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A318 Back At LCY This Weekend  
User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6610 times:

A318 will be at LCY again this weekend.

Subject to weather and Airbus planning, the flight will either be Saturday AM or Sunday PM.

Should be interesting.


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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6599 times:

Quoting BBJII (Thread starter):
Subject to weather and Airbus planning, the flight will either be Saturday AM or Sunday PM.

I hope it's Sunday PM, that means I'll be at work, it'll probably be parked on Stand 13/14.

Simon.

[Edited 2006-10-24 13:37:40]


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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

A318 is planned to come in Saturday AM, unless the weather is bad.


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User currently offlineEbbUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 2):
A318 is planned to come in Saturday AM, unless the weather is bad.

Well that's no way to attract potential customers "she'll fly if the weather is to her liking"
 Smile


User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6158 times:

Any idea what time it will be there? Want to see if I can get there to take a few shots.

PanmaN


User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Why is she going there? More tests or a promotional visit?

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5933 times:

Quoting Jasond (Reply 5):
Why is she going there? More tests or a promotional visit?

Perhaps for the concluding part of their LCY trials before certification? I think the environmental (noise) tests are not completed yet. BTW, what has come out of Airbus' campaign to have the A318 ETOPS certified? If for promotional visit, Airbus should really send it in ELITE fitment!



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User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5790 times:
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Did anybody get pictures?


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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

Quoting Btblue (Reply 7):
Did anybody get pictures?

Yes, but finding out if I can post them or not as they were taken next to the runway!  Wink

The A318, is simply fantastic - took off using a quarter of the runway!

Simon.



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User currently offlineTurnleftalways From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5451 times:

I saw it too it was fab. I live right next to the airport well I can see the runway from my balcony. It did indeed only use a quater of the runway but i guess it was pretty empty especially by the steep incline on take off! I took pics but only from my camera phone - digi cam not charged! Will post cam shots if people would like? I personally think it was also quieter than the 146's and anlot of the private jets that use LCY. Loved it!!!

User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Please Delete------------------

[Edited 2006-10-29 10:50:12]


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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Quoting Turnleftalways (Reply 9):
I saw it too it was fab. I live right next to the airport well I can see the runway from my balcony. It did indeed only use a quater of the runway but i guess it was pretty empty especially by the steep incline on take off!

Actually, it had (I believe) around a 68 ton payload inside, simulated using water tanks. Also it had enough fuel to fly from Toulouse, do circuits at LCY, fly back to an airport in Southern France, do circuits there and land back at Toulouse!



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User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5309 times:
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Looks like I missed out. Damn.

Would be nice to see some shots if you guys can upload them.

Cheers.



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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Airplanepics/LCY%20Airbus%20A318/b07057c8-1.jpg

Simon.



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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 13):
Simon.

So that was A318 Elite MSN 1910 D-AUAA (for Comlux as HB-IPP), re-registered F-WWsomething (F-WWIB??) for the LCY tests.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4975 times:

Quoting Breiz (Reply 14):
So that was A318 Elite MSN 1910 D-AUAA (for Comlux as HB-IPP)

Seems I got lucky.....

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 6):
Airbus should really send it in ELITE fitment!



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User currently offlineTurnleftalways From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

68 ton payload fantastic. It performed better than I thought! Perhaps your view from Essex wasn't as good as mine! Thanks for the info, very kind indeed.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 11):
Actually, it had (I believe) around a 68 ton payload inside



Quoting Turnleftalways (Reply 16):
68 ton payload fantastic. It performed better than I thought

There is no freaking way an A318 can lift 68 tonnes of payload. Its MTOW is 68 tonnes (in the "HGW" version), but not the payload.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4523 times:
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Has Airbus kind of given up on selling the A318 as a pax aircraft and instead focus more on the Elite version?

Is the PW6000 as good as it was supposed to be?

Is there a huge potential at LCY or is it more hype for extra publicity?



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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4494 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 18):
Has Airbus kind of given up on selling the A318 as a pax aircraft and instead focus more on the Elite version?
Is the PW6000 as good as it was supposed to be?
Is there a huge potential at LCY or is it more hype for extra publicity?

Airbus will obviously continue to offer it as an airliner and sell to whoever wants to buy.
Don't know about the PW6000.
Certifying the A318 for LCY should attract attention from European A320 family airlines (AF, BA, LH, IB, AZ,...) and therefore increase the possibilities to sell the A318.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4475 times:

Yes, the new version of the PW6000 has solved the fuel burn problem.


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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 20):
Yes, the new version of the PW6000 has solved the fuel burn problem.

The PW6000A is supposed to be on LAN Chile's A318 order, but those aircraft are taking forever to be delivered. Is LAN contemplating conversion to the A319 too?



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting Breiz (Reply 19):
Certifying the A318 for LCY should attract attention from European A320 family airlines (AF, BA, LH, IB, AZ,...) and therefore increase the possibilities to sell the A318.

The question remains, is it even practical to operate an A318 into LCY? Think especially in terms of its wingspan, which compared to all those turboprops and RJs which fly there, is huge.

Quoting Breiz (Reply 14):
F-WWIB??

Yes, if you click on the picture, you'll be able to see clearly that the current testreg is F-WWIB.

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 21):
The PW6000A is supposed to be on LAN Chile's A318 order, but those aircraft are taking forever to be delivered. Is LAN contemplating conversion to the A319 too?

I thought LA switched the A318 order in favour of more A319s.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 22):
Yes, if you click on the picture, you'll be able to see clearly that the current testreg is F-WWIB.

I was told in another thread the original F-WWIB demo aircraft was subsequently delivered to F9. I think Airbus use F-WWIB as test and certification registration until the airframe is delivered, then reuse it (and others in the sequence, i.e., F-WWIC, etc.) in case of multi-frame orders.



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4169 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 22):
question remains, is it even practical to operate an A318 into LCY? Think especially in terms of its wingspan, which compared to all those turboprops and RJs which fly there, is huge.

They are building additional ramp space at LCY. This should solve the problem to some extent. Also LCY has explicitly stated that because of the movement caps they will be trying to improve passenger numbers by attracting larger aircraft rather than more movement, a strategy that should suit A318 sales.

The A318 may be attractive for existing A32X operators such as Alitalia, Iberia, British Airways, Air France, Austrian, Swiss, SAS as they can use the A318 for peak-time flights into LCY and during the day for thin routes from their hubs. While they might nit be terribly cost-effective on those routes, the high yiels on th LCY services probably will off-set this. After all, those airlines have little choice if they do not want to go for the E175.


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 25, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 18):
Has Airbus kind of given up on selling the A318 as a pax aircraft and instead focus more on the Elite version?

Soon we will see this new operator:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=3268


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