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Thoughts On A US And NK Merger?  
User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4181 times:

I guess there is talk around NK about US taking over. It kinda makes sense, it would give US another shot at a FLL focus city.

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

The real question would be why would US want NK except maybe for the planes. I can't imagine the NK would bring anything to the table that would benefit US.

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4055 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

Yeah...NK has the big Caribbean network that US already mostly tossed out the window. Could US make it work again without the competition from NK?

At the very least US could use the planes in a big way.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Bear in mind that Spirit's CEO (Ben Baldanza) is the same person who was the mastermind behind the US Airways FLL focus city. Hmmmm...


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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4071 times:

How are NK's facilities in FLL? Do they have a hangar and how is customs in their terminal? I know that is one of the reasons that US pulled the plug on FLL.

The addition of about 20 321s and 6 319s would go a long way to start a focus city in FLL for serving the Caribbean, Central America and Florida.

It just seems like AA is sitting on a gold mine down there in both south Florida and the Caribbean and US could give them a run for their money.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 4):
How are NK's facilities in FLL? Do they have a hangar and how is customs in their terminal? I know that is one of the reasons that US pulled the plug on FLL.

I don't know the hangar question, but I do know that Spirit's terminal (Terminal Four) is the only one that has customs.



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Interesting combination. I'd think that if any airline wanted NK, it would be NW. It would eliminate some of NW's DTW competition, add some A321s to put on 757 routes(757s could be done for trans-atlantic) and give them a FLL focus city.

User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

me thinks US Airways needs to worry more about their current situation...


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9191 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 6):
Interesting combination. I'd think that if any airline wanted NK, it would be NW. It would eliminate some of NW's DTW competition, add some A321s to put on 757 routes(757s could be done for trans-atlantic) and give them a FLL focus city.

Those 757s could work just as well for transatlantic service from PHL or a reestablished PIT-LGW flight...



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

This would be a great move.

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User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 4):
It just seems like AA is sitting on a gold mine down there in both south Florida and the Caribbean and US could give them a run for their money.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS somebody re start FLL-Central America (PTY please), US had amaizing loads on their PTY flight, and when they pulled the plug fares on AA and CM skyrocketed. NK should look into central america, they could make a fortune and give AA, CM and TA a run for their money.
South florida-Central America is really a goldmine that nobody has touched other than AA, CM and TA, loads are almost always above 80% and fares are ridicoulusly high. I paid almost 800 bucks for a ticket to PTY last december.


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Aren't all of NK's planes leased? If so, doesn't that dispell the argument of US getting NK for its planes?

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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

I believe that most if not all Nk's planes are leased.

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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 11):
Aren't all of NK's planes leased? If so, doesn't that dispell the argument of US getting NK for its planes?

Not really. Acquire the company in whole and you acquire the long-term leases for those planes, too - because you're assuming the old company's debts and obligations. Doesn't mean you have to fly those planes where they're currently being flown.

Oddly, even though the operations have been basically entirely pulled down, FLL remains listed as a "focus city" on the US Airways route map.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 5):
I don't know the hangar question, but I do know that Spirit's terminal (Terminal Four) is the only one that has customs.

Well if that is the case then it would really benefit US since that is the main reason they pulled the plug on FLL.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

How about, NK, F9, and B6?


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 15):
How about, NK, F9, and B6?

I could NK and B6 merging, but it will not happen. NK has first class is not in B6's plan. The most likely canidate is US. HP operates IAE powered planes, so MX isnt an issue.

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