HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4450 posts, RR: 74 Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2953 times:
Here is a short overview again of the most remarkable changes:
KLM - YYZ - increase from daily to 12 weekly, additional flights with B772
KLM - YVR - switch from A332 to MD11
KLM - JFK - increase from twice to three times daily, introduction of A332
KLM - EWR - operated by MD11 and later A332
KLM - IAD - daily flight operated with B772 from July
KLM - LAX - increase from daily to 12 weekly, additional flights with B772
KLM - SFO - switch from MD11 to B744
KLM - LIM - introduction of 6 weekly nonstops with B772
KLM - GYE/UIO - introduction of 6th weekly frequency via BON with MD11
KLM - CUR - aircraft change to daily nonstop with MD11
KLM - NBO - switch from B772 to B744
KLM - DXB - reduced to 10 weekly
KLM - HYD - increase to 5 weekly with MD11
KLM - SIN - aircraft change to B772
KLM - PVG - increase from daily to 9 weekly with B74E, already this winter
KLM - CTU - increase from twice weekly to 3 times weekly
NW - BOS - additional daily flight with B752
NW - BDL - new daily flight with B752
NW - DTW - increase to 5 daily, additional flight with B752
NW - EWR - introduction of daily morning departure with B752
Paneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 878 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2788 times:
EK wants to fly to ORD, but AMS is one of the stopover options as well as DUS, so I guess it will be DUS............. It's about time they came to AMS. That would be a nice topic wouldn't it. Why no EK flights to AMS ?
It's a conflict that has been going on for years. The sum was, IIRC, that AMS is charging through-the-roof fees. In part because of KL pressure, in part because they're not willing to play on EK's terms, like all those German airports.
"Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as much as you please" -- Mark Twain
Connector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2370 times:
Rumor is out that Tarom Romanian is planing a comeback @ Schiphol next summer, perhaps using one of its two brand spanking new Airbus 318 - scheduled for delivery this November. Since KLM is currently flying three dailies between OTP and AMS, Tarom may consider Timisoara to Amsterdam as a viable alternate route.
Phbug From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2193 times:
I was wondering. Why are airliners, such as, Emirates, Air India, jet Airways, Etihad, Saudia, South African, Thai, Qantas, All Nippon, Asiana, American Airlines etc etc, not have passengersflights to Schiphol. Is there al slot problem or is the KLM the one who blocks them. Amsterdam Airport is one of the biggest airports in Europe and some of these airliners prefer Brussels the last months. Is that something to do that brussels is cheaper.
Paneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 878 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
Quoting Phbug (Reply 11): I was wondering. Why are airliners, such as, Emirates, Air India, jet Airways, Etihad, Saudia, South African, Thai, Qantas, All Nippon, Asiana, American Airlines etc etc, not have passengersflights to Schiphol. Is there al slot problem or is the KLM the one who blocks them.
I can't answer your question totally, but first of all, KLM cannot block any airline from flying to AMS. An airlines request to fly to AMS is handled independently. Of course there has to be room for slots, when requested.
Keep in mind that AMS is not a strong O/D destination. As you probably know Schiphol is, and is designed as a transfer airport. Many of the airlines you mentioned are not member of SKYteam and have no intention or possibilities to use it as a hub.
Some of the airlines you mentioned used to fly to AMS with low frequencies, such as 2 or 3 times per week. Todays intl. carriers are only interested in daily frequencies and this is not profitable for many.
I also wish AA, Thai, SAA and so on would come to AMS and I don' t understand it all the time, but I think this is part of the reason.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9409 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
Quoting Paneuropean (Reply 14): Todays intl. carriers are only interested in daily frequencies and this is not profitable for many.
I would disagree on this as even KL doesn't offer daily flights to all its intercontinental flights. Daily frequencies are not common at all with todays airlines. U.S. airlines were known to have a daily frequency policy on their international flights but even those airlines now adapt the frequencies to the market demand. Especially with today's aviation shape and economical shape offering daily frequencies alone would not be a responsible thing to do. Between key cities a daily frequency is more attractive but other than that, it doesn't have to.