LeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6009 times:
According to this week's ABTN newsletter (see here, Ryanair is to begin charging passengers €3 per flight to check-in online from 1 November 2006, with priority boarding also available at €3 per flight. Could this be a counterproductive move? Surely, Ryanair would want to maximise online check-in, thereby reducing the number of conventional check-in desks needed?
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 48 Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6001 times:
What now? I thought, they were intending to charge for check-in at the counter? Somewhat counterproductive to make people charge for the (from an airline's perspective) cheapest form of check-in.
Interesting to see that MOL still hasn't lost his disdain for the customers - and that there are still plenty of sheep following this bad example of a shepherd, if FR gets away with all that crap.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Danny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3482 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5986 times:
I think some journalists may have got confused. They will probably charge for check in at the counter not for check in online, unless you want to buy priority boarding then you will still pay even online.
Trekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5985 times:
Oh my god, thats so funny.
What next, they charge to book, charge to check in, charge to check in baggage, charge for food and drink, what else can they charge for, Toilets
LeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5975 times:
Ryanair state this on their website (see bottom half here):
Ryanair also announced today a new online check-in and priority boarding service enhancement that will allow all passengers to enjoy online check-in / priority boarding for just £2/€3 per flight from 1st November. This service improvement will extend the option of priority boarding to all passengers and not just those travelling without checked in bags as was previously the case.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10442 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5976 times:
Quoting Trekster (Reply 3): Oh my god, thats so funny.
What next, they charge to book, charge to check in, charge to check in baggage, charge for food and drink, what else can they charge for, Toilets
I hope not - can you imagine what some people will do to avoid a toilet fee? Yuck!
Noelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5957 times:
Yet another ludicrous move by Ryanair. No offense to the Irish but the old adage about the intelligence of our neighbours is yet again called into question.
I'd sooner save my money and check in at the airport - or are they going to charge for that too? Surely that is more costly than checking on online?
Actually, screw that, I'd sooner save my money and fly on an airline that doesn't treat it's passengers like they are thick as pig sh!t.
Trekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5956 times:
I thought they were getting rid of tray tables.
I can see the overhead thing lol. Pay £3 to get a key to unlock the overhead, a pound a step on the airstairs
Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5917 times:
Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 4): online check-in / priority boarding for just £2/€3 per flight
To be honest, from the looks of their wording, I'd interpret this as a 3 euro charge to get priority boarding when you check in online, not a flat out 3 euro charge for checking in online in general. I could be wrong, but I don't think they would mention priority boarding if the fee strictly applied to online check-in.
Bringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5917 times:
If they had it their way they would strap a passenger on and not let him even get up and abouts before the plane landed cuz it would save money on Aisle maintaince etc however MOL keeps earning money for his shareholders and as long as people value such cheap fairs he will continue to do very well !!
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5895 times:
I think this is Ryanair's attempt at Business class.
Pay EUR3.00 to board before everyone else..
(I reckon Ryanair would do better to sell seat reservations).
What happened to that idea of tip up seats in the aisles ? Or is that still going through ?
Everytime ive flown Ryanair I heard about removing the window shades.. but so far every chavvyjet ive been on still had them.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
Bringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5855 times:
I had some free time so put in a trip from Dublin to london on both Ryanair an british airways leaving early nov. and comming back mid nov and the price was between 4 times to 5 times cheaper for ryanair ( 15.98 pounds as compared 60-100 pounds for BA) for an arbitrary internary which is quite impressive . Personally i would still fly BA because i can afford to pay 70 pounds for the ticket however i can very well imagine some people choosing to fly cheap ( more shopping money) etc Heck You can buy 3 seats and relax your way and still fly cheaper then what it costs on BA even with a 3-4 pound drink !!
I wouldn't joke about that: BE has mentioned that they might charge for that. And they were the first European airline to begin pay-for-checked-in-luggage.
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It makes sense to give its customers the option of boarding first if they wish to do so, thereby avoiding queuing and the associated occasional annoyance. And, for that convenience, it is right for them to pay for it. If customers want it, they have the option of paying for it. If they don’t, they don’t have to pay for it. I, for one, won’t. Just like buying food and drink if you want it. Just like buying insurance online if you want it. It's increasing customers choice and options - if they want something, they can pay for it, thereby tailor-making their own trip. If they don't want any of it, like me, then they won't have to pay for it and so will only pay the base fare.
I don't think they will charge customers for checking in online – unless they want priority boarding. However, for the convenience and quickness, as opposed to queuing for check-in at the airport, it does make sense, just like for the priority boarding. And add to that the reduced costs as a result of fewer check-in staff, etc... But, again, I don't think they will charge for normal online check-in. However:
To encourage customers to check-in via the ‘net – 98% of its present 39m customers book via the ‘net – it seems fair for them to charge for traditional at-the-airport check-in, which will, in time, become more obsolete.
Of its present 39m customers, if 10% of those decided to have priority boarding (at £2 each), that'd be about £7.8m extra/year ($14.5m) in revenue. By 2012, it is expecting to carry between 84m and 100m customers/year. If just 10% of those paid £2 each, that'd be between £16.8m ($31.4m) and £20m ($36.8m) extra revenue/year just for priority boarding.
[Edited 2006-10-23 14:57:25]
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Bringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5815 times:
I totally agree , they arent imposing a surcharge but only providing an option for customers that want to check in without having to stand in line . These revenues will ultimately be used by MOL to further reduce the ticket price for all other passengers so it all adds up in the end .
Fraport From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5805 times:
Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 9): To be honest, from the looks of their wording, I'd interpret this as a 3 euro charge to get priority boarding when you check in online, not a flat out 3 euro charge for checking in online in general. I could be wrong, but I don't think they would mention priority boarding if the fee strictly applied to online check-in.
That's what I think, too. I think the author of the ABTN article mixes up normal online check-in and online check-in for priority boarding. Charging money for regular online check-in would make no sense at all.
When you have a look at Ryanair's conditions for online check-in there is no word of a charge:
BritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5786 times:
I would have thought most airlines would be happy that most of their passengers would check in online and in the case of many airlines also print their own boarding passes, therefore reducing their own costs at the airport but then again FR is most definately not a regular airline
Quoting Trekster (Reply 3): what else can they charge for, Toilets
LMAO measured per millilitre or weight of excretion
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18813 posts, RR: 54 Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5786 times:
Quoting Bringiton (Reply 12): Personally i would still fly BA because i can afford to pay 70 pounds for the ticket however i can very well imagine some people choosing to fly cheap ( more shopping money)
Don't associate FR as just being for those who can't afford more. In fact, a lot of Italians, for example, will fly FR - which serves a huge amount of destinations in Italy - to London, only to then stay in 5* hotels. It's about convenience. And the vast majority of FR's destinations are small, regional airports (as opposed to secondary airports), which, like those in France and parts of Italy, appeal greatly to, for example, Brits who have holiday homes there.
You are correct: as cheap fares become increasingly important, people have more money to spend it on more important things: better hotels; better restaurants; more spending money; more trips more often; etc. The things that, for the overwhelming majority of normal flyers, are more important on a trip.
But, yes, the majority of FR's customers fly it for visiting family and friends (39.29%), then for tourism (37.57%), then for business (23.15%) - and still a very large amount of people flying it for business, particularly on UK-Ireland-UK.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18813 posts, RR: 54 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5753 times:
Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 16): LMAO measured per millilitre or weight of excretion
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13): I wouldn't joke about that: BE has mentioned that they might charge for that. And they were the first European airline to begin pay-for-checked-in-luggage.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5753 times:
Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 9): To be honest, from the looks of their wording, I'd interpret this as a 3 euro charge to get priority boarding when you check in online, not a flat out 3 euro charge for checking in online in general.
That's how I interpret it too. There is no mention of a flat out €3.00 charge for check-in on line, so you have the option of priority boarding but only if you want it.
Why the fuss? Did not U2 recently introduce a GBP 12.00 charge if you wanted priority boarding - that's nearly 18 x dearer that FR are proposing to charge! Oh I forgot. Let's bash FR!
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18813 posts, RR: 54 Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5745 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 20): Did not U2 recently introduce a GBP 12.00 charge if you wanted priority boarding - that's nearly 18 x dearer that FR are proposing to charge! Oh I forgot. Let's bash FR!
Did they? I totally missed that. £12? Now that really it taking the piss. Is BE's £5-for-a-window-seat worthwhile? Hmm.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
EZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2448 posts, RR: 54 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5521 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 20): Why the fuss? Did not U2 recently introduce a GBP 12.00 charge if you wanted priority boarding - that's nearly 18 x dearer that FR are proposing to charge! Oh I forgot. Let's bash FR!
BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5457 times:
This adds to my distaste for FR
What next. are they going to make the pax clean the a/c before they disembarke?
25 Vasu: Hey, I like it! haha. They could let passengers out only when their area is clean - I'd be quick off the jet!
26 Pe@rson: Yet everyone is moaning that FR are proposing £2/3 EUR, when U2 charge £5.50 more?
27 Pe@rson: I think that it is very telling that despite not being the first to do major things, such as paying for your own refreshments, paying for checked-in l
28 Noelg: The article states that online checkin is €3 and priority boarding is an additional €3. I quote the article: "Ryanair will provide online check-i
29 Pe@rson: Wow. Still £1.50 less than U2's priority check-in fee.
30 Noelg: But still 3 EUR more expensive than the equivalent product with U2!
31 Pe@rson: Great. But then U2 will charge you £4.50 more than FR for priority boarding. I can see the points: for those who want to eliminate a queue, i.e. for
32 Noelg: At the end of the day, all any airline is after is your money! They're all as bad as one another - they sell you something as if they're doing you a
33 Pe@rson: Well, durrr! That's why it's called BUSINESS and not HOBBY. Funny how you change your tune when confronted by the fact that U2 charges sustantially m
34 Futurecaptain: Check out WN's new ad. http://gallery.swamedia.com/videos/value=open/type=video Making fun of just this type of thing.
35 Noelg: Haha! I'm the same as you though - I wouldn't pay for any of it with any airline. FlyBE offered me the chance to choose my seat for £5 per seat per
36 Pe@rson: That's the thing - my career (law) requires me to argue about things everyday. I do this stuff for fun. Â Quite nice, at 2145, to be here at my desk
37 Patroni: Even though I try to avoid FR if at all possible, this new option (whether it costs now 3 or 6 EUR I don't care) is a step in the right direction! One
38 EHHO: Which one? There are many on that page. I'd love to see it..
40 Futurecaptain: Sorry. Top left corner. "Tired of being nickeled and dimed by other airlines?" warning: not for the faint of heart (or bandwidth) to download. 111 mb
41 Jwenting: Hardly. Charge for both counter AND online checkin. That way everyone has to pay to get on the plane even if they already paid for the ticket (of cou
42 Noelg: I think I've figured FR's business model! They keep taking these £2 here, £3 there, they aren't trying to scam you, more that the more change they t
44 Irish251: Which neighbours and what adage did you have in mind??? Whatever you might feel about Ryanair, I don't think they have achieved their current positio
45 Lehovec: EZY actually charge from 2,5 to 7 GBP depends on destination and the way boarding is done (bus, walking, airbridge). From what I have seen so far pax
46 Pe@rson: I can understand that. Should be a good way for FR to generate more all-important ancillary revenue. So up to £4.50 more than FR's predicted price.
47 Lehovec: Yes on flights where airbridges are used... Remember airbridge, the thing FR dont use. Completely agree.
48 Pe@rson: Actually, they do, e.g. at MAN. Besides, for an extra £4.50 just to save yourself 30 seconds outside is a bit silly. Nevertheless, if pax. are happy
49 Lehovec: Unfortunatelly not. I can say that on my flights I will normally have 5-10 ppl on speedy boarding. Anyway it is only up to 20 pax.
50 SkyvanMan: This seems stupid to me, online check-in should be cheaper as it doesn't require any land (though the site is hosted on servers that are on land the c
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