Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18820 posts, RR: 54 Posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4052 times:
I have found a number of BA domestic and European routes from LGW, but does anyone have a complete list, or a map, showing all of BA's domestic and Europe routes from LGW, including those op. by GB? Thanks a lot.
[Edited 2006-10-20 16:16:36]
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Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18820 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3870 times:
Thanks.
With ever cheaper and quicker (and, if travelling to and from the cities, more convenient) trains from London to Manchester and vice-versa, how is BA's LGW-MAN-LGW doing in terms of demand and yield? It currently operates 7x daily flights (during the week; 4x on Saturdays and Sundays) using 733s/734s/735s. Should these very valuable slots, what with the sheer shortage of them at LGW, be more effectively used on other existing routes, in terms of increasing frequencies, or to launch brand-new routes?
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SpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
Dont think it did that bad, volume was there, not sure on the yield but was always meant to be a supplimentary serivce for the summer only. Will quite possibly be reinstated for next summer, haven't heard anything to the contrary at the min.
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3542 times:
GIven that MAN is also served from LHR, LCY and STN (and, with the exception of STN, with pretty high frequencies), there still seems to be sufficient demand. I would expect LGW to be the least effected from the trains as LGW will mainly cater for the south of the river crowd.
Any insight how much connceting traffic BA has on its domestic routes to LGW compared to the domestic routes to LHR ?
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3391 times:
Domestic destinations from LGW are INV, ABZ, EDI, GLA, NCL, MAN, IOM and JER
Domestic destinations from LHR are ABZ, EDI, GLA, NCL, MAN... Anything else ?
So it is 8:5 (admittedly, the LGW-exclusive destinations are fairly small markets....).
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6617 posts, RR: 17 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3369 times:
BA's 737 fleet - all based at LGW - comprises:
5 733s
18 734s
9 735s
No 319/320s are permanently based at LGW but one and (?) sometimes (?) two 319s are effectively based at LGW by rotating aircraft through the overnight stopping 319 services from both LHR and LGW to MAN.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18820 posts, RR: 54 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3368 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 11): BA's 737 fleet - all based at LGW - comprises:
5 733s
18 734s
9 735s
No 319/320s are permanently based at LGW but one and (?) sometimes (?) two 319s are effectively based at LGW by rotating aircraft through the overnight stopping 319 services from both LHR and LGW to MAN.
Thanks VV.
Do you know how many 320s/321s GB bases at LGW?
Cheers.
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A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4103 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3319 times:
Hey there
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2): With ever cheaper and quicker (and, if travelling to and from the cities, more convenient) trains from London to Manchester and vice-versa, how is BA's LGW-MAN-LGW doing in terms of demand and yield? It currently operates 7x daily flights (during the week; 4x on Saturdays and Sundays) using 733s/734s/735s.
Demand on some flights is excellent. The 9am departure LGW-MAN, I believe the 290(?) is usually full and the 2911 especially MAN-LGW in evenings is always full from what I hear and own experiences. However, the early morning 2901(?) LGW-MAN is never that full from experience and similarly with the last MAN-LGW 2913. I'm afraid I don't know about the daytime services.
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8): How many 733s/734s/734s does BA base @ LGW?
Just a small correction, it's 19 -400's since the return of G-DOCB from its Air One lease
Quoting VV701 (Reply 11): No 319/320s are permanently based at LGW but one and (?) sometimes (?) two 319s are effectively based at LGW by rotating aircraft through the overnight stopping 319 services from both LHR and LGW to MAN.
A single 319 was based at LGW for certain periods of time (and 2 at others) and operates a certain daily pattern, always operating the first MAN-LGW and the busy 2903 service. However, at the moment I believe it has gone back to LHR for a few weeks, though i'm not sure. I certainly know it will be back.
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VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6617 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3280 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 12): Do you know how many 320s/321s GB bases at LGW?
I am not sure that there is an answer to this. All their aircraft seem to make not that irregular appearances at LHR. While the BA 319 that operates out of LGW in
actually overnights at MAN and then flies MAN-LGW (BA2901) LGW-MAN-LGW (BA2904/05) LGW-EDI-LGW (BA2938/39) LGW-ABZ-LGW (BA2926/27) LGW-MAN (BA2914). At MAN (as I said before) it frequently interchanges with the 319 that operates the last LHR-MAN service of the day. Effectively it is not really based at LGW but at MAN. But as we all know that is BA Connect territory. So it is a bit like the BA MAN-JFK-MAN 763.
But as far GT is concerned they operate flights to Gibraltar, Malaga and Marrakech/Casablanca from LHR. But if you consider the GIB flights at LHR, BA6898 leaves at 0730 hours while BA6899 arrives back at 2215 hours. But what returns does not always appear to be the same aircraft. The one operating BA6898 then operates BA6903, GIB-LGW, arriving back at LGW at 1355. This may or may not be the same aircraft that operates BA6906, LGW-GIB, departing at 1555. But the aircraft that operates this flight then does operate the evening flight (BA6899) back to LHR. So this aircraft that overnights at LHR and sets off for GIB the following morning is really based at LGW or, perhaps, temporarilly at LHR!
With most of GT's other LGW flights being once, twice or three times a week and with interchanges like that described above, I think that giving a straight answer to your question is as difficult as getting an answer to the question 'How long is a bit of string?' But hopefully some one else will disprove this.
A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4103 posts, RR: 53 Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3051 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 14): actually overnights at MAN and then flies MAN-LGW (BA2901) LGW-MAN-LGW (BA2904/05) LGW-EDI-LGW (BA2938/39) LGW-ABZ-LGW (BA2926/27) LGW-MAN (BA2914).
Yes, see
Quoting A340600 (Reply 13): always operating the first MAN-LGW
Quoting VV701 (Reply 14): Effectively it is not really based at LGW but at MAN. But as we all know that is BA Connect territory. So it is a bit like the BA MAN-JFK-MAN 763.
Apart from the nightstop though, it operates mostly out of LGW and with LGW crews which is why it is really thought of as LGW based.
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Speedbirdcrew From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3037 times:
Quoting A340600 (Reply 13): A single 319 was based at LGW for certain periods of time (and 2 at others) and operates a certain daily pattern, always operating the first MAN-LGW
It was nightstopping in EDI all summer not man..... However its back at LHR now
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6617 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2961 times:
Quoting Trintocan (Reply 20): I think they are served from LHR as well. Does BA serve BFS or Belfast City?
I don't think so. If you want to fly from LHR to Belfast by BA I think you need to go via Manchester. So:
LHR-MAN BA1386 (320) MAN-BHD (Belfast City) (BA7603) (DH8)
has an elapsed time of 2 hrs 30 mins.
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
BA axed its LHR-BFS a couple of years ago amidst a considerable outcry ("BA abandoning N.I." etc. etc.) from the local community. LHR is nowadays served by bmi from BHD.
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