RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4179 posts, RR: 45 Posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10211 times:
Hi folks
I am currently in Bolivia at my uncle's place.
He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?
Thanks in advance
Regards
BM
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11126 posts, RR: 63 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10206 times:
If they are just blank CDs and are not obviously dodgy copies with misprinted and forged labels on them then I don't see how they could stop you. There is no way that they would check every single CD, and anyway, they would not know that you didn't have all that music at home, and you had merely copied these for while you were away You should be ok with them.
TeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10124 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?
Well, it's not as if most of don't do this, but the fact is that it is illegal. You are taking a risk, but the probability of being caught is very small. Don't carry too many at one time, and you'd best have a player to go with your collection so that you can claim you brought them along on your travels.
BTW I'm not so sure you will able to play and DVD's that you copy. There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2. Second is that the two countries use different video encoding standards: Bolivia is NTSC, but Switzerland is PAL. I wouldn't put too much effort into copying DVD's unless you are sure you can play them.
DZ09 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 481 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10085 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): I am currently in Bolivia at my uncle's place.
He's got tons of good music and movies which I would like to copy to bring back to Switzerland. However, would I risk anything in doing so.
I know that if you buy contraband there is a risk you get a fine but do you risk anything for bringing CDs and eventually DVDs that you have copied for your own personal use ?
It is because of people like you that the music industry is losing billions of dollars a year...... Just kidding, I think you're safe, and I believe it is not illegal to copy music for one's personal use.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10070 times:
They have some new copy sniffing dogs out there, but they've found that they also can't distinguish between new DVDs/CDs and burned ones. The dogs are still useful though because they can alert agents to large shipments of DVDs/CDs, and if they are marked "baby milk" on the bill of lading, then they know something's up...
So, I wouldn't worry though. There is no law that says you must carry receipts for your goods, though also in some cases, it is not a bad idea to carry proof of ownership of high value items to prevent being assessed duty by some overzealous customs person...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
ATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10067 times:
It is illegal to copy music for another person, it is not illegal to make a copy for your own backup. None the less all you have to do is say they are data CD's. I travel with data CD's for work all of the time.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3082 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9979 times:
Quoting DZ09 (Reply 8): wouldn't go around bragging about that if I were you!
You think the Feds are going to read this and be waiting outside his house with guns drawn?
RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4179 posts, RR: 45 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9823 times:
Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2):
Well, it's not as if most of don't do this, but the fact is that it is illegal. You are taking a risk, but the probability of being caught is very small. Don't carry too many at one time, and you'd best have a player to go with your collection so that you can claim you brought them along on your travels.
BTW I'm not so sure you will able to play and DVD's that you copy. There are two problems. First, DVD's have "region codes" that are different: Bolivia is region 4 and Switzerland is region 2. Second is that the two countries use different video encoding standards: Bolivia is NTSC, but Switzerland is PAL. I wouldn't put too much effort into copying DVD's unless you are sure you can play them.
Good Luck! scared
have you heard of multizone DVD players ?
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
FlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9596 times:
If, in the slim chance anyone questions it, just tell them that you downloaded the songs to your computer and burned the songs to a CD so you could listen to the songs you wanted on a Discman. Plenty of people do this, especially cheap people like me who don't want to fork out the cash for an IPod.
SJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9587 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11): have you heard of multizone DVD players ?
Allmost all (if not all) DVD players can be made multizone, usually with the remote. You can search internet for the "hack" if you like. For example some (most?) Philips ones can be made multizone by opening the tray, pressing 789 OK 0 (where 0 is the zone)
PAL and NTSC can also be selected from the menu on a lot of DVD players, but once you change it -- it may be hard to change back because lets say you have an NTSC TV and change it to PAL, after the change you would need a PAL TV to see the setup menu to change back to NTSC (usually there is a secret reset somewhere in the owners manuel). Not all players will play all discs (NTSC/PAL) but for example a COBY for $49 will play about everything all regions and convert the standard (PAL/NTSC).
I am not sure why they bother with zones if they allow people to change them so easily, but I guess they expect most people won't know about it. BTW, there is a special zone for aircraft so aircraft can have movies before the reset of the world, although I don't know if it has ever been used.
Captaink From Mexico, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9568 times:
Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 13): And it is because of you our movie stars had to sell their Gulfstream 5's and buy Gulfstream 4's. Good job.
I still fly American in economy, they will live... HEHE.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9488 times:
I hope you're caught and face a hefty fine and/or prison time if you break the law, but sadly chances of you being caught are slim at best.
Music (and software) piracy should be punished with the same sentence as piracy on the high seas was in the past: summary execution by hanging or beheading, possibly after keelhauling.
MEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 751 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9479 times:
Just put them in a CD case in a laptop case or something like that and I am 99.9% sure they are going to careless if you have copied CDs or not. Trust me, I pass through AMS, CDG, MCO, LAX, GVA, and FRA many, many times per year and not once have they even spoken to me, the only thing they say is put all metals in the basket and go through the metal detector. They don't give a crap.
Thesorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1047 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9186 times:
Quoting Jwenting (Reply 19): I hope you're caught and face a hefty fine and/or prison time if you break the law, but sadly chances of you being caught are slim at best.
Music (and software) piracy should be punished with the same sentence as piracy on the high seas was in the past: summary execution by hanging or beheading, possibly after keelhauling.
Normally i'd think that that's a joke but in your case i'm not sure.
Dominic
ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2031 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9185 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 11): have you heard of multizone DVD players ?
I don't think the regional code is that much of a problem... not only can you get rid of that when you rip the DVD for burning purposes, but yes, you can usually make any DVD player multi-region.
However, I find that with my multi-region DVD player, it puts out an NTSC signal when the disc is NTSC and a PAL signal when the disc is PAL. As it's hooked up to an NTSC TV, I cannot watch the latter, unless I get the small 15in PAL TV I own out and hook it up...
I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
Jcded From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9087 times:
Switzerland is one of the countries where you can buy multizone countries in any electronics store.
At FNAC I bought a thomson DVD player and the multizone process was printed on a piece of paper on the side. For 90 CHF multizone and DiVX, wOOT wOOT.
Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3184 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8923 times:
Quoting PROSA (Reply 12): and you can get a pretty sharp edge.
Yeah its kinda tricky to break one, you can end up with the sharp edges in your eyes and skin.
There Are Those Who Believe That There May Yet Be Other Airlines Who Even Now Fight To Survive Beyond The Heavens
25 EMA747: I did a round the world trip 3 years ago and all I took were copied CDs from home so as not to scratch the originals. Didnt have any problems. Think o
26 WildcatYXU: Well, it depends on the country. In Canada it is perfectly legal, as long as the copies are not offered for sale. The reason for that is the copyrigh
27 NASCARAirforce: Don't forget Lars from Metallica too. He might come on your computer screen and say "You have been busted by LARS" like he did during the NAPSTER thi
28 WildcatYXU: I'm pretty sure that now he wishes he would never start the campaign on this topic.
29 Thomson735: Im really sure ull be ok with CD's. some of the pirated things ive taken on acft and nobody has cared Piracy is a fact of life, it will always happen
30 MEA-707: It is illegal to copy CDs or DVDs from others, in fact only your uncle is allowed to copy them for his own use as backup. But with hand written labels
31 Morvious: Depends on how much cd's you want to cary on with you? 200 Cd's and it will be suspicious ! If it are 1-10 cd's you can tell it are copies of CD's you
32 Virgin747: Beleive it or not..... If Canada catches you with knockoff movies and music. They nail you with duty on the "original" product. Through conversations
33 WildcatYXU: I really don't want to get into law disputes here, since I have to go to work, but I suggest to find the supreme court decision on that matter. CRA w
34 BOACVC10: idle thought, not a suggestion of any kind, but carrying information on CD-ROMs (any kind) is so cumbersome, if you have more than a few to keep trac
35 DL021: Oh, no...our movie stars still make their bank...they're just finding cheaper ways to make movies in the climate of lower cinema attendance and skyro
36 VonRichtofen: Getting a multi region DVD player, or decoding it is a piece of cake.
38 1stfl94: Be aware, copied CDs and DVDs do tend to be pretty s*** compared to the originals. My dad bought back four pirate DVDs from Malaysia. One only played
39 GuitrThree: Is it me, or am I the only one here that finds it a little bit odd that someone would basically post on an open world-wide read internet thread that s
40 N243NW: I wouldn't consider it to be a problem...I recently took a flight with a burned CD of Windows XP in my checked luggage. Not quite the same as a carry-
41 UAL757: I have an OPPO dvd player which does all regions! In fact...I got it yesterday! FedEX "misplaced" it!
42 Bond007: So did you! ....or were you showing us how it was misspelt I'm not sure I'd regret buying a pirate DVD just because of a spelling mistake! Jimbo
43 1stfl94: Whoops, well I think they spelt it even worse on the DVD. Anyway, it still was terrible to watch, the pirates ones I've seen tend to look like their
45 Mtyfreak: I highly doubt that someone would care enough to check what kind of cd's you're carrying never the less the "Legal Status" of them, You are free to ta
46 TeamAmerica: Yes, but I don't assume that everyone knows about DVD regions and such. Many posters above clearly do, but most people have no clue so I thought I'd
47 TrojanAE: Exactly, it's really easy to make your DVD player multizone, there are oodles of websites that will teach you how to do it. I'm sure glad you're not
48 TeamAmerica: Being poor sucks (I've been there) but does not give a person the right to steal. Besides, most of the people who pirate are not poor at all, they're
49 Bond007: So to summarize 1. To answer the thread title "Can I Carry Copied CDs On Board? " - the airline probably couldn't care less, and the security folks th
50 TrojanAE: That is true. I guess it also depends on the culture in which you were raised. A lot of people that download music or movies or whatnot, including my
51 RootsAir: on ething is buy pirate cd s and dvds the other to copy them from your uncle....so what's the criminal side in there
52 Swissgabe: I don't know where you will transit. Afaik Switzerland is one of the countries which is not very strict with fake and copied stuff (including CDs) as
53 N328KF: Just to be sure, in the U.S., even the TSA would not stop you for carrying copied CDs (plenty of people have legitimate copied CDs/DVDs, especially fo
54 MEA-707: What I wrote in reply 30, personal use only means use by your uncle. The artists and producers of this music, games and movies don't make money, whil
55 YULWinterSkies: What if you just ... burn them as mp3s on your laptop (assuming you own a laptop). That way, it will disappear in the middle of your own music collec
56 FLY2LIM: Wow, 55 replies for a non aviation topic where the basic answer to the question would be that NOBODY GIVES A DARN ABOUT COPIED CDS OR OTHER MEDIA. Sti
57 Bond007: Not really. If you put those songs on the laptop, it'll get proportionally heavier due to the size of the large files on the hard drive. I usually tr
59 Adam1115: Why is it illegal to simply carry copies? It's legal to MAKE copies of music you own, what if I don't want to haul my originals all over the world? H
60 SwissA330: regarding 'sharp' Cd's: Put it in towel,l blanket etc.... Shouldn't be that hard for someone to figure this out
Sponsor Message: 
From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4179 posts, 
From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11126 posts, 
You should be ok with them.
From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, 
From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2464 posts, 
, 21029 posts, 
From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3182 posts, 
From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, 
If this is from what I think it's from... I would hardly call Brittany Spears a Movie Star.
From Mexico, joined exactly 12 years ago today! 
From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, 
From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 751 posts, 
From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1047 posts, 
From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2031 posts, 
Printer friendly format 
