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How Is YYZ As A Cargo Hub?  
User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

There have lately been a few more carriers starting cargo operations into YYZ, Cathay started 744 service back in September plus Air Canadas MD11s from Gemini, Martinair, etc...are any other carriers interested in sending freighters in here to YYZ or is there just no demand for it? JAL Cargo or EVA Air im suprised are not here, but even Atlas, Kalitta, etc...

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User currently offlineBa777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 673 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3277 times:

Well Eva Cargo was here, back in 2001 I believe? MD-11 service.. didn't last long for some reason.

YYZ would be super for a cargo hub IMO. The only issue I see is the high landing fees, but then again, that's for any airline operating here.

In the past few years, we have seen a dramatic increase, from two FedEx's and one UPS, to at least 4 daily FedEx's, two UPS, one DHL/aStar, Cathay Cargo (3 times weekly), Korean Cargo (3 times weekly) plus the daily Gemini and World trijets.

From a spotting perspective, I'd love to see Atlas and Kalitta.



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User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1363 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3265 times:

Air Canada uses MD-11s from World Airways (2 to be exact) plus the occasional DC-10 as well.

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

Quoting Ba777-236 (Reply 1):
YYZ would be super for a cargo hub IMO. The only issue I see is the high landing fees, but then again, that's for any airline operating here.

While the high landing fees are a deterrent, the overnight curfew at YYZ is the main reason why YYZ is not a good location for a cargo hub (airline belly cargo excepted). This is why YHM is the Golden Horseshoe's cargo hub. YYZ is however good for long-distance O&D cargo as evidenced by the cargo carriers listed above.


User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

when AC receive the freighters are they gonna have Air Canada Cargo written on the fuselage??

User currently offlineBA777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 673 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3070 times:

Quoting RicardoFG (Reply 4):
when AC receive the freighters are they gonna have Air Canada Cargo written on the fuselage??

I don't see why not! They've done it in the past with the stretch DC-8's and 727-100's.

Even the MD-11's have a little logo on them:


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User currently offlineSB From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3061 times:

Call me crazy, but I would think YMX would be an ideal cargo hub...

No curfew, low landing fees (compared to YYZ anyway), a deserted airport with reasonable road access, plenty of apron space...

Then again I'm also a die-hard YMX supporter... I grew up with that airport.

S.



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User currently offlineFxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7191 posts, RR: 86
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3036 times:
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Our Canada hub is YYZ. Send daily A300 and DC10s from MEM.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26372 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

Quoting SB (Reply 6):
Call me crazy, but I would think YMX would be an ideal cargo hub...

It already is  Wink



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User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

maybe when MP takes delivery of its 744F next month we will have a shot at the 742 back in YYZ of MP??

User currently offlineDrgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 608 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

A bunch of Canadian airports promote themselves heavily in the cargo world (in addition to the top 8, Gander, Hamilton, Mirabel, Prince George and St. John's). One issue is bilaterals.

There has been some stuff in the press about this lately. Canada's bilaterals are pretty restrictive. Luxair is just one cargo carrier that has said it would like to increase service to Canada but has had trouble in getting the right air service environment from the federal government.


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