MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15734 posts, RR: 48 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8914 times:
That is awful. Then again so is the whole AZ business so maybe that's what they're going for .
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1821 posts, RR: 26 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8633 times:
Quoting Nycfly75 (Reply 6): It is Bad!!! A lot of people in Italian Aviation circles are mourning today.
I checked on aviazionecivile.it and not evreryone dislikes it. I really like it, makes the MD look kind of younger. However, without a doubt, I prefer the previous livery...
I think that It'll look much better for sure on the other members of the fleet. Actually, I never liked how the MD looked with the old paint scheme...
Per me va bene, FORZA ALITALIA!
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
Dtonelli75 From Italy, joined Aug 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8633 times:
...well, that's great!
here in Italy there's just plenty of newspaper articles describing the catastrophic financial
situation of AZ: the CEO saying "the more we fly, the more we loose", 3 more months
of AZ life expected with current money, ongoing meeting with the Italian government and what's the first outcome?
Substantial reorganization of the company? renewal of the management? The long awaited bankruptcy for a rebirth on a renewed (better) basis?
No, not at all.
Just throwing out some more money with a new paint-job for the 170+ planes.
But, of course, that's Alitalia, a company on the edge of bankruptcy since 1998 whose CEO (Mr. Cimoli) earns 190,375 Euro ($240,000 approx.) a month + benefits, to be compared with AF CEO (30,000 Euro i.e. $38,000), KLM CEO (45,000 Euro i.e. $56,500), or with BA CEO (64,700 i.e. $81,300), in a country (Italy) where a primary school teacher after 20 years of earns 1200 Euro a month.
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Ikarus2006 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 187 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8478 times:
Sad!
I know some unfortunate owners of shares of Alitalia who will just get very annoyed by this new livery.
First, because in such catastrophic economical situation a new livery is the last thing to do (but many politicians in Italy love the art of cosmetics to keep the things on the apparence up and running, don't they?).
Second because it is not even that nice - it just screams "our airline is not able to change for good, we love the tiny changes that allow the people who have been consuming all the finances so far to just keep doing that until AZ will die and there wil be no responsible person to blame"
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9616 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8376 times:
The Italians have the best designers. Something that absolutely doesn´t show here. A tired update of a once great, but by now dated livery. The added grey underbelly doesn´t make sense. A chance wasted, and money wasted.
Fitting though to the occasion is that they "launch" this redisign on their most dated aircraft type.
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7900 times:
Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 18):
A side not: I personally think this livery here created by Nycfly75 (or one of his friends) looks 100 times better:
Right. And that's where I get irked. If this had been the new livery, the people screaming about how a "classic livery has been destroyed" would have been the first to praise the designers. Just because it's a subtle change doesn't mean it's bad. If you dislike it, say so, but don't whine about destroying the best livery in the world when you're just disappointed it's a small change and not the radical makeover we would all have liked. Sorry to sound angry, I'm not, I just find it ironic.
I personally love the new colors, I just think the engines should be white, red, or green, but definitely not grey.
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MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7749 times:
It looks more retro to me. I wish they'd get a better design.
N600RR From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7620 times:
Come on guys...the new livery really doesn't look that bad. Besides, the new scheme really emphasizes the windows. I'm sure management thought AZ wasn't getting as many pax because the old livery gave the illusion that the plane was just a windowless freighter...
My
"And the fluffy white lines that the airplane leaves behind are drifting right in front of the waning of the moon" -Cake
IL96M From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7527 times:
CHE SCHIFO!!!!!!!!
About as bad as what KL did to theirs...
25 TIMEAIR: Totally agree...it has a fresh look and creative style....something that Italy is known for on the other "runways", but unfortunately not the ones ai
26 Buck3y3nut: " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...K.jpg that is so much better. Please send this design to Alitalia.
27 Gunsontheroof: *sigh* For the trillionth time people...planes need to be repainted on a scheduled basis. "Design" costs aside, Alitalia isn't spending any money her
28 FL370: this scheme reminds me of Martinere(think thats how you spell it) all they did was made the tail design bigger! wasn't that amazing!! looks horiffic!!
30 CO7e7: No one is whining Kid! Read before you post. Zaki
31 SkyHigh777: Wow that is atrocious. It looks so plain, like every other european livery now! I used to love how "oldschool" AZ's livery looked! Oh well...
32 KA501: Awful !!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks as though they have just lowered the old scheme half a meter!
33 ZBA320: Am I the only one who thinks it looks good?! :P
34 JonnyGT: Oddly enough, it reminds me of the beautiful livery of Ozark Air.
35 B707Stu: For what it's worth, I like the new one better than the old. Cleaner, easier to read Alitalia... though I really liked the one someone put on another
36 787KQ: This is not a new livery, it's an update of the current one, to make it cleaner, just like KLM's update. I can't imagine that Alitalia would have any
38 RDACCO: It's so bad! But it's not only for the new scheme... it's bad that a company like Alitalia that will be in bankrupt in the next three months (it is no
39 RDACCO: Please take note that for this type of changing they (Alitalia) for sure spend some money for designers, architectural reports and suggestions, commi
40 MIAMIx707: It looks better with the grey bottom. I would have moved the grey up a little bit more and it might make the scheme a bit more elegant. says who? The
41 Pronto: I thought the "sneek preview" I saw earlier may have just been an aircraft on lease or something, but it was actually the new livery? All I can say is
42 MauriceB: It suprises me that the people known for its modius live style can create something as cheap as this. then again, with all the things going on with Al
43 YYZYYT: Was it not just yesterday that I was reading a thread about longest lived liveries in current use, with AZ and AA as hands-down winners? Oh well. I fo
44 777way: AZ's livery would have looked better and more chic had it been all silver, with this new logo and metallic charcoal coloured billboard titles in all s
45 Ariis: I think removing the black nose alone was worth the change. Now waiting for Malev to follow. Sorry, I just can't stand those Snoopy-like noses. FAO
46 JoeCattoli: Well... i don't know what all the people find so awful about this livery... remember that u have to get used to each change and it takes a little of t
47 ME AVN FAN: I prefer(red) the old livery, but the new one is nice also. Just a waste of money, a bit difficult to understand in view of the general situation at
48 Mainliner: I really don't think it looks that bad. I'm very pleased that it's not another crappy EuroWhite scheme.
49 MIAMIx707: No way. The colored nose is what makes the Malev livery cool. If it wasn't for that it would not be as nice and distinctive. That scheme is sharp. Ni