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Etihad JFK-AUH Connecting Flights  
User currently offlineJFK998 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

As many of you know Etihad Airways has started their service to New York JFK with daily A340-500 service non-stop to Abu Dhabi. When going to the Etihad website to see what the connecting situation is like for passengers that are looking to fly onwards from AUH to places such as Pakistan, India, etc. the transit times in AUH are terrible!!

For example:

EY 504 departs JFK at 22:10, arriving AUH at 20:25 (+1)
if you wanted to connect onwards to Karachi, Pakistan..
EY 221 departs AUH at 02:00, arriving KHI at 05:05

Just an example, connecting in AUH for this itinerary is 6 hours more or less..
The connection for Mumbai is worse!

EY 504 arrives AUH at 22:10, if you were to connect on to BOM, the flight departs at 03:05, thats 7 hours!

Now call me crazy, but who would want to transit through AUH for this amount of time?! If they want to compete with EK on this route, they need to up their frequencies or change their flight schedules a little bit becuase I wouldnt want to transit in AUH that long, hell I wouldnt wanna transit through DXB that long!

Am I missing something? Are they planning to adjust their schedules or is this the real deal? Becuase if it is, as much as I have always wanted to fly EY as their service is supposed to be good, I cant transit through DXB that long if Im on the way to Karachi.. thats just too much.

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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

Just saw the EY A340-500 on finals for the first time, landing 13L. Nice looking plane, and a great addition to the JFK portfolio.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

Quoting JFK998 (Thread starter):

Am I missing something? Are they planning to adjust their schedules or is this the real deal? Becuase if it is, as much as I have always wanted to fly EY as their service is supposed to be good, I cant transit through DXB that long if Im on the way to Karachi.. thats just too much.

 checkmark ...you bring up a perfect example I can relate to...I've flown EK's (SFO)-JFK-DXB-KHI route before....after 15 hours from JFK-DXB..the last thing I wanted to do was sit @ an airport for 5 hours......

Even though I now fly SJC-ORD-LHR-DXB-KHI, its nice to know that I can schedule my trip knowing that I wont' have to sit in the airport at DXB for 5 hours...it wasn't like that 8-9 years ago.....

EK has 4 daily DXB-KHI flights...so if one misses a flight, there is another one to take....

I expect EY to straighten out their route structures so the timings are better..

Cheers..



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User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 1):
Just saw the EY A340-500 on finals for the first time, landing 13L. Nice looking plane, and a great addition to the JFK portfolio.

I saw it last night at the last seconds before touch down. I was rampside with some friends at Gate 27 IAT. I had to point out the aircraft to them. Port Authority brought out the works to welcome this inaugaral flight with the escourts and water cannons. After the down load I had a quick peek inside the aircraft and I must say it is impressive. After seeing the pics here on Airliners.net and seeing it in real was awsome.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4751 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

EYs flights connect very well via AUH to 2 key markets i.e. LHE and DAC which have connections under 4 hours on the outbound sector.

yes the connection for BOM is terrible but their fares maybe so attractive that pax are willing to give up some sort of inconvenience in order to get a good deal...but on the other hand i have noticed that due to the rising spare disposable income of the Indian NRI middle class community in USA and Canada, they are willing to pay upto USD100 extra for an airline that takes time ONE STOP from USA (with a transit under 5 hours in EU/Asia) to their city in India rather than have 2 stops enroute.

this i believe Sean mentioned very correctly as to why KLM changed their AMS-SFO flight timings to cater to this market segment as well as effectively compete against the future threat of nonstop INDIA-USA-INDIA flights by multiple airlines.


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4497 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
this i believe Sean mentioned very correctly as to why KLM changed their AMS-SFO flight timings to cater to this market segment as well as effectively compete against the future threat of nonstop INDIA-USA-INDIA flights by multiple airlines

You are correct, although it is not the KLM AMS-SFO flight which is changing schedules. KLM and Northwest are starting a veritable early morning transatlantic departure bank, with 8am departures to Los Angeles, Boston, Newark and Detroit, to counter the soaring number of nonstops and alternative connecting flights from places like DXB, AUH, ACC and BOM. Passengers traveling between the Subcontinent, the Middle East and Africa and the US will have the option of a very smooth early morning connections at AMS, allowing for a total journey time which is supposed to be very competitive when compared to non traditional options.


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 3247 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
yes the connection for BOM is terrible but their fares maybe so attractive that pax are willing to give up some sort of inconvenience in order to get a good deal...but on the other hand

Hi mate you are absolutely right on that regard--and EY is quick to capitalise on that their introductory fare on BOM-AUH-JFK is 28K pls taxes so around 950 USD return all inclusive

Karan


User currently offlineVincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Quoting JFK998 (Thread starter):
Just an example, connecting in AUH for this itinerary is 6 hours more or less..
The connection for Mumbai is worse!

EY 504 arrives AUH at 22:10, if you were to connect on to BOM, the flight departs at 03:05, thats 7 hours!

If AUH has pay-per-use lounge that let you take showers and sleep for a few hours, that wouldn't be so bad.


User currently offlineDetroitflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 2985 times:

i really dont understand y soo many middle eastern cities operate flights into nyc..... they really should be operatiing them into dtw.. since detroit has the largest arab population in the country.. any thoughts?? i mean rj has that common sense


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Quoting JFK998 (Thread starter):
Now call me crazy, but who would want to transit through AUH for this amount of time?!

I will tell you who gonna transit through AUH! The people don't care about waiting for a long time, but care about their money  Wink In comparisation to EK they are almost 100EURO cheaper.

And please take a closer look at this schedules:

EY703 | 21:30 | AUH-BAH
EY705 | 21:30 | AUH-DOH
EY707 | 21:30 | AUH-MCT
EY715 | 21:30 | AUH-DMM
EY403 | 21:55 | AUH-BKK
EY427 | 01:25 | AUH-MNL
EY423 | 01:45 | AUH-CGK
EY201 | 01:30 | AUH-CMB

the first four examples show, that they have very good connections to middle eastern cities. the last four shows the connections to far east. so in my eye they have good connections...


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4497 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
so in my eye they have good connections...

EY's fleet and network is still too small for the airline to apply a through hub and spoke network model as operated by EK at its DXB hub. As EY grows, one will see connectivity being optimized and a hub and spoke model with synchronized waves of arriving and departing banks of flights being applied. For the time being, the airline has to live with less than desirable connectivity if it wants to keep its aircraft utilization rates at acceptable levels.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2872 times:
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We have the same problem from BRU (and subsequantly from YYZ...), the connection throught AUH to BKK just sucks...

But as HB-IWC mentions their feelt is growing and growing and good connection will undoubtly be provided very soon...


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User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 2):
Even though I now fly SJC-ORD-LHR-DXB-KHI, its nice to know that I can schedule my trip knowing that I wont' have to sit in the airport at DXB for 5 hours...it wasn't like that 8-9 years ago.....

That's a crazy routing. How doing SFO-HKG-KHI?

Unrelated: How has EK been affected by EY's commencement of service?


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