Lowecur From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 585 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11146 times:
Neeleman will give a synopsis of the growth plan for 2007 at the cc tomorrow. On tap are 14 more cities for 2007. It will be interesting to see how this will unfold and just what focus cities will grow.
BOS, JFK, and MCO headline my list of stations that will receive the majority of growth. STL will probably be named the midwest hub as they try and connect the East with the West for the 190s. I believe most of the new 190 cities will consist of small to midsized markets along the East Coast and Midwest. Look for MCO to be the big growth catalyst.
B6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11105 times:
If they are going to open 14 new cities next year, when are they going to start connecting the dots more? I am hoping that they start connecting the dots out here on the west coast!? I travel to SMF/OAK every other month and would love to do that trip on B6, even though after 4 flights I get a free one on WN.
Can't wait for the webcast tomorrow, even though I have to go to class I do have a few breaks that I can listen in on.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6865 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10905 times:
Riddle me crazy.. but I am thinking the following are just snippets of what could possibly happen..
Opening of at least SAV, MCI, and ORF (why am I thinking OKC?)
STL mini-hub creation with flights to JFK, BOS, MCO, OAK
Additional destinations from CUN or SJU, MSY, RDU, CLT, CMH, OAK, AUS.. etc..
More international flights to MBJ, Cayman, YYZ or YUL, STT
Like I said.. call me crazy.. but that's what my 8-ball is showing me..
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10824 times:
At some point I expect B6 to launch flights from Atlantic City and or Trenton Mercer to serve both the Philadelphia and New Jersey markets, especially given the dominance and head start WN has in Philadelphia and the difficulty B6 has experienced at EWR.
Atlantic City and or Trenton Mercer gives B6 the ability to serve the New Jersey and Philadelphia markets without competing head to head with WN, US at PHL and CO at EWR.
What's the source for this? Also, why would groowth plans for 2007 be announced (to the public) in 3rd qtr. 2006?
IMO, 2007 will be a much quieter year than 2006. I think there will be a maximum of 10 new cities (although I may very well be wrong.) I just don't see where they can grow especially with the new T5 still being constructed. Once T5 opens, then therre will once again be a huge growth especially at JFK.
For 2007, I would say MSP, STL, ABQ and DAB. In terms of connecting the dots, maybe BUF-FLL, BOS-MSY, BOS-CLT, BOS-HOU.
Remember, not all growth means new cities or connecting the dots. I would say jetBlue has something up its sleeve regarding an international alliance with a foreign airline or 2 for interlining.
Also, from a VERY reliable source: look for the ability to view seat maps before purchase online (will first be introduced for TrueBlue members only)!!
N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10724 times:
Quoting Jetbluefan1 (Reply 8): I'm surprised about that number...14. I would have thought that next year would see more connecting of the dots. Oh well. Let's see how this plays out.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if B6 has a static route map, or if an enthusiast has put one together? I can sorta get an idea of their network by playing around with their Flash map on their website, but I'd like to see the whole thing in one place, if such a beast exists.
Edit: Actually, nevermind, that may be a dumb question. Looking some more at the Flash route map, it looks like all their flights pass through one of the "key cities." Is this correct? For some reason, I was under the impression that B6 did more point-to-point flying.
[Edited 2006-10-23 21:21:10]
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34349 posts, RR: 70
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10212 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 17): Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
I think (and hope) that 2007 is finally the year FLL gets growig. They've wanted to expad there for ages, but have had trouble finding the space.
I thought you said they were supposed to be going to MIA?
There most recent talks with MIA this past May did not produce anything. jetBlue doesn't want to pay the fees MIA is charging. I still think we'll see them at MIA, but not until they are in a a) situation where they "have to" to expand in SFL or b) MIA offers them a better financial incentive.
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10010 times:
well PVD does have an AA gate open because in 04' they pulled out all their mainline fleet and stuck 2 eagle flights in instead. so basically the AA gate is empty for most of the day and the Spirit gate is empty for most of the day having also 2 flights a day. So there are two gates free they could also share a gate with CO they don't come frequently but more frequently than AA or Spirit. I think they'll have the most luck with AA or Spirt though and as part of the FAA's plan to spruce up New England airports they plan on extending the south side of the terminal which is the us airways side.
The 2 gates on the right are the 2 AA gates they use 2 times a day.
The Delta/Spirit gates are the 3 on the left the spirit gate which is also used 2 times a day is the one on the far left. also the 2 next to the spirit gate are the DA gates which can be shared with B6 because the most DA planes there at a time are 1.
So there are 3 gates which is probably plenty considering they only got 4 at ORD
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6865 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10002 times:
I don't think Delta nor American would want to share any gate space with jetBlue.. color me crazy, but somehow I don't see that marriage working.. it sounds more like a Johnny Cochrane case to me.. cause someone would try to commit murder before that happens.. Next??
Aiming High and going far..
: i could understand DA not taking to the idea but AA they have three EAGLE flight's into PVD a day (not 2 sorry) 1 at 7:40 A.M. another at 12:15 P.M. a
: Is there a definitive number of new airframes coming in 2007?
: well im still hopping PVD can make it, bit obviously we all know at least one that is going to be on there.....ORD
: Yet they are going through all this crap at ORD? They don't have 4 gates at ORD. If they had 4 gates, they could run 35-40 flights. They go 4 SLOTS,
: I hope OMA is on the list for '07. Heck, I'll be hapy whenever we get a new airline.
: I hope they continue to fly that as well. The people of the great city of Pittsburgh should embrace that airline. In order for people to embrace it,
: Well, ORD doesn't charge close to $16 per passenger like MIA does. Though I agree, they are wasting their time with O'Hare, especially when all they
: I just don't see what their deal with ORD is, when they can fly into MDW, especially considering the pull down of the legacies there. Further, if MIA
: Agreed. Plus, Midway is a far easier airport to use and much closer to downtown. As someone currently living in Chicago, I despise O'Hare. The only r
: I guess the word of mouth isn't spreading very well in and around the Steel City. In Pittsburgh, there are tv commercials about making tv commercials
: WHAT?!? Ummm... so much for getting the crew per plane down. I do hope some is via partnerships. Jetblue did well via "word of mouth." But I think it