Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 46 Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4524 times:
A318 is planned to come in Saturday AM, unless the weather is bad.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4189 times:
Quoting Jasond (Reply 5): Why is she going there? More tests or a promotional visit?
Perhaps for the concluding part of their LCY trials before certification? I think the environmental (noise) tests are not completed yet. BTW, what has come out of Airbus' campaign to have the A318 ETOPS certified? If for promotional visit, Airbus should really send it in ELITE fitment!
Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 46 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3931 times:
Turnleftalways From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3707 times:
I saw it too it was fab. I live right next to the airport well I can see the runway from my balcony. It did indeed only use a quater of the runway but i guess it was pretty empty especially by the steep incline on take off! I took pics but only from my camera phone - digi cam not charged! Will post cam shots if people would like? I personally think it was also quieter than the 146's and anlot of the private jets that use LCY. Loved it!!!
Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 46 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3596 times:
Quoting Turnleftalways (Reply 9): I saw it too it was fab. I live right next to the airport well I can see the runway from my balcony. It did indeed only use a quater of the runway but i guess it was pretty empty especially by the steep incline on take off!
Actually, it had (I believe) around a 68 ton payload inside, simulated using water tanks. Also it had enough fuel to fly from Toulouse, do circuits at LCY, fly back to an airport in Southern France, do circuits there and land back at Toulouse!
Turnleftalways From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3003 times:
68 ton payload fantastic. It performed better than I thought! Perhaps your view from Essex wasn't as good as mine! Thanks for the info, very kind indeed.
Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1808 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2750 times:
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 18): Has Airbus kind of given up on selling the A318 as a pax aircraft and instead focus more on the Elite version?
Is the PW6000 as good as it was supposed to be?
Is there a huge potential at LCY or is it more hype for extra publicity?
Airbus will obviously continue to offer it as an airliner and sell to whoever wants to buy.
Don't know about the PW6000.
Certifying the A318 for LCY should attract attention from European A320 family airlines (AF, BA, LH, IB, AZ,...) and therefore increase the possibilities to sell the A318.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2610 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 20): Yes, the new version of the PW6000 has solved the fuel burn problem.
The PW6000A is supposed to be on LAN Chile's A318 order, but those aircraft are taking forever to be delivered. Is LAN contemplating conversion to the A319 too?
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
Quoting Breiz (Reply 19): Certifying the A318 for LCY should attract attention from European A320 family airlines (AF, BA, LH, IB, AZ,...) and therefore increase the possibilities to sell the A318.
The question remains, is it even practical to operate an A318 into LCY? Think especially in terms of its wingspan, which compared to all those turboprops and RJs which fly there, is huge.
Yes, if you click on the picture, you'll be able to see clearly that the current testreg is F-WWIB.
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 21): The PW6000A is supposed to be on LAN Chile's A318 order, but those aircraft are taking forever to be delivered. Is LAN contemplating conversion to the A319 too?
I thought LA switched the A318 order in favour of more A319s.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 22): Yes, if you click on the picture, you'll be able to see clearly that the current testreg is F-WWIB.
I was told in another thread the original F-WWIB demo aircraft was subsequently delivered to F9. I think Airbus use F-WWIB as test and certification registration until the airframe is delivered, then reuse it (and others in the sequence, i.e., F-WWIC, etc.) in case of multi-frame orders.
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2425 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 22): question remains, is it even practical to operate an A318 into LCY? Think especially in terms of its wingspan, which compared to all those turboprops and RJs which fly there, is huge.
They are building additional ramp space at LCY. This should solve the problem to some extent. Also LCY has explicitly stated that because of the movement caps they will be trying to improve passenger numbers by attracting larger aircraft rather than more movement, a strategy that should suit A318 sales.
The A318 may be attractive for existing A32X operators such as Alitalia, Iberia, British Airways, Air France, Austrian, Swiss, SAS as they can use the A318 for peak-time flights into LCY and during the day for thin routes from their hubs. While they might nit be terribly cost-effective on those routes, the high yiels on th LCY services probably will off-set this. After all, those airlines have little choice if they do not want to go for the E175.
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