BPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 521 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2279 times:
Hi Everyone,
after reading along for some time as a non-member finally decided to join. So here is my first post. Any advice is highly appreciated.
We will be spending X-mas and New Years with my family in Florida. Booked return tickets from SYD with UA in to MIA. Routing is
Dec. 6, 06
UA 870: SYD - ORD with plane change in SFO / Arrival ORD 18:08
UA 1460: ORD - MIA departing 19:00
Jan. 4, 07
UA 1553: MIA - ORD / Arrival ORD 17:58
UA 863: ORD - SYD with plane change in SFO / Departing 18:30
Have been through ORD many time while living in the States and personally think 52 minutes and especially 28 minutes transit on the return flight are very short for ORD. As this is the itinerary UA offered when booking does that mean they will pay for the hotel if we miss our connections in ORD ?
Doug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3161 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2262 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Thread starter): does that mean they will pay for the hotel if we miss our connections in ORD ?
Nope, not if its beyond their control (weather, customs, ATC, etc). On the way up you can always get on a later flight, but on the way down you might be boned, (especialy with 28 minutes to switch terminals)
You know, when I called up UA for a short connection, they said that it was not a legal connection and put me through with different routing, so calling them might help. If it is the last flight of the day, than I don't know what would happen.
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ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Thread starter): UA 870: SYD - ORD with plane change in SFO / Arrival ORD 18:08
UA 1460: ORD - MIA departing 19:00
Cuts it close, but I've had closer at ORD with UA . . . you will not have to leave the secure section. I've managed a change of plane from F14 to C23 in under a half hour . . . . no time to do anything but get from inbound to outbound flight. Luggage made it as well.
BPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2238 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 2): they said that it was not a legal connection and put me through with different routing, so calling them might help
Good idea. Will give UA a call.
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3): Another bit of advice . . . do not bother with that useless shuttle from E3 to C9. You can walk it quicker than that shuttle can carry you . . .
Thanks. Will keep that in mind. Forgot to mention that we will be traveling with an infant which could hold us up a bit.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 5): Forgot to mention that we will be traveling with an infant which could hold us up a bit.
Yup, might slow you down . . . still, it took me 15 minutes to make F14 to C23 at a brisk walk by myself. You'll miss pre-boarding for your MIA flight for certain, but likely make the flight.
You should call UA for your return. 32 minutes is not a legal connection IMO. Even worse with an infant. They should reschedule you at no expense to an earlier MIA-ORD flight.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2220 times:
I'm not sure what the equipment is on the ORD-SFO flight on 4 January, but if it's a big widebody, you may have a real easy connection. Ted flights arrive at the high B gates, and a fair number of widebodies leave from B14-B16.
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BPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6): You should call UA for your return. 32 minutes is not a legal connection IMO. Even worse with an infant. They should reschedule you at no expense to an earlier MIA-ORD flight.
Called UA and asked about options. UA person said he could only offer to put me on the much earlier non-stop MIA-ORD UA 1453 which gets in to ORD at 10:54 AM.
As I am not very keen on spending 7 1/2 hours at ORD asked if he could put us on flight MIA-CLT-SFO (UA 2078 & UA 2650 operated by US) to catch UA 863 in SFO but he stated he could not do that.
Guess leave the booking as it is and try again at check-in. Otherwise will just try making the connection in ORD and, in the worst case, spend a UA financed night in ORD
COewrAAtysAZ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2201 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 8): Guess leave the booking as it is and try again at check-in. Otherwise will just try making the connection in ORD and, in the worst case, spend a UA financed night in ORD
Do NOT count on it one bit. I promise you, they will not pay.
Can they not rebook you on a flight through DEN or IAD?
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BPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2186 times:
Quoting COewrAAtysAZ (Reply 10): Can they not rebook you on a flight through DEN or IAD?
As stated they would only book me on the earlier flight UA 1453 in to ORD but I do not want to sit in ORD 7 1/2 hours. They said they can't re-book via IAD or DEN or CLT as I suggested.
USFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1786 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2167 times:
Try this:
UA9624 MIA-MCO
UA277 MCO-LAX
UA839 LAX-SYD
You might do better going to the airport and enquiring there, as the agents there have quite a bit more lattitude than reservations agents (who are most likely outsourced)
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2155 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6): You should call UA for your return. 32 minutes is not a legal connection IMO. Even worse with an infant. They should reschedule you at no expense to an earlier MIA-ORD flight.
I am pretty sure the legal connection time at ORD is 29 minutes.
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Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2082 times:
Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 13): I am pretty sure the legal connection time at ORD is 29 minutes.
On United on-line, I am pretty sure its longer There is no way you can get off a 737 at C 28 row 19 and get on a UAEX on the F in 29 minutes OR visa-versa.
Now I know you are going to come back and tell me about the van than goes between the C and the E-F. Thats a 9 pax bus and at hub-time, there is a line. You can walk it faster but NOT with and infant.
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N353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 739 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2073 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 8): Otherwise will just try making the connection in ORD and, in the worst case, spend a UA financed night in ORD
Just so you know, your worst case would be that your flight pushes 3 minutes late and is then put on ground stop by ATC for an hour. United will say they delay is ATC's fault and tell you to have a nice night in chicago - at your own expense.
(and if it's WORST case, they'll probably mishandle your bag too)
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8739 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Quoting Doug_Or (Reply 1): On the way up you can always get on a later flight, but on the way down you might be boned, (especialy with 28 minutes to switch terminals)
28 minutes is really short to switch terminals, but that isn't the case in this instance. All domestic mainline and Ted flights arrive and depart from terminal 1. You can get between any two gates in terminal 1 in ten minutes if you keep your pace up. Concourse B and C are fairly easy to navigate. It's a bit of a trek to the United Express gates in terminal 2 however.
Quoting BPS3458 (Thread starter): UA 1553: MIA - ORD / Arrival ORD 17:58
UA 863: ORD - SYD with plane change in SFO / Departing 18:30
Have been through ORD many time while living in the States and personally think 52 minutes and especially 28 minutes transit on the return flight are very short for ORD
28 isn't enough. But you have 32. While still short, it is legal.
Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 8): Guess leave the booking as it is and try again at check-in. Otherwise will just try making the connection in ORD and, in the worst case, spend a UA financed night in ORD
UA won't finance it. The vast majority of delays though ORD are caused by weather and ATC. Unless it is a maintenance problem, United is going to give you a list of phone numbers for hotels in either ORD or SFO depending on where you end up spending the night. There are later flights to SFO although they won't help you much since you'd miss your flight to SYD.
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PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2047 times:
As much as I love United, I would NEVER allow anyone to connect through ORD unless they absolutely had to.
There is almost no time of the year when weather delays and ATC ground holds do not plague the airport. Whether it is spring and summer (with massive thunderstorms) or fall and winter (where snow, although quickly cleared, becomes the enemy), traversing ORD is a nightmare.
I pay extra to avoid connecting at ORD unless there is no other way.
That being said, I hope that all goes well for you. Next time, you might want to try QF to LAX and then AA metal non-stop from there. While LAX is another airport I try and avoid, at least the international terminal is adjacent to T4, AA's terminal, so the distances are not that bad.
I hope that your trip goes through without a hitch!!
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Nudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 20 Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2039 times:
Inbound you are, sorry to say that, quite screwed. You must be really lucky if that short time works with immigration, terminal change and also customs...
Outbound, that looks like a long enough period. No luggage rechecking, no terminal change, and quite obviously no immigration...
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11310 posts, RR: 17 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
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An FA told me that under IATA rules, if a passenger misses their flight that the airline have ticketed them on, and the passenger misses the flight due to late arrival of your inbound flight, then the airline has to re-book you on the next flight at their expense, which is usually more expensive then the original booking price for that flight.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
Quoting BPS3458 (Thread starter): Have been through ORD many time while living in the States and personally think 52 minutes and especially 28 minutes transit on the return flight are very short for ORD
I think you'll be OK, but maybe a little winded when you get on the flight. If you go onto UAL.com you can check on your gate through 'Flight Status' Right now you'll come into ORD at gate C18 which is right near the Tram to take you to your next gate to MIA.... B20. Headed back home you'll come into ORD at gate B22 and depart to SYD at gate C17...again right where you get back off the Tram. Airlines tend to run flights off the same gates for extended periods of times so this still make hold true....but CHECK YOUR gate info a day or so before.
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Yup, might slow you down . . . still, it took me 15 minutes to make F14 to C23 at a brisk walk by myself. You'll miss pre-boarding for your MIA flight for certain, but likely make the flight.
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