Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
American At TUS  
User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 755 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

I was wondering, ive heard that the loads on AA out of TUS have been very high this year and i was wondering if maybe they could bring a bigger plane to TUS for one of the Dallas flights. Not that i don't like the MD-80's but it just seems that they might be able to upgrade one of the flights and still be profitable on the route.

Any opinions?


Northwest Airlines. Now you're flying smart! (RIP 1926-2009)
39 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSABE From Argentina, joined Jun 2005, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Welcome to A.net, RedTailDTW! I'd love to see something other that MD80s here at TUS, but I'm not holding my breath. To see a significant increase in seat number, I guess they'd have to go up to a 752 and that seems pretty large for a market like TUS.


TUS-DFW-EZE... can't wait to visit home again!
User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 755 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

Well i remember in 2002 i took a plane larger than an MD80 from Dallas to TUS but i cant remember what it was, i do remember that it had TV's on it, it could have been a replacement aircraft.


Northwest Airlines. Now you're flying smart! (RIP 1926-2009)
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25733 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

One of the issues with AA Tucson service is the station has a high percentage of non-revenue travellers as the city host AA's 2nd largest reservation center after DFW.

So a good deal of the travellers you might see are AA employees, family or friends on passes which inflates boarding totals while not truly providing revenue.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3687 times:

AA had 757's here a few years ago. I remember calling for seats and they seemed to always have plenty with that aircraft...so maybe the capacity was a bit too large.

Their loads are quite good now though...however they usually have seats available if we call for some. Not alot..usually around 10-15 or so per flight.


User currently offlineSolarWind From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 3667 times:

How about this...Dec.,1978...AA flt.37..Non. Stop..TUS-JFK..10:00am-428pm..707.LuxuryJet !!With Astro-Stereo (My. Goodness).and full course Hot meals in Y..The good old days..

User currently offlineSolarWind From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 3641 times:

or this...also Dec.1978...from TUS... N.S.707s..to SAN...PSP...and 2x.daily to PHX..

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7784 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 3626 times:

What is DFW-TUS currently at, 6x daily? If there is demand for additional seats AA could seemingly toss another MD-80 on that flight and be done with it.

Obviously AA has run the 757 to TUS in the past. I remember back in 2000 taking an evening flight on AA back to Tucson on the 757. IIRC it was a 7pm departure. Most likely remained overnight and did the first flight out the following morning.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 755 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 3613 times:

DFW-TUS is currently 8x Daily


Northwest Airlines. Now you're flying smart! (RIP 1926-2009)
User currently offlineNikonDFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 3609 times:

AA@ TUS March 2,1973 Departures
TUS-ORD:
8:00A-DC-10
3:10P-DC-10

TUS-DFW:
9:40A-707
1:10P-707
2:25P-727

TUS-ELP:
11:05A-707

TUS-LAX:
5:15P-DC-10

TUS-PSP:
7:05P-707

TUS-PHX:
7:45A-727
9:00A-707
11:40A-707
12:40P-DC-10
12:15A-DC-10

TUS-SFO:
4:25P-707

14 daily departures, including 5 DC-10s!!


User currently offlineLegion242 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

A DC-10 between PHX and TUS? That must have been some flight!!!


Don't make me release the monkeys!!
User currently offlineNikonDFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Quoting Legion242 (Reply 10):
A DC-10 between PHX and TUS? That must have been some flight!!!

The TUS-PHX DC-10's continued on to JFK,ORD,etc...


User currently offlineEastbay From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 211 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

I've been on AA 757's out of Tucson several times, during the 2000-2003 time range, and the loads always seemed quite good. Probably these were during the winter months- I'm not sure- but TUS has always seemed to serve AA quite well.

User currently offlineLegion242 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

Quoting NikonDFW (Reply 11):
Quoting Legion242 (Reply 10):
A DC-10 between PHX and TUS? That must have been some flight!!!

The TUS-PHX DC-10's continued on to JFK,ORD,etc...

Yeah, I figured. It still is a funny route for a wide body.



Don't make me release the monkeys!!
User currently offlineNikonDFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Quoting Legion242 (Reply 13):
Yeah, I figured. It still is a funny route for a wide body.

TUS-PSP DC-10 was even stranger!! PSP had as many as 3 DC-10's a day at one time.


User currently offlineAA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

TUS even had 762s with AA for a short period of time from DFW. I remember flying in business class from DFW on the last flight into TUS and also distinctly being disappointed on sitting in the middle section of the 762 from TUS to DFW in the morning some weeks later on another trip....that was like that late 80s some time.

AA had the tendency to run atleast one 757 to DFW during the winter months into TUS (and at one point to ORD as well). However, over the last couple years, I have not noticed this as much.

AA has been very devoted to TUS. They have served Tucson for almost 90 years, continuously (since 1927). They started flying to what is now Davis-Monthan AFB, when commericial and military shared the existing runway there. In fact, if I am not mistaken, the lonely hangar on the NW part of DMAFB (still there today), seen from Golf Links Road near the turn off to Alvernon was the "terminal" where AA served initially way back in the day. The current airport at TUS built around 1940 when the military build up warranted the need for a new airport.



Roger that, turning to our "other" left
User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

During the Braniff years both AA and Braniff had service to St. Louis.

User currently offlineSocalfive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

Quoting NikonDFW (Reply 9):
AA@ TUS March 2,1973 Departures
TUS-ORD:
8:00A-DC-10
3:10P-DC-10

Wow, I grew up there and never knew AA brought DC10s through TUS at all, and 1973 was well before jetbridges at TUS. I do recall as late as 1979 flying 707s to ORD that originated in Palm Springs, and of course 727s to both DAL and DFW from 67 on.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Some eye candy for you guys:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © AirNikon


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Tim Hamlin



And two DC-10 incidents here at TUS within days of each other. The first is the inflight separation of the right Air Conditioning door and the second is a tailstrike on landing two days later in a different aircraft.

There are some pics in an Airliners Magazine at my house from an article they did about TUS and one pic has 2 DC-10s in it I think. I may not be going home this weekend so I probably won't get them.

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=86141&key=0#
http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=86146&key=0

And because it is big, was new, and in TUS:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Derek Hellmann



User currently offlineTUSaadvantage From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

AA has always been pretty strong here in TUS. I think a lot of Tucsonians are loyal to AA. AA has rewarded TUS by only sending mainline. I don't think an American Eagle AC has ever touched down in TUS.

I remember being on an AA 737 of some kind to ORD in about 2000. I don't know if it was a sub or not.


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

Quoting TUSaadvantage (Reply 19):
AA has rewarded TUS by only sending mainline.

Not to mention the thousands of jobs AA provides at its enormous Southwestern Reservations Office (SWRO) in Tucson.


User currently offlineFlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 18):
And because it is big, was new, and in TUS:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Derek Hellmann

What is/was an Air France 777 doing in Tuscon?



- When dreams take flight, follow them -
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

I believe that was before entry into service and was here for hot-and-high testing. Looking at the weather history for that day it was 87 F instead of the normal 71 F. Pretty warm for the beginning of March.

User currently offlineNikonDFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Quoting TUSaadvantage (Reply 19):
I don't think an American Eagle AC has ever touched down in TUS.

American Eagle flew SNA-TUS with the SAAB 340's in the early 90's. Didn't last too long, maybe a year or less.


User currently offlineAA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2889 times:

Quoting NikonDFW (Reply 23):
American Eagle flew SNA-TUS with the SAAB 340's in the early 90's. Didn't last too long, maybe a year or less.

I think the service was actually to PSP, and not SNA. The SNA service was provided by DL at some point in the mid-90s with regional jets, but that too was shortlived......They parked the 340s where the recently added third WN gate was put......

Also, the first CO 757 with winglets was tested here in Tucson in March of 2005 (which, was this the first wingletted 757 period?). It was cool to see them doing flight tests.

Quoting TUSaadvantage (Reply 19):
AA has rewarded TUS by only sending mainline.

I find it still amazing that they only send mainline to TUS, which is fine by me. Its interesting since even a city like MSP sees CRJs on AE from DFW, and that's a bigger city with even a longer flight......



Roger that, turning to our "other" left
25 Flyboyaz : CO also flew to SNA with 737's..but didn't last long either. I think US should fly that route, we have so many people travelling to Orange County eve
26 Smokescreen : Did they ever send CV-990's to the Old Pueblo?
27 AirTranTUS : I think a better choice would be 2x daily service to LAX with AE. AA and OneWorld have a large base there, but no service to TUS or PHX. If they sche
28 TUSaadvantage : Thats news to me. I'm always amazed at how much stuff A.netters know about every obscure topic. I agree. Whenever I go to Melbourne to visit family I
29 ATAflyer : Hi All, Well someone might find this interesting: Imagine this: As a teenager in 1974, my friend and I wanted to go from TUS to PHX to spend the day a
30 ATAflyer : Note to Smokescreen: YES ! I have a postcard of TUS from the early 70's, showing an AA Convair 990 and a Frontier Convair 580 at the terminal.
31 Socalfive : Oh yeah, those were the good 'ole days, you could get down to the gates for spotting too, except IIRC not at the old terminal one in PHX due to the c
32 Imisspiedmont : It was not. For some reason that myth has lived on in Tucson lore for may years. The terminal was on the east side of the North-South runway which is
33 Warreng24 : PHX would get LAX service before TUS would. AA doesn't fly anwhere west of TUS or PHX. If a western destination were to come, PHX would get it first.
34 Post contains links and images AirTranTUS : I know that. AA probably should serve both if they think they can get passengers away from the other carriers. Back in 2002 AE served PHX, but I don'
35 NikonDFW : Yes, plenty of them during the 60's. The SAAB's did SNA-TUS for a short time. TUS-PSP was always mainline,DC-10,707,727-023/223's at one time or anot
36 Cactus739 : In 2000 American started LAX-PHX and SJC-PHX on MD80's. After 9/11 it was downsized to the RJ's, then quietly cut sometime in later 2002 or early 200
37 Smokescreen : That's great to know! I love those "Coronados" (I know, that's SR's name) and it's nice to know they were visitors here.
38 ATAflyer : Hey Smokescreen and Socalfive, We have a lot in common. I also did the same TUS-PHX-TUS trip with my brother, we took seperate flights both directions
39 Post contains images SABE : Amen to that! I would love it if AA restarted some of the service that Reno Air used to provide. But, it will be hard to compete with WN and their ma
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
DL At TUS.... posted Sun Nov 5 2006 00:07:41 by RedTailDTW
United & American At LAX & ORD....which Is Bigger? posted Mon Oct 23 2006 20:12:28 by 8herveg
Attention Spotters: An-124 At TUS posted Thu Jun 8 2006 04:16:09 by AirTranTUS
Independence CRJ's At TUS Yesterday posted Sat Jan 21 2006 17:32:50 by AirTranTUS
American At Flint posted Sat Dec 3 2005 02:56:37 by Nwafflyer
Delta Vs. American At BOS posted Sat Oct 1 2005 21:04:47 by MD90fan
Widebodies At TUS? posted Thu Aug 25 2005 23:01:09 by AZflyer
Air Service At TUS posted Tue Aug 2 2005 21:08:05 by AZflyer
Indy Air Jets At TUS posted Tue Aug 2 2005 06:05:19 by COERJ145
NW Appears To Be Doing Good At TUS posted Tue Dec 21 2004 04:20:43 by Iowaman