Targowski From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3187 times:
I notice that BA, VS, ANZ, Eva and others have done quite well creating a premium Y product. Other airlines like SQ have premium Y on only certain long haul routes.
While UAL has a barely premium econ +, i'm wondering why larger airlines like CX, AF, KL, AA, etc do not have premium Y products? seems like the market is there for a cost-conscious econ seat with expanded comfort and features, particularly as J class is turning upscale with beds, etc.
Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3157 times:
AF has an eco+ section called Alize class only for routes serving some French overseas department in the Carribeans (Guadeloupe, Martinique) and in the Indian Ocean (Réunion Island). These routes are most leisure flights, with a small business class section. For other long-haul routes, I think AF doesn't want to compromise loads in J and P
Targowski From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3075 times:
I think AF's alize class is pretty much on par with a regular econ seat or at best, UAL's econ +. on those liesure flights, the regular econ class is pretty tight, making alize a premium in comparison.
SkyvanMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
Thai has a premium economy product wthat is basically the same as economy in service except that the seats have 6 inches additional legroom and are wider, this is only on the A345 aircraft operating to/from BKK-LAX and BKK-JFK. I'll be flying it in December or January (I'm gonna upgrade one leg but hte other I'll fly their Prmeium eocnomy)
ANA also has premium economy which they seem to only offer on a few flights and is done on a first come first servered basis.
Eva's premium economy bookign class (on their website) wil be either Evergreen Deluxe (more like premium economy) on the 747s or Elite Class (more like J) on the 777.
Also I believe that hte reason that CX doesnt have premium economy is because they feel that they are doing enough for their economy section, like the implementation of shell style Y seating starting next year.
I personally feel that based on my two long-haul flights on KLM 777 that their normal economy service and seats are great, I would appreciate a little more legroom but really I think that their normal economy service is equal to what some U.S. airlines will give business class (minus a few things like table clothes) on shorter international routes.
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Sky0000547 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2892 times:
VS is doing so well with their premium economy products that they have expanded their W class cabin with more seats in their A346. The market is definitely there with passengers willing to pay almost twice as much as Y for the extra comforts.