currently offlineQXRamperMEII From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 1):
Better yet, why don't TSA employees ever get screened??

They do...when they have to hold up thier badge when they walk through the exit chute at the checkpoint !  wink 


User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

This is a national thing. Started cuple weeks ago. They pick the access doors at random and screen all employees coming through the door a for a couple hours each day. Airport police offficers are with or close to the TSA team at all times. The is also at least one Federal Air Marshall assigned to the TSA team at my airport.

User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

I have not been searched at IND yet.


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User currently offlineIMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4441 times:

Is that to say that screening of all staff entering a past-security area is NOT standard in the US? That would amaze me... In AMS everyone entering has to go through a metal detector, have their belongings x-rayed and even if the detector doesn't go off we're subject to random hand-searches....

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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 5):
In AMS everyone entering has to go through a metal detector, have their belongings x-rayed and even if the detector doesn't go off we're subject to random hand-searches....

Yes, but over there in Europe, your security screening is actually worth a damn (saying this from all of two times that I've been there). Over here it's pathetic. Anyone could sneak a bladder of gasoline through the security checkpoint with a minimum of fuss, even if they got the pat down and full meal deal. Here they focus on what isn't the problem (liquid explosives) and come up with half-cocked ideas that don't do a thing to increase security (restricting liquids to 3 oz. in a clear plastic bag, DUMBEST RULE EVER).



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 5):
Is that to say that screening of all staff entering a past-security area is NOT standard in the US? That would amaze me... In AMS everyone entering has to go through a metal detector, have their belongings x-rayed and even if the detector doesn't go off we're subject to random hand-searches....

In the States, it is all theatre and no real security. It is just to make people feel like the government is protecting them so that they will vote for the incumbent politicians. No effort whatsoever is directed at real threats -- unless they happen to make for a good show.


User currently offlineSkyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

If someone wanted to do something, they could've done it already. But a note to mention. At MKE employees riding in company vechicals, from outside the airport SIDA area to inside the fence, the sheriffs only make the driver swipe their card and don't even bother to card the passenger(s). There is no attept to check the vechicals, it's a huge joke. The only exception are catering trucks, but then they only pop the back door to check the truck doesn't have illegals.  Wink I mean, I guess any other employee doesn't have access to airplanes...hehe.

[Edited 2006-10-21 04:20:20]

User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

I havent been screened yet but I have seen signs at various secure doors at PIT saying anyone passing into the sterile area through these doors is subject so search.


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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 days ago) and read 4149 times:

MDW has become about as bad as being a regular passenger. its really ridiciouls.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 days ago) and read 4138 times:

Next thing you know they will be freezing the latex gloves before they stick them up your woo-ha.

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 9):
but I have seen signs at various secure doors at PIT saying anyone passing into the sterile area through these doors is subject so search

Those have been pretty generic in the past and I think that has allways been the rule. Only in the past the airport nazi's actually believed that after the 10 years worth of background checks and references that passengers don't have to go through actually meant that airport employee's could actually be trusted.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 7):
In the States, it is all theatre and no real security

It used to be real security, and then the TSA came around and it became really bad Off-Broadway Theatre.



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User currently offlineSocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 528 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

I cant stand the TSA, or terrorist support agency, or thousands standing around agency, or thousands stupid asshole agency. I find it funny that a TSA rep only is required to go through security once during a shift. So if they go on one of their many government breaks throughout the day and leave for an hour when they return they can bypass security?? What makes them better than an airline rep that goes through the same back round check that TSA does. If anything there should be more strict rules on TSA screeners, when is the last time you heard of an airline agent getting arrested? I work for the government also, a much better agency than the TSA and I have to take off my tennis shoes if I want to go through security?? So stupid. I just cant believe that if they go through the metal detector once on their 10 hour shift they can just bypass it for the rest of the day and enter straight into the sterile area.. What are they thinking? Oh yeah, its the TSA they dont.

User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2128 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 9):
I havent been screened yet but I have seen signs at various secure doors at PIT saying anyone passing into the sterile area through these doors is subject so search.

That place is nuts. They make you walk up the jetway through the terminal and back down, even if you're swapping to the aircraft parked right next to you. Nothing like walking 300 yards instead of 30.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 8):
At MKE employees riding in company vechicals, from outside the airport SIDA area to inside the fence, the sheriffs only make the driver swipe their card and don't even bother to card the passenger(s). There is no attept to check the vechicals, it's a huge joke.

Same is true @ ATL. I used to work for a magazine distributor that stocks the newsstands there and in the two years I worked for the company, the rent-a-cops that worked the security gates on the NLVRs and the access gates onto the airport searched our trucks a grand total of zero times. The only vehicles that get searched are vehicles being escorted onto the airport property. The only problem our employees ever had were with the TSA folks at security. At ATL, there is an access door by the main security checkpoint that those with SIDA badges could use. I had used it dozens of times over the years, then one day a TSA Stormtrooper informed one of our guys that those with concessionaire badges couldn't use that door. He had just come from renewing his SIDA badge (Concessionaire badges were only 1 year badges so we had to get them renewed every year) and the badge office requires leaving the sterile area. Everyone that has a SIDA badge goes through the same 10 year background check, it doesn't matter if they work for an airline or a vendor. We also had problems getting new hires onto the concourse as well. What's screwed up is that employees who had non-SIDA badges pending could be escorted into the sterile area, yet those who had SIDA badges pending couldn't. Our boss would have a letter from the head of the airport security office saying that our company was allowed to escort new-hires into the sterile area, but the TSA would sometimes not allow our folks to escort them in.


User currently offlineBigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

They are also randomly searching employees in the terminal area as well. Not just at access doors, Quite embarrasing if you ask me.


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