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User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

I was wondering if any of the locals or for that matter if anyone that has flown thru IND in the last month or so, seen and construction work being done to the Fedex Hub at IND? They stated about 2 or so months ago, that a fairly large expansion would take place imediality. I was just wondering. Fedex will be inching closer to the MEM hub when complete!

Eric


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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

I landed at IND on October 10th. The area just beyond the Southwest end of the FX ramp had been recently bulldozed, as if they were getting ready to pour cement.

User currently offlineDispatcher From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 254 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

It's a total of five more gates, should be ready mid November. Is it Memphis yet?  hyper 

User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

How many gates does fedex have at MEM??


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4548 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

When this current expansion is complete the FX hub in IND will be close to the same size as the MEM facility in square footage and sorting CAPACITY. However I think you will find the actual volume of packages a bit short. This is based on the numbers listed in the news release about the expansion and the last article I was able to find on the MEM sorting facility.


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User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

Oh wow... I did not know we were that close to MEM in size of operations.... How many aircraft gates does MEM have anyone know?


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9191 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

Hey Indy,

I am actually curious as to what the local airport authority has done to entice FedEX to drasticly expand their IND presence into a hub. PIT is trying to add cargo facilities there, but is having trouble with Moon TWP (NIMBYS), as well as cargo airlines not interested due to the high operating fees there. Someone posted on another thread that they were going to build a facility in Moon TWP (former Greater PIT terminal site) that could hold 13 747s, but Moon emphatically opposed that and the proposal was shot down.

I was wondering what IND is doing and if something similar could be done for PIT. Just a thought, or is PIT just a lost cause plagued by crooked idiots in power surrounded by whiny, anti-change, all-for-their-selfish-selves NIMBYs? When will they wake up and realize that PIT needs to participate in the global market, make money, attract business any which way it can. Otherwise, there will be NOTHING for Pittsburgh. It will go bankrupt and everyone in the 10-county region will have NOTHING. The region is on life-support pretty much. Accept change for the region; it will benefit everyone. They're not the only residents of Southwestern PA...

Okay, enough of that rant, back to IND.



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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4548 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

I don't know if it has made a difference or not but they (airport authority) has been buying up land all around the airport for years. Probably fewer NIMBYS. Also location helps.


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User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

IND = Room Room & More Room....they even re-routed I-70 to fit FedEx....also no NIBYS around the airport...there is still more space, for oters in needed; the former UAL Mx Center and the USPS "Express Mail" cargo ramp are vacant....

User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

IND I think could be the largest Cargo hub in the world if someone wanted it to be. MEM or some of these other large airports don't have all the room that IND has. ON the North side alone you have a large USPS hub that is not being used to start a operation. YOu have a huge mx center to work on the planes if you wanted to and you have about 200+ acres to do what ever you want with.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9191 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 8):
IND = Room Room & More Room....they even re-routed I-70 to fit FedEx....also no NIBYS around the airport...there is still more space, for oters in needed; the former UAL Mx Center and the USPS "Express Mail" cargo ramp are vacant....



Quoting Fedexexpress (Reply 9):
IND I think could be the largest Cargo hub in the world if someone wanted it to be. MEM or some of these other large airports don't have all the room that IND has. ON the North side alone you have a large USPS hub that is not being used to start a operation. YOu have a huge mx center to work on the planes if you wanted to and you have about 200+ acres to do what ever you want with.

It seems like IND is the ideal place to build a massive cargo hub at...

Ample space: positive
NO NIMBYs: a BIG positive
Tax breaks to build the facility: another big positive

Does anyone have a list of all the US-based cargo airlines and their hubs/focus cities? I imagine that this growing IND FedEX hub would bring huge tax dollars into Indianapolis and the surrounding region, essentially boosting the region's economy with job growth.

Let's see, the IND hub, let's say hypothetically employs 10,000 people. I suppose another 20-30k jobs would also be affected by this hub, much like what US did at their former fortress hub at PIT circa 2000/2001: 11,000+ employees, supporting another 23,000 employees.

As I said above, major shot in the arm for IND job growth...



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7247 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
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Was there last week for training. The expansion at IND for us will add up to 30% increase. Adding 14 widebody a/c gates, 400,000 sqft addition to sort facility, 175,000 sqft additional sort building, and two new MX buildings with 48,000 sqft of work space.

Currently we have 61 gates on IND, 38 for wide-body, and 23 for short-body a/c.

In comparison, MEM has over 200 gates total. Not quite MEM size.  box 


User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

I seriously think IND will some day be a huge contender in the cargo market. Besides Fedex and all the planes they bring in around the clock. We now have CargoLux flying 747-400 twice weekly service from LUX. I think there will be more to come too.


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User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Wow i did not realize that MEM had that many gates? IND is not even half way there then? Will IND ever have that many?


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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting Fedexexpress (Reply 9):
IND I think could be the largest Cargo hub in the world if someone wanted it to be.

How is IND's winter weather? One of Memphis' prime advantages is that it very rarely gets significant winter weather, and for the airport to close for weather reasons is quite unusual.


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4548 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 11):
In comparison, MEM has over 200 gates total. Not quite MEM size.

What is the size of the MEM sorting facility and their sorting capacity. I think that is a bigger issue than the number of gates.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9191 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 11):
The expansion at IND for us will add up to 30% increase. Adding 14 widebody a/c gates, 400,000 sqft addition to sort facility, 175,000 sqft additional sort building, and two new MX buildings with 48,000 sqft of work space.

Currently we have 61 gates on IND, 38 for wide-body, and 23 for short-body a/c.

In comparison, MEM has over 200 gates total. Not quite MEM size.

Ok, so the expansion will bring the gate total to 75 gates, from what I gather of this. Yeah, that's not even half of what MEM has. Still, quite sizeable though.



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User currently offline777wt From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Check out MEM FedEx hub on google earth. It's huge!

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 7):
I don't know if it has made a difference or not but they (airport authority) has been buying up land all around the airport for years. Probably fewer NIMBYS. Also location helps.

Yes, Indiana (except for Gary) is a lot better about the NIMBY issue than East or West coasters, or even the Chicago area.



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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4548 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 18):
Yes, Indiana (except for Gary) is a lot better about the NIMBY issue than East or West coasters, or even the Chicago area.

Unless you are wanting to build an extension to I-69. I think they are wanting to build that route through the NIMBY metro area.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 19):
Unless you are wanting to build an extension to I-69. I think they are wanting to build that route through the NIMBY metro area.

That part's not important. Just utilize I-465. They can get a lot of that done by just using the path of State Road 37 south from Indy. That takes you almost all the way out of Indiana. It's already been brought up to Interstate standards along much of the route. And south from Indiana, much of the I-69 route is already in the hands of government.



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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 15):
What is the size of the MEM sorting facility and their sorting capacity. I think that is a bigger issue than the number of gates.

According to an article in the Memphis Commercial Appeal earlier this year, the IND facility will have a sort capacity of 99,000 packages/hour when the expansion is complete. At present the Memphis SuperHub has a sort capacity of 150,000 packages/hour with capacity for another 10%.


User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

I'm curious why FedEx is developing such a large operation at IND given it's relative nearness to MEM (~ 450 miles). This is like when US operated 2 major hubs at PHL and PIT -- something had to give and PIT lost out. Isn't there the danger IND will reduce the status of MEM to some degree? Shipping by FedEx is getting more expensive all the time and there's UPS with its hub at SDF, about 110 miles from IND and ~300 from MEM, offering competing service!

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4548 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

I don't think the proximity of IND-SDF or MEM-SDF really matters. It isn't like it will influence who a customer picks for shipping. I don't know if IND will negatively effect MEM. They don't have much room for growth so FX has to go somewhere and IND has plenty of space. They have a state of the art sorting facility here, room to grow and the ability to have the facility placed between parallel runways to cut down on taxi times and fuel consumption. The 3rd parallel runway is a future addition. Last I heard the construction date was up in the air.


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User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

The 3rd parallel would in fact be for Fedex. That is obvious. They would place it over I-70 and it would start right at the southwest corner of the Fedex Parking lot. and they even have talks of adding aircraft gates over on the south side of I-70 as well. If Fedex does all they want to do to IND...... I know i will catch hell but IND will be your largest Hub for Federal Express...


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25 Steeler83 : That really isn't that close... Now that you brought up PIT again, there is talk of going with a cargo air carrier, but I don't think anyone will set
26 Chase : I believe it has already been determined that the I-69 extension will go around the East side of the city on I-465. Any plans to bring I-69 downtown
27 Steeler83 : and don't forget overpasses. They have to be a certain height now above the road surface, which I believe is 17 feet, instead of 13 or 14 feet from 2
28 Post contains links and images FXramper : Adjacent to MEM, the hub spans 300 acres and has a 7.5-mile perimeter. Although there's some activity on the day shift as workers take care of second
29 Steeler83 : That whole thing just north of the MEM pax terminal is their FedEX ops alone??? SHEESH!!! That IS huge!!!
30 Post contains images FXramper :
31 Fedexexpress : Look for IND to be just as big in 10 years.....
32 N328KF : Bloomington is all Interstate-grade now. There are just a couple of small access roads that could easily be diverted/closed off. The rest of the SR-3
33 Post contains links Dispatcher : As much as I would love that to be true.. FedEx MEM FedEx IND Photos are the same scale, IND has a long way to go! There is room now and the space is
34 Post contains links and images JohnJ : This photo by M.J. Scanlon speaks volumes about what MEM looks like during a busy period - and this is just the tarmac on the west side of the SuperHu
35 Indy : Just to put size in perspective. When this latest expansion becomes complete IND will be 2/3rds the size of the MEM facility. Between the two centers
36 Post contains links Dispatcher : I'm not sure what the pph of SDF is but here is a photo, same scale as above.. UPS SDF And while I'm at it, the other FedEx hubs just for fun! FedEx
37 Indy : I love driving by the SDF facility. Love seeing all those 747's. I love the MD11's and DC10's but there is something special about any model of 747.
38 Post contains images Steeler83 : Jeeeze... For MEM, that is pathetic!
39 Fedexexpress : I drove by the Fedex Indianapolis Hub today, they are really coming along on the gates. That was a pretty big expansion and the sorting hub that is go
40 Steeler83 : IND was showing me all kinds of pics of the construction of the new facilities: the FedEX hub expansion, extended/new taxiways, the new commercial air
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