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User currently offlineTLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 589 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

An article in today's Atlanta Journal Constitution sums it up, delays are up at ATL due to the north runway repaving:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...ries/2006/10/21/1022metrunway.html

Hopefully, once this project is complete things will improve. I noticed the last few days that Delta has had tons of delays, but that's to be expected since they have the largest operation here.

This begs the question, will the same project be needed for the south runways?

I am flying out of ATL on Friday and I have my fingers crossed that my flight isn't delayed. I am flying to MCO on DL so I imagine from what I have heard my flight should be full. In the past I have almost always been delayed on every flight to and from ATL. I know this isn't necessarily the norm, but I just seem to catch the delayed flights. Just to be safe I planned a flight that gets in several hours before I have to be there.


Bill in ATL
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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

I noticed because my DEN-PHX flight today was a continuing service from an ATL-PHX flight, and I checked flightaware and my flight has been late due to late arriving aircraft from ATL pretty consistently for the past couple of weeks, and today was no exception.

User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

The evening ATL-TUS flight has been late for a long time now. The morning flight is sometimes delayed, but not as bad as the evening flight. Part of it has to do with it coming from DCA I think, because it usually leaves there late. About once every week or two the TUS flight operates with a 9000-series number because the other plane is so delayed and it is not surprising to see the flight arrive here 2 hours late.

User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):
was a continuing service from an ATL-PHX flight

I meant it was a continuing service from an ATL-DEN flight, making all of that flight ATL-DEN-PHX. My mistake.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting TLHFLA (Thread starter):
This begs the question, will the same project be needed for the south runways?

No. 8R/26L hadn't been rehabbed since 1969. 8L/26R was opened in 1986, and the south runways were rehabbed in 1985 (9L/27R when it was extended to 11,889 ft. And is going to be lengthened to around 13,000 feet into the near future.) and in 1999 (9R/27L). Some of the construction projects involved with the 8R/26L rehab is for an end-around taxiway that will allow a/c to taxi around the end of 8R.


User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

If the work is on schedule, 8R-26L will reopen in about 2wks. A little late for my flights through ATL, though. I'm connecting there this upcoming Thu and Sun. Maybe I'll get lucky, and won't experience lengthy delays. Time will tell.

AAflyguy


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

Its almost over, i toured the projects on friday and most of the runway is complete, the end around taxiway still has a long way to go.

The project is on schedule and i beleive the runway will re-open in early november. Pretty impressive for an entire new runway in 60 days.

Ill try and post pics later



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 6):
The project is on schedule and i beleive the runway will re-open in early november. Pretty impressive for an entire new runway in 60 days.

When they rebuilt 9R/27L back in '99, they did it in less than a month.


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting TLHFLA (Thread starter):
An article in today's Atlanta Journal Constitution sums it up, delays are up at ATL due to the north runway repaving

Also, if you check the FAA's information about the airport delays in the nation, you'll see that ATL is usually reporting delays because of either weather or runway construction. When you pair the two up, seeing that the city gets a lot of frontal movements going through it, you get massive delays.

Add the volume of traffic that they deal with and you'll have even more problems.  checkmark 



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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1913 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

I can tell you, when I went through ATL three weeks ago, I got to the gate and my flight was delayed 45 minutes, then, once on the plane, we had to sit there for an hour. The captain said it was for "incoming luggage from other flights". Still, I will say this, ever since my last flight with FL when I felt the customer service department mocked me, I refused to fly them. But as I sat there and watched FL bird after FL bird go by slowly I started thinking some of my business might be going back to FL, especially since I can fly RSW-IND direct instead of going through ATL.

User currently offlineManu From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 406 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

I got delayed by over a full hour on Thursday night, almost missed my connection in Charlotte. It was crazy, we left the gate about 5 minutes late and took off about 1:05 minutes later! That's insane.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 7):
When they rebuilt 9R/27L back in '99, they did it in less than a month.

Was that a rehab or a full depth reconstruction?

Typical pavement maintenance for a runway less than 20 years old is a rehab. A full depth reconstruction is typically for older runways or if there are failures deeper in the structure.

The 8R-26L is not the typical runway rehab.



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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 9):
But as I sat there and watched FL bird after FL bird go by slowly I started thinking some of my business might be going back to FL, especially since I can fly RSW-IND direct instead of going through ATL.

How do you know that those weren't even more delayed than yours. As you watch planes go by you don't have the slightest idea of what their scheduled departure time was. However I would choose to go nonstop instead of through any hub any day.



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3131 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

They have had the runway completely torn up to the rebar for several weeks now. It does look better than it had. Taxiing out for my flights today we did not have any real wait. We were number 1 and Number 4 on both outbound legs from the ATL.


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User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

If you have to connect through ATL, do so early in the AM...if you do so after 10-11am, you risk being delayed anywhere from 15-60 min. on average.

I do whatever I can to connect through CVG or even JFK if and when I fly DL. That is getting less and less, because I cannot stand ATL.


User currently offlineTLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 589 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

There are lots of delays today and the weather is perfect. Let's hope this project gets wrapped up soon!


Bill in ATL
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
Was that a rehab or a full depth reconstruction?

Typical pavement maintenance for a runway less than 20 years old is a rehab. A full depth reconstruction is typically for older runways or if there are failures deeper in the structure.

Full reconstruction. They pulled the old surface up in sections and hauled them to a site just south of the airport. They worked almost 24/7 to get the project done in a month (It got slightly behind due to weather but they were able to get back on course). There was a Modern Marvels episode on runways that had a segment on the rebuilding of the runway.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 16):
Full reconstruction. They pulled the old surface up in sections and hauled them to a site just south of the airport. They worked almost 24/7 to get the project done in a month (It got slightly behind due to weather but they were able to get back on course). There was a Modern Marvels episode on runways that had a segment on the rebuilding of the runway.

Im not the engineer on this project (I can ask one of them though!), i believe there were some issues with some base failures. I know at one point there were looking at removing the "dip" or at least part of it, but matching the grading of the taxiways with doing that made it not-feasible.



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