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New A320 Operator: Shanghai Airlines  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4135 posts, RR: 90
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3268 times:
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At least I believe these would be the first A320s for Shanghai Airlines

SHANGHAI, Oct 24 (Reuters) - Chinese regional carrier Shanghai Airlines Co. Ltd. , a long-time loyal customer of Boeing , may turn to Airbus as it expands its fleet, executives of the airline said on Tuesday.

"We are seriously considering ordering some A320s, and we have good reasons to do so," Shanghai Airlines chairman Zhou Chi told Reuters on the sidelines of an industry event in Shanghai.

Industry sources told Reuters on Tuesday that the regional carrier might order five A320s and could make a public announcement at an air show in Shenzhen at the end of this month.

"Still, that is hardly a victory for Airbus as they are not new orders," a source close to the carrier said. "They are part of the 150 A320s signed up by Airbus late last year."


http://asia.news.yahoo.com/061024/3/2rsk7.html

Regards, PanAm_DC10


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User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1710 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
"We are seriously considering ordering some A320s, and we have good reasons to do so," Shanghai Airlines chairman Zhou Chi told Reuters on the sidelines of an industry event in Shanghai.

Like the Government saying "We will not approve any new Boeing Airplanes for your fleet until you take XX number of 150 A320 commitments"

Sounds too familiar.....

Cheers


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
Industry sources told Reuters on Tuesday that the regional carrier might order five A320s and could make a public announcement at an air show in Shenzhen at the end of this month.

Anyone know if it's a big show - ie will we get some announcments of orders?


User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

The irony to this is that Boeing has invested 65 million in a maintenance facility there. B owns 60%, Shanghai Airlines 15% and the airport the remaining 25%. A will sell them, B will maintain them. You have to chuckle.


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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4135 posts, RR: 90
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2947 times:
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Shanghai Airlines have confirmed this order today, it is from last years GTA for 150 x A32X series;

Fair use excerpt;

By Jianguo Jiang
Oct. 31 (Bloomberg) -- Shanghai Airlines Co., China's fifth-biggest carrier by sales, said it plans to buy five Airbus SAS A320 aircraft to expand its fleet.

The planes will cost about $305 million, the company said in a statement to the Shanghai stock exchange today.


Source: Shanghai Airlines via http://www.bloomberg.com

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Shenzhen Airshow, There is no such thing!

Can you people EVER accept any carrier ordering Airbus products? If they did not want the A320 they would not get them... sure this kind of thing would Never happen in America.......


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4135 posts, RR: 90
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2860 times:
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Quoting N754PR (Reply 5):
Shenzhen Airshow, There is no such thing!

I think the report meant Zhuhai Air Show

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21496 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

And this is why Boeing doesn't book the orders until the Chinese carrier actually signs up for them.

What's so silly is that there is no "choice" here at all.

All 150 Boeings have been accounted for. Unless China is willing to place another 150 jet order, that's all she wrote for 737NGs in China until Boeing agrees to open up a plant and transfer intellectual property and technology to China. (I supposed there might be a "good will" order of 30 739ER or something, but that won't come right away.)

Thus if Shanghai needs more jets for internal growth, they tell the government, and the government says: "well, we have 220 A320s to choose from. Which 5 would you like?"  Wink



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

German media reports it is actually for 5 A321s, not A320. Seems that we will need clarification about this one.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21496 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting N754PR (Reply 5):
If they did not want the A320 they would not get them...

Come on. They have no choice in the matter. They don't buy planes directly. The Chinese government buys planes. Then they are allotted. There are no more 737NG to be allotted, but there are over 200 A320s still without assignment.

It's not a free market, so please don't try and convince us they are making a free market choice here.

Which is not to say that they don't WANT the planes. Heck, they may have wanted A320s for a long time! But the government only alloted them Boeings. The airline might be saying, internally: "finally, we got the planes we wanted!"

We'll never know, really.



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4135 posts, RR: 90
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
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Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 8):
German media reports it is actually for 5 A321s, not A320. Seems that we will need clarification about this one.

Can we change the title to "Shanghai Airlines: New A321 Operator"?  Wink

Shanghai Airlines becomes new Airbus customer by ordering five A321s 31 October 2006

Shanghai Airlines has signed a contract with Airbus for the purchase of five A321s at the Zhuhai Airshow, making it a new Airbus customer and positioning the airline to become the 11th A320 family operator on the Chinese Mainland.

The five A321s are part of the 150 A320 family aircraft ordered under the General Terms Agreement (GTA) signed between Airbus and China Aviation Supplies Import and Export Group Corporation (CASGC) in December 2005, when the Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visited France.


http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre..._10_31_shangai_airlines_A321s.html

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlinePEK18R36L From China, joined Dec 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

All I can say is about time. Their fleet has been in need of refresh for a while.

David



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