Gh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10251 times:
I was just thinking yesterday - why do all of United's aircraft - especially the 777s and 747s alway look way bigger than all of the other aircraft at an airport. Ever noticed?
I'm especially talking about the old grey livery. Was this their intention when they designed it?
SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10165 times:
Quoting Gh123 (Thread starter): I'm especially talking about the old grey livery.
While the new livery isn't bad, I really liked the gray livery they started using in the early 1990s and thought they gave up on it too soon.
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Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10106 times:
Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 1): Have to say I have never thought for one moment they did.
I agree. They do not look bigger than any other airlines aircraft.
FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9996 times:
Quoting Runway777 (Reply 6): i always think they look bigger. i work at YYC and they look much larger than an AC plane. but thats jjust my idea.
It's not that United's jets look bigger, it's that they aren't Eurowhite. White jets appear smaller, I believe, and it seems to me that the old red and gray NW 744's and DC10s look bigger than the new white ones. My guess is that optical illusion probably works similarly for UA, especially on their old gray livery...the new white and blue probably not as much. Just my opinion though.
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Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2985 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9998 times:
Agree with the thread poster on this....some airlines' livery make their aircraft look bigger than similar aircraft of other airlines....
As an example, AI 747's always look bigger than others...but the AI 777 looks smaller.....obviously it's just an optical illusion created by the livery and lines, etc....
Gh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9976 times:
If you put an American Airlines 777 (or an Emirates, BA etc) next to a United one, the United one will look much bigger.
I promise.
Earlier this year I was flying with my girlfriend - and she knows nothing about aircraft.
I was telling her what was what and then she said 'If they are the same type of plane, why is that United one bigger than that one(talking about an EK 777)?'
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9941 times:
Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 3): I really liked the gray livery they started using in the early 1990s and thought they gave up on it too soon.
They had that livery for 13 years and it was disliked for just as long. Further, it harkens back to the Steven Wolf era, which is not a popular one with employees. The new livery is much better, though it isn't as nice as the 1970s-1980s Saul Bass livery
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Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 7): It's not that United's jets look bigger, it's that they aren't Eurowhite. White jets appear smaller, I believe, and it seems to me that the old red and gray NW 744's and DC10s look bigger than the new white ones. My guess is that optical illusion probably works similarly for UA, especially on their old gray livery...the new white and blue probably not as much. Just my opinion though.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9840 times:
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 7): White jets appear smaller, I believe, and it seems to me that the old red and gray NW 744's and DC10s look bigger than the new white ones.
Their new livery is silver.
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Jafa From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9648 times:
Aircraft that have lines along the fuselage appear longer because your eye follows the line. Similar to how you can look fatter, slimmer, taller shorter by the clothing you wear. We have all heard black is slimming and so on and so on...
ORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1370 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9641 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 10): They had that livery for 13 years and it was disliked for just as long.
The gray livery lasted 11 years, from January 1993 to February 2004.
WakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1288 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9599 times:
I have heard in football that during the superbowl with 2 teams usually not playing in a home field, the team that wears the darker uniforms has a psychological advantage. This is due to the fact that the darker uniform makes the players appear larger. Maybe that's what you are seeing with the old United scheme.
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SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9467 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 10): though it isn't as nice as the 1970s-1980s Saul Bass livery
Of the four UA liveries that have come and gone in my lifetime, that one probably is the one I remember and like the most. I just haven't become used to the new one yet. It looks nice on their 00 CRJ's coming onto SLC. I'm sure I'll see it sooner or later on an A320, 737 or 757 (occasionally SLC does get a UA 752 from SFO or ORD as a substitute a/c)
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9447 times:
Quoting ORD (Reply 15): The gray livery lasted 11 years, from January 1993 to February 2004.
You are correct. I was just thinking about the current year we are in and the fact that you still see a lot of Wolf Livery aircraft flying.
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ChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1605 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9419 times:
Funny, dark colors are normally slimming.
Working near ORD, I have to agree their aircraft seem bigger, not just quantity, but they do stand out more to me. I am a UA fan, so it could be that I am slightly biased.
I like the old livery, the grey looked great, but I have become quite a fan of the new colors. Maybe because wear and tear is starting to show. It looks great on all the aircraft, but particularly on the 772 and 744s.
N231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9335 times:
Isn't it a woman thing that clothing with horizontal stripes make them look "fat?" Maybe the stripes on UA's scheme make the poor ladies (well...airplanes) look fat.
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9149 times:
Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 16): I have heard in football that during the superbowl with 2 teams usually not playing in a home field, the team that wears the darker uniforms has a psychological advantage. This is due to the fact that the darker uniform makes the players appear larger
I think you have it backward with the football uniforms.
United777atGU From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9112 times:
Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 20): I like the old livery, the grey looked great, but I have become quite a fan of the new colors. Maybe because wear and tear is starting to show. It looks great on all the aircraft, but particularly on the 772 and 744s.
The colors on the 744 make that plane look like it has on blue bloomers (underwear). I thought I liked the colors, and I do, on first glance. After staring for a while though, I get very sick. Someone mentioned this before on another UA thread, but the company should have placed the lines running not over the windows but below the windows, maybe at the same stop as the Wolf/Gray livery. Even with the blue lines being below the windows, I think that may be too much white on top...The 744 is most beautiful with the gray, I believe. The 772 looks great in both blue/white and gray.
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25 Daron4000: From an inside source who designed the battleship gray livery, there was no intention of making the planes appear biggger. They used grey because it w
26 Rikkus67: I believe the use of "United Airlines", rather than just "UNITED" also gives the illusion of a larger aircraft, as the titles spread across a larger p
27 FlyDeltaJets87: Well, United does hub in San Francisco so they probably just grab some from Barry Bonds.
28 Gh123: For the benefit of us foreigners - what is a Barry Bond?
29 FlyDeltaJets87: He plays baseball for the San Francisco Giants, and it's highly suspected that he's used steroids heavily throughout his career.
30 Cadet57: You cant compare any of those shots as they are from slightly different angles and most likely differnt focal lengths.
31 Laxatljfkcvg: I must say UA does not look well in there 744 but it is not just livery that matters the 777 DL looks smaller {look at the nose}.
32 Gh123: If you want to get all specific but the delta plane does look smaller. I often have trouble telling between a Delta 777 and a Delta 767, I have to lo
33 AlexPorter: I was in DEN the other day and there were two 777s in view. However, I was at the north side of the A concourse and I don't recall ever seeing 777s in
34 SJC4Me: Not throughout, just the last few years when he bulked up. He was tiny when he played for the Pirates and his first few years in San Francicso. As fo
35 FlyDeltaJets87: If it's a 767-300, the overwing exits are a dead give away that it's a 767-300. I do however have to think when I look at a 767-400 and a 777-200. Bo
36 Gkpetery: It's funny, because I also thought that United (gray) planes always looked bigger too! I do think that the gray probably has more depth of color which
37 Cadet57: So? That does not have anything to do with a pain job. It just means you cant tell apart diff types of a/c/
38 Gh123: The Delta 777 is the only airliner I have to look twice at and yes, I think a lot of it is because of the paint job, that's all. And, by the way - Do
39 DeltaJet757: Well, with the new livery the white paint makes the planes look bigger. Lighter colors make things look bigger whereas darker colors make things look
40 SkyHigh777: I have to agree. I always thought United's planes looked bigger than other airlines, particularly the 777. When I see an AA 777 and United 777 next to
41 Aero0729: I agree about UA 777s...they always look bigger and mroe majestic. I hate the new colors, they take away that sophisticated upscale UNited look. I wil
42 FlyDeltaJets87: Me too. United's new livery just hasn't grown on me. I think it looks fair (at best) on the 737's and 757's, but anything else it's . Northwest's new
43 Jayce: I agree, look at these Pan Am planes. To me, the top one gives the illusion of a bigger airplane because of the horizontal stripe. View Large View Me
44 Cadet57: Right and you should learn NOT to be such a "nob" when people give an opinion you dont happen to like. Suck it up and stop whining. Baby.
45 Bond007: If someone can tell me what causes the illusion....I'll get a tattoo done tomorrow Jimbo
46 Bongo: It is just an optic illusion...what else it could be? nothing else!!!
49 Bond007: Well, I'm not sure anyone here thought they REALLY were bigger...did they...LOL 99% of the discussions are about the color scheme...yes, giving an il
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