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Photo Of Boeing 787 Section Being Transported  
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32747 times:

Click!

 bigthumbsup 

R

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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32809 times:

RobK...there have been quite a few 787 barrel photos around...here is one from Boeing's web site a while ago..




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User currently offlineN31029 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32652 times:

Quoting RobK (Thread starter):
Click!

Hi RobK. Thanks for your enthusiasm, and, good eye! I did enjoy the "candid" perspective of your photo.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
there have been quite a few 787 barrel photos around...here is one from Boeing's web site a while ago

Hi Jacobin777. Thanks, as always, for being one of A.net's premier contributors. I don't know how you maintain such an extensive knowledge base of aviation news and information, but, you do. You are simply amazing (as is your namesake aircraft!)

I think it is exciting to "witness" the birth of the Dreamliner step-by-step. Almost as much fun as having a baby (easy for us males to say!)  Silly

Blessings, N31029



John 3:16
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32564 times:

Bit smaller than you expect isn't it. The J cabin mockup of the 787 seems much more spacious


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32490 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
RobK...there have been quite a few 787 barrel photos around...here is one from Boeing's web site a while ago..

 Sad

Quoting N31029 (Reply 2):
Hi RobK. Thanks for your enthusiasm, and, good eye! I did enjoy the "candid" perspective of your photo.

Thanks but I can't take the credit for the photo, it's credit of Matt Cawby / Skyline Photography.

R


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 32518 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
RobK...there have been quite a few 787 barrel photos around...here is one from Boeing's web site a while ago..

Whoops...don't know what happened there..but here is the photo..



Source:Boeing Media...

Quoting N31029 (Reply 2):

Hi Jacobin777. Thanks, as always, for being one of A.net's premier contributors. I don't know how you maintain such an extensive knowledge base of aviation news and information, but, you do. You are simply amazing (as is your namesake aircraft!)

Thank you very much for the kind word N31029.... Smile

I think I need a life outside A.net.. blockhead 

Actually I'm on my way to SJC to take some photos...which unfortunately includes AA's last 777 flight from NRT (AA is ending SJC-NRT-SJC after 15 years)....in fact, there will be no more 777's @ NRT..only a few 767's..that's about it..such a sad loss... Sad

Quoting N31029 (Reply 2):
I think it is exciting to "witness" the birth of the Dreamliner step-by-step. Almost as much fun as having a baby (easy for us males to say!)  silly 

I agree, it's amazing to see how such a new plane is transforming and being built....I've seen a video of a mandrel spinning the fuselsage of the 787..simply amazing! I wish I could find it though... Sad



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineHamster From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 31043 times:

When are they going to have one up and flying?

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 30953 times:

Quoting N31029 (Reply 2):

Have you been smoking something?


Sorry just a while since we have seen such enthusiasm on here. Big grin At first I though you were being a sarcastic son of a b**** then I realised yhou weren't. Big grin


User currently offlinePhxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 29422 times:

Will all the pieces come pre-painted or is it just because it is the first piece they wanted it to look nice.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 29241 times:

Quoting Hamster (Reply 6):
When are they going to have one up and flying?

In less than 1 year. Sometime during Q3 2007.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8957 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 29068 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 3):
Bit smaller than you expect isn't it. The J cabin mockup of the 787 seems much more spacious

Probably due to the thinner-than-usual skin due to composite usage.



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineRIHNOSAUR From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 28563 times:

hello,

not to steal the thread but still related,

could some one expand or explain how composite parts are painted....for B or A.
I ask this because it seems the composite parts on AA's A300's are painted differently than the aluminum parts...
Is it the same case for the 787...it looks this way based on the picture shown above

cheers



particles and waves are the same thing, but who knows what that thing is...
User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 28487 times:

Funny if that got into the DB.

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 28288 times:

I have no idea how 8 or 9 seats abreast are going to be fit in that fuselage barrell. It must just be my perspective, but that thing does not look very wide at all! I wish there was a person or something standing nearby so as to gain some perspective. Just looking at the door though, and the windows (which I know are proportionally larger) I just can't picture it. oh well!

Edit: Typographical Error

[Edited 2006-10-28 21:28:02]


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User currently offlineRIHNOSAUR From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 28034 times:

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 13):
It must just be my perspective, but that thing does nto look very wide at all!

it probably is just an optical/perspective thing...

I also thought that maybe this pic is towards the back or front of the plane, so the section we are seeing naturally tapers and we are looking at the tapered section.
I am not sure...just a thought....maybe you an figure it out by the paint. door and windows (what section we are looking at)....??



particles and waves are the same thing, but who knows what that thing is...
User currently offlineRheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 28033 times:

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 13):
I have no idea how 8 or 9 seats abreast are going to be fit in that fuselage barrell. It must just be my perspective, but that thing does nto look very wide at all!

Beware that the barrel above (Reply 1) is a conical rear section, what you see is the rear end, where the cross-section is already reduced in area. Moreover, the large cabin windows are quite deceptive, they make barrels look decidedly single-aisle to me.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 27778 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 9):
In less than 1 year. Sometime during Q3 2007.

Too late for Paris, but definitely in time for Farnborough.


User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 27680 times:

Me too! That thing looks just like the fuselage of a 797 (Y1, 737RS, what have you). I think part of the problem is that brace in the middle appears to be about as wide as a walkway, but it must be much larger. I think its just funny how tha camera can play tricks. Now how wide is the 787 in relation to the 777, A34/30, A350XWB, etc?


Sic 'em bears
User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 27341 times:

Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 8):
Will all the pieces come pre-painted or is it just because it is the first piece they wanted it to look nice.

One of the things Boeing are testing is how well the paint adheres. I believe different test barrel sections are getting different paint compounds.

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 17):
Now how wide is the 787 in relation to the 777, A34/30, A350XWB, etc?

Exterior dimensions are:
A340: 222x222"
B787: 226x235"
A350: TBD
B777: 244x244"

Because the CFRP fuselage of the B787 will allow much thinner sidewalls, the interior space of the B787 will be nearer to that of the B777 than the numbers above suggest.


User currently offlineRheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 26909 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 19):
Because the CFRP fuselage of the B787 will allow much thinner sidewalls

To me the fuselage frames of the 787 don't look much different from the 777 in web height, that doesn't seem to support your claim.

Your claim is valid for fuselages with sandwhich skins, like Hawker Horizon or Premier One, as compared to metal skin/stringer/frame shells.


User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 26909 times:

I was under the impression that the interior dimensions of the 787 were not going to be that far from the 777, and almost the same as the A350 XWB. I didn't realize the exterior was going to be so close to the A340. That seem strange that they would cut it so close after airbus got in such hot water on the oringal A350, but I do realize the 787 is a 767 replacement, and the A350/A340 are 777 competitors/ replacements. Those thinner walls must be quite a bit thinner!


Sic 'em bears
User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 26584 times:

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 20):
To me the fuselage frames of the 787 don't look much different from the 777 in web height, that doesn't seem to support your claim.

Whether they look different or not, they are. Compare numbers, rather than photographs, and you'll see the difference.

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 20):
Your claim is valid for fuselages with sandwhich skins, like Hawker Horizon or Premier One, as compared to metal skin/stringer/frame shells.

The B787 has integrated stringers.


User currently offlinePyroGX41487 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 26193 times:

The windows on the 787 are something like 10-20% larger than the average aircraft window. I'm not too sure on the percentage or actual dimensions, but I remember hearing that somewhere.

User currently offlineRheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 26132 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 22):
Whether they look different or not, they are. Compare numbers, rather than photographs, and you'll see the difference.

I am used to compare drawings or fumble the real thing

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 22):
The B787 has integrated stringers.

787 fuselage skin has co-bonded (not exactly integral) hat-section stringers similar in height to the L- or T-section stringers you have in metal airplanes. You may be surprised to find that there are some riveted L-section stringers in the 787 skin as well (e.g. for longitudinal floor attachment)


User currently offlineFirennice From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 25269 times:

We are working on tooling for drilling the composites where i work.....

I dont think anyone has completed the sections plane #1 yet. Companies in japan are close on wing sections.

All the pics are of test/show pieces. The first nose & barrells have had early production issues (out of manufacturing tolerances). So they are used for testing purposes.

Yes the windows are oversize, and i believe the door and 6-8inch width of door frame will be attached later. So you are seeing oversize holes in all accounts. The barrels are large...it just does not look that way.


25 SSTsomeday : I'm surprised they don't cover it for protection when they transport it.
26 Firennice : odds are they are transporting it to show off somewhere.....and then destructive testing. So why spend money for covering.
27 Post contains links Khobar : According to Boeing and others, they are integrated stringers: "To take full advantage of the properties of composite materials, the team has invente
28 FlyDreamliner : It's non-circular shape will allow a significant cargo advantage for its size as well. It's kind of hard to get a good sense of perspective in that p
29 Rheinbote : Beware that the editor of a company magazine usually is a technical layman. "Integrated" is a non-specific term. Technically, a stringer is either "d
30 Walter747 : wow i didn't think this early when do you think they are going to unveil it?
31 N31029 : Hi BA787. Once you get to know me you will find that my posts are never meant to hurt anyone. Just the opposite - I believe in building up people, an
32 Zvezda : Thank you for the kind words!
33 N31029 : You are entirely welcome; it is praise most deserved. All of us on A.net appreciate your knowledge base, and, more importantly your willingness to sh
34 Ikramerica : I don't know. I would assume that it will roll out 3-4 months before first flight, like most programs. That means somewhere in April or May. Who know
35 Post contains images Riyadhnurse : Love her already,even if it's a little prematue. As with all newborns,she'll grow into one big beautiful baby Boeing !!
36 AirTranTUS : That is why I am saving up to go to Farnborough instead. I am also better at English than French.
37 Hamster : I dont understand the manufacturing process. Don't you have to tool up and build a manufacturing line before they can build planes? How does Airbus bu
38 Ag92 : Doesn't UA operate SIN - NRT with a 777 Cheers
39 N31029 : Hi Ag92. I believe Jacobin777 was referring to AA 777s only. Blessings, N31029
40 Gh123 : I really don't like the look of this plane. Its small and personally my gut feeling is that it is just a glorified 767. Sure it has revolutionary feat
41 BA787 : Added you to my RY, partly out of disbelief, partly out of admiration
42 N31029 : Hi BA787. Thank you for the kind words. You are very generous. I am very glad to make your acquaintance as well. Despite only having joined A.net in
43 Post contains images RIHNOSAUR : great to hear this kind of attitude around here... with people having this kind of spirit it just improves the over all vibe of the forum welcome to
44 Kaneporta1 : Rheinbote is correct, the stringers are not part of the fuselage skin but probably co-cured with it in the autoclave. There are two reasons why it is
45 SABE : So, is the DFW-NRT service with 777 also being discontinued by AA?
46 Firennice : You do risk more problems in manufacturing before everything is set up (A380) but it is more important to the company to deliver ASAP and deal with d
47 Khobar : The 787 stringers are laid on the mandrel first. The fuselage skin is then formed over the stringers using the rolling ATL method. The entire assembl
48 Centrair : Some of the first Japan parts will be moved by ship but the first LCF delivery is in early to mid January (I just heard the first half of January). L
49 Hamster : This could be a logistical nightmare or not. Boeing has to rely on the perfections and faults of their company and compound that with perfections and
50 Centrair : Hamster, I don't think it is as much of a logistical nightmare as some other projects that have happend that are much larger. By the way glad to hear
51 SJCRRPAX : He can speak for himself, but I think he meant there will be no more 777 at SJC not NRT, and only (1) 767 left at SJC --- the Hawaiian. But, we still
52 Post contains images Gr8Circle : It seems like only yesterday that we were seeing such pics of the first A380 parts .....time really "Flies" (pun intended) in the aviation world....
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