RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4179 posts, RR: 45 Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2795 times:
Hi folks,
I have heard a lot about Conviasa . The tail on the livery is also orange like with Viasa.
1)Is this airline a new attempt to restart a national airline like viasa was or is it some private group that bought the name Viasa and modiifed it so as to give it a distinct identity ?
2)Since when does this new airline exist?
thanks in advance
Regards
BM
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2516 posts, RR: 34 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2782 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): Is this airline a new attempt to restart a national airline like viasa was or is it some private group that bought the name Viasa and modiifed it so as to give it a distinct identity ?
As Viasa, Conviasa is also state-owned. The govt didn't want to restart Viasa because it would have to deal with all the debts and employee pensions that Viasa had when it died, so they picked the "Conviasa" name.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2730 times:
Conviaso and Viaso are arch enemies, two sides of the same coin. They considered the name Bizarro Viaso, but cooler heads prevailed, and those who proposed that name were shot.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Captaink From Mexico, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2710 times:
Grenada is indeed a niche market. Only certain airlines can make it there. Imagine of all the places in the Caribbean, Conviasa flies, GND and POS are the only two. Conviasa started GND when the airline just opened and had one DHC7. I remember meeting the flights, and trying to communicate with those pretty Venezuelan Flight Attendants. Now that I can speak better Spanish I need to go back to that job..
I assume the Gov't pumps a good bit of money into Conviasa, cause from a Dash 7 to their current fleet which includes 737s and A340s, I think the airline grew rather quickly.
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 55 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2710 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4): Conviaso and Viaso are arch enemies, two sides of the same coin. They considered the name Bizarro Viaso, but cooler heads prevailed, and those who proposed that name were shot.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2706 times:
When you add the prefix CON to a word, you get the meaning against, anti, not, among others.
So the name means: NOT VIASO, or ANTI-VIASO. Thus the arch enemy.
Bizarro comes from comic books. The Bizarro world is a parallel yet opposite world. There was even a "Bizarro" episode of the TV show Seinfeld, where the gang ran into a same yet opposite group of people like themselves...
It was just a joke!
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
AirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2703 times:
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 6): Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Conviaso and Viaso are arch enemies, two sides of the same coin. They considered the name Bizarro Viaso, but cooler heads prevailed, and those who proposed that name were shot.
= I dont get it.
Viasa and Con-viasa? My spanish is bad but maybe the wordplay doesn't work out.. The reference is to the idea in comic books where people go into an alternate universe that's exactly opposite to the one they came from.
Conviasa (Consorcio Venezolano de Industrias Aeronauticas y Servicios Aereos) is a Venezuelan state-owned airline based in Porlamar on Venezuela's Margarita Island. It plans to fly to international destinations in the Caribbean, South America, Germany, France, and Spain.
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Captaink From Mexico, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2660 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7): When you add the prefix CON to a word, you get the meaning against, anti, not, among others.
Considering that it is a Venezuelan airline, I think we need to think in spanish. In the case, CON means WITH, and that just blows a hole in your theory..:D
Lamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2631 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7): the prefix CON to a word, you get the meaning against, anti, not,
Sorry, you must be confused, which also shows in your persistent use of ViasO instead of ViasA Do not mix up the prefix 'con-' with 'contra' the latter does mean 'against' but 'con' means 'with' as Captaink already pointed out.
DZ09 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 481 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2562 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7): When you add the prefix CON to a word, you get the meaning against, anti, not, among others.
I think in Spanish con means with, and maybe in the context of this airline, it means yes we're the same airline, just a different name to escape our past responsibilities.
Aviationmaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2464 posts, RR: 38 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2554 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7): When you add the prefix CON to a word, you get the meaning against, anti, not, among others.
So the name means: NOT VIASO, or ANTI-VIASO. Thus the arch enemy.
Bizarro comes from comic books. The Bizarro world is a parallel yet opposite world. There was even a "Bizarro" episode of the TV show Seinfeld, where the gang ran into a same yet opposite group of people like themselves...
It was just a joke!
*ba-dum-tish*
What happened to the A342, and didn't they also have plans to aquire B767s?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2548 times:
Quoting Captaink (Reply 10): Considering that it is a Venezuelan airline, I think we need to think in spanish.
Sorry, but in this case CON means Consorcio, as it is an acronym.
And CON as a prefix means "with" in English to, but CON alone is slang for against, anti, etc.
Anyway, it was a joke, and this is an english language forum, and just stop taking things so seriously! There are more important things to discuss, like why Airbus is way better than Boeing, right?!
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Captaink From Mexico, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2540 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15): Anyway, it was a joke, and this is an english language forum, and just stop taking things so seriously! There are more important things to discuss, like why Airbus is way better than Boeing, right?!
Didn't take you seriously dude, I was just having fun blowing up your theory, joking as well.
Yeah I like your idea for a topic, but it is clear that Boeing is better. But we better not start before we kicked of a.net or something.
DZ09 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 481 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2535 times:
Quoting Captaink (Reply 16): But we better not start before we kicked of a.net or something.
Speaking of being kicked off, you'd better watch it. I was banned last week for 3 days for posting a silly comment. Oh yeah, they are watching..... I went through some serious withdrawal, I couldn't get my fix for 3 days. It seemed an eternity....
Adriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1112 posts, RR: 21 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 12): Do you know if their service is any good ?
All I can say about Conviasa is I just felt like giving them a try for the first time CCS-BLA-CCS this same week finishing today. Big mistake.
Everything - I mean everything, apart from actually getting from point A to B and then back to A without falling down from the sky, went wrong. Making a reservation was a nightmare (you will notice the website ONLY provides flight information but you cannot reserve - much less purchase tickets on-line); both flights were horribly delayed, planes were aging and dirty, ground and on-board crew had an attitude -"hello", "please", "thank you" or "you are welcome" do not belong to their vocabulary, even for responding-, and the point of sale in CCS was down, which forced me to pay for my ticket in cash right then and there at the counter. If you don't want to be ripped off, then you must change your hard currency to Bolívares in the rampant black market - with all the risks this entail.
The 3- hour delay in the return flight made me loose my connection with CM to PTY. Try getting a place to stay overnight in Maiquetía on Friday night without prior reservations! NOTHING had an opening. My choices were try to exit via BOG, make the 2-3 hour trip to Caracas only to come back early next morning, or stay the night in a cafeteria bench with all my luggage.
In case you're wondering, I chose BOG - which added an extra $300 to my trip cost. And this, only after making the standby list after the flight had closed. Oh, well...
Indeed, the little I got to see from Venezuela this time is quite different from what I remember from a few years ago - most specially the mood of the people.
A couple of positive notes, notwithstanding: the new sections of CCS international terminal are fantastic, elegant and functional (I arrived to CCS at 7:00 in MX's nonstop flight from MEX); amongst the best I have seen regarding airports worldwide. Also, I got to tour the new Guanta model customhouse. It is amazing what the SENIAT has done there in terms of technology and investment - let's hope it is put to good use.
But people do not look happy, as they used to a few years back. What has that monkey done to the famous Venezuelan smiles?
Erikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2394 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 12): Do you know if their service is any good ?
Actually I 've had great experiences with them flying to PMV and MAR. Great service, always on time. The only thing is that I can't book online, I had to go to a travel agency, but they are working on that.
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