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Kingfisher A380 Routes  
User currently offlineSkyvanMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 224 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8760 times:

I was just lookign at an article about Virgin's delay of hteir A380's and saw that Kingfisher had ordered five superjumbos. I'm wondering what possible routes will be operated by Kingfisher with these aircraft as I dont think any of their current routes would wrrant it.


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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8689 times:

Kingfisher is currently limited to domestic operations due to a Government of India ruling that 5 years of successful operations must elapse before private airlines are permitted to fly overseas sectors. By the time the A380s are delivered this will (probably) have been achieved and Kingfisher will be able to fly internationally.

There are finer points to the GoI's policy and I'm sure someone with greater knowledge will fill in the gaps.


User currently offlineSkyvanMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8572 times:

Oh okay, but any idea what kind of route they'd try ot fly with them? Maybe something like LAX-Bangalore or what, I mean I don't know much about Kingfishe.


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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8361 times:

LAX-BLR
SFO-BOM
BOM-SYD


User currently offlineSkyvanMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8315 times:

Aah Mumbai routes. BTW do you know if Kingfisher will wait for the delivery of these aircraft to go internatioinal or will it try to apply to fly internationally immediately after reaching 5 years of domestic.


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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 4):



Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 4):
Aah Mumbai routes. BTW do you know if Kingfisher will wait for the delivery of these aircraft to go internatioinal or will it try to apply to fly internationally immediately after reaching 5 years of domestic.

Kingfisher has A340-500s on order as well. It need not wait for the A380s to commence international ops. By the time the A345s are delivered, it would have completed 5 years of domestic operations.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8151 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 5):
Kingfisher has A340-500s on order as well

They still haven't firmemed those orders yet but I expect that this will happen before the end of this year.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7965 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 3):
LAX-BLR
SFO-BOM
BOM-SYD

What about NYC/LAX/LHR-BOM?

Wouldn't it be more wise to put in the A380 on LAX-BOM before putting it on LAX-BLR, a route that doesn't even exist yet?

Don't know about BOM-SYD with an A380 - unless they opt for some serious connecting traffic at BOM a la EY, EK, QR. And we all know what the yield environment there will be like in a few years time! Besides, with facilities at BOM... who would ever connect there unless they really had to..

Also, can BOM cope with the A380 at all right now? Not yet, right? I was there two months ago, they were doing a lot of construction (tarmac and taxiways etc.), anybody knows what's going on?

Btw, don't AI fly to LAX anymore? Can't find it. Is it seasonal??

Kevin777



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User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7929 times:

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 7):
Btw, don't AI fly to LAX anymore? Can't find it. Is it seasonal??

AI still flies LAX-DEL via FRA three times weekly. Usually on MON-WED-SAT.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7837 times:

Vijay Mallya Chairman of Kingfisher has on several occasions stated he would definately serve California. Mallya maintains his family residence in the San Francisco suburb of Sausalito.


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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7798 times:

LAX-BLR
SFO-BOM
BOM-SYD
JFK-BOM
IAH-BLR (MAYBE)


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7746 times:

It would be nice to see IAD-DEL


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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8372 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7719 times:
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Maybe the self styled "Richard Branson" of India will acquire another Indian airline.

User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7661 times:

Quoting SkyvanMan (Thread starter):
I'm wondering what possible routes will be operated by Kingfisher

Belgaum to Davangere 2x daily


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 12):
Maybe the self styled "Richard Branson" of India will acquire another Indian airline.

Major difference: Branson is making money with (most) of his airlines. Can't see this happening at all at IT. But okay, Vijaya has what a TRILLION GAZILLION FANTAZILLION Rupees to spent on his flying crownjuwel, so..! But a way to profitability for IT could very well be acquirings of competitors - not to gain their markets as such, but to soften competition.

Btw love IT's livery, it's beatiful! But not as nice as IC's new livery! Gonna try IT in 3-4 weeks time CCU-AMD, after my signature flight with IC!.. Hope it'll be on the new livery!

Kevin777



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7565 times:

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 7):
Also, can BOM cope with the A380 at all right now? Not yet, right? I was there two months ago, they were doing a lot of construction (tarmac and taxiways etc.),

BOM will be 380 certified well b4 airbus's 380 delays are sorted out.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 15):
BOM will be 380 certified well b4 airbus's 380 delays are sorted out

The airstrip on Diu Island will be 380 certified by then..  Silly

Kevin777



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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7475 times:

Kevin777, Try to get pics of the airports and if you ever fly into DEL and can manage pics of its new taxiways, that would be awesome.


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User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7333 times:

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 17):
Kevin777, Try to get pics of the airports and if you ever fly into DEL and can manage pics of its new taxiways, that would be awesome.

I'll see what I can do, I'm flying to DEL in three weeks time, during day-time, so it may be possible.. but my camera isn't exactly a.net-quality..!.. It's a bitch to take pics at Indian Airports, they're so overstaffed that there's always an official looking at YOU.. it can be done, but they come out pretty weird sometimes because you hide the camera under the other hand or something.

Got a nice shot at Diu Airport this weekend though, an excellent spotting place indeed! Sadly, the airport sees 6 ATR's a week, that's ALL..!

Kevin777


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Diu Island, 9W ATR-72 takes off from 23 for BOM via Porbandar



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User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 4):
Aah Mumbai routes



Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 7):
Also, can BOM cope with the A380 at all right now?

Can you just imagine the hell that BOM would be when processing an A380?! Let alone being an A380 home base.. Big, really big changes would be needed for that to happen smoothly.



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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

Kevin777,

Cool pic..It would be nice to see the changes in DEL through pics. I agree with you it being overstaffed, good luck taking pics. I can't wait to see how the new terminal would look in about 4 years.



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User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6685 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 3):
LAX-BLR
SFO-BOM
BOM-SYD



Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 10):
LAX-BLR
SFO-BOM
BOM-SYD
JFK-BOM
IAH-BLR (MAYBE)

I dont know how IT can have any A380 service to BLR! it is not a 380 certified airport. It's going to be out of BOM & DEL initially, later other cities may come in to picture.



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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6515 times:

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 21):
I dont know how IT can have any A380 service to BLR! it is not a 380 certified airport.

Bangalore (BLR) is getting a new airport which, if I am not mistaken, will be A380 certified.



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6449 times:

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 18):
s a bitch to take pics at Indian Airports

When I was in MAA in Dec. (BOM-MAA; IXM-MAA; MAA-DXB) there was, atop the international terminal, a long indoors viewing deck. OK, so it was night, but I suspect in the daytime the views would be good. And there wasn't a single official in sight. I have flown into DEL a few times (e.g. on SU IL96 and 772) and into BOM (AI 744; IC 320), but can't recall many, if any, viewing possibilities there. However, while taxiing at BOM (after LHR-BOM = 7.5 hours non-stop; AI 744), I could see an endless amount of parked-for-the-night aircraft. If you're a spotter, get your binoculars and notepad ready!



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2352 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6043 times:

I remember a thread awhile ago where it said that Kingfisher might also serve DXB at some point with the A380.


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25 BlrBird : Sorry dude! new airport (BIAL) runway code is 4E (certified for 747 series). According to ICAO an airport should have runway code 4F for 380 operatio
26 Gemuser : AGAIN with the mis information!!! The A380 will be certified to use any airport the B744 can, unless there is a local limitation interfering (such as
27 Mk777 : I am assuming there will be no IT non-stop routes from DEL?
28 Post contains links Blrsea : . Nope, A380 might be able to use any runway which is used by 747, but ICAO has separate runway code 4F for A380 which recommends wider runways and t
29 Gemuser : Key word is "RECOMMENDS" its NOT mandatory. If the A380 is certified to use runways and taxiways that are 4E it can! And Airbus says it will be. The
30 Kaitak744 : Why? There is much too much competition on USA-India for an airline like Kingfisher to put an A380 on the route. I honestly think the kangaroo route
31 AirIndia : whats ur schedule, wud you have time to meet up. Am in DEL. enjoyed the Nagoa beach?
32 Post contains images Kevin777 : I've flown out of DEL on a SU IL96 once.. Anyways, it is difficult to spot in India I think unless you're doing it from the inside of an a/c, but thi
33 Karan69 : VJM had stated that he would like to fly BOM-NYC with a A380 configured in 496 seats that was wat the press release said when they ordere the aircraft
34 Kevin777 : I'm just in transfer in Delhi sadly (my signature flight) - staying in Ahmedabad for another month though Oh yes.. But not as much as the drunk local
35 Kaitak744 : Would you like to state your reason? EK, SQ, MS, CX, TG all do the kangaroo route. India is in the center of the two countries, thus making it the mo
36 Kevin777 : Would you like look at my previous posts?: I even repeated it! Exactly. So do other airlines as well. But they're pulling out for good reasons. As I
37 Mk777 : All i want is a non-stop service from IAD-DEL..whether it be IT, AI or UA!!
38 AirIndia : i have spent a good 3 years in Baroda and Anand. We used to often drive down to Diu for our booze binges... smetimes to Mt. Abu also.
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