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Less Than Half Capacity Being Flown?  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 378 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

there were a total of 80 passengers minus the crew on the hijacked Saudi Arabian 777, isnt that a 300 plus capacity a/c? on the PIA 747-300 that was carrying the CE of Pakistan from NewYork to Islamabad(the flight that got the bomb threat and had to return to JFK) there were also just 80 passengers on board, why are these large capacity a/c made to fly more then half empty services, dosent the airline go at a loss this way 


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User currently offlineLxlgu From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

I once flew SAA from Johannesburg to Frankfurt
with 747 200-only 15 pax on board.We were delayed
on departure because of loading extra freight.
Freight can make up for low pax loads.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

I've flown ATL-AMS on a KLM B767-300. Only 30 pax in ecomomy and a few Business class (I guess 15). I've been told that the number of passengers on a off season Monday can be very low as it is not a very popular time to travel.

Another reason why these scheduled flights leave is that maybe only the inbound or the outbound flight is profitable. Furthermore, scheduled service means that the service has to go ahead regardless of the number of passengers. Finnaly, don't forget that a flight can be very probitable if the majority onboard are high yield passengers.

Regards
Laurens Janssen


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

While it is low season, I agree that the 2 subject flights were very "light". Do not forget that many airlines (mainly those that are gov't owned) keep certain routes on their timetables for international prestige and not pure economics. After recent problems with India and Pakistan, I do not think PIA is the most popular airline with US or European pax, and Saudi Arabian flies many of its flights with light-loads, but with well-paying premium class pax, as mentioned above - at least Saudi Arabian does not have to worry about fuel prices!

User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

I remember seeing a report on 1-1-2000 saying that people were afraid of flying and the flight to JNB form HKG on 31-12-1999, there were only 20+ passengers on board and all Y class passengers were upgraded to C class! What a good luck on CX's flight........

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

I was on a Condor DC10 FRA-MUC with about 20 pax - the plane had about 370 seats.
Daniel 


User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

I was once on a CO 733 from MSP-IAH, it was a very early departure and there was only about 10 people on the plane.

User currently offlineAussieErj145 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Many Many moons ago I left LAX on a Qantas 747-200 to Hawaii and on to Sydney. This aircraft had about 30 pax in economy. In Hawaii we hubbed with the QF flight from SFO, which then flew to Fiji and Melbourne.
After Hawaii the Sydney flight was about half full and I guess the other one was too.


User currently offlineNJTurnpike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1080 times:

On a redeye LHR-bound Virgin 744 about 2 years ago, there were only about 50 of us in Economy. I could just strrrrrretch out along my row and go to sleep.

~NJTurnpike



User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3474 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

AA used to fly B767-200 SAN-ORD redeye flight with an average 30-50 passenger load for years. Needed to be 767 due to large volumn of fresh cut flowers being flown in the cargo holds every night.


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