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Is Southwest Finally Announcing A Crew Base LAS?  
User currently offlineSWABFA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

Is Southwest finally announcing a new crew base in LAS on monday?

(Very strong rumor!)

[Edited 2006-10-29 04:39:53]

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Quoting SWABFA (Thread starter):
Is Southwest finally announcing a new crew base in LAS on monday?

(Very strong rumor!)

What, and take rumor #37 off the list?  Wink


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4075 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

They don't already? Isn't LAS one of the biggest Southwest stations?

User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5694 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2):
They don't already? Isn't LAS one of the biggest Southwest stations?

LAS is indeed SWA biggest station that is NOT a crew base for SWA.

MDW, BWI, PHX and DAL are all big too and are crew bases.

LAS would certainly not be a surprise for me.

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

I just talked to a friend that works for WN. He just heard about it on his last trip.

No more LAS hotels for WN.

M


User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Just out of curiosity what does WN put their crews in at LAS?

Not having a crew base there must amount to quite a large bill at the end of the year.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9405 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 5):
Just out of curiosity what does WN put their crews in at LAS?

Circus Circus



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User currently offlineMjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Quoting SWABFA (Thread starter):
Is Southwest finally announcing a new crew base in LAS on monday?

(Very strong rumor!)

This has been a rumor for so very long! I DO hope it comes true though. I guess we'll see??

Cheers,

MJL  old 



Don't worry about things you can't change or control
User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
Circus Circus

Seriously? Oh God, I'll rent out my extra bedroom to WN staff rather than have them stay there.

One of the reasons I can explain for the lack of crew base would be the cost of living in LAS is high (almost LA). It started around 2003 and its been high since then. I do know a WN pilot who lives here though.


User currently offlineRsbj From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3189 times:

It's official, LAS starting Sept/Oct.

Rick



I fly really fast and take a lot of chances.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3141 times:

Quoting Rsbj (Reply 9):
It's official, LAS starting Sept/Oct.

Got an "offiical" source? A link?


User currently offlineSWABFA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 10):
Quoting Rsbj (Reply 9):
It's official, LAS starting Sept/Oct.

Nothing is OFFICIAL in SWA until is in the papers. We'll see!


User currently offlineSWABFA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2):
What, and take rumor #37 off the list?

How witty! (whatever....)


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3096 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
Circus Circus

Sticking close to their clientele?  duck 

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 8):
One of the reasons I can explain for the lack of crew base would be the cost of living in LAS is high (almost LA). It started around 2003 and its been high since then. I do know a WN pilot who lives here though.

It seems as though new neighborhoods are sprouting up like weeds in the entire valley. And not to mention the numerous condo and loft projects that have either been proposed or in various stages of construction. Even with some of the higher profile projects already canceled (Like Ivana Las Vegas, Las Ramblas, and the Hard Rock Condos), there are a number of developments being touted. I saw a segment on CNBC a few weeks back where several developers (with some amazing foresight I might add) are building new developments in Arizona not too far from Hoover Dam and for the price you would pay for a house in Las Vegas you can get twice the house. They are banking on the new bridge that bypasses Hoover Dam to make the area a new suburb for Las Vegas since the rerouting of US-93 will improve the traffic flow and make the drive to Las Vegas faster.


User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3076 times:

From what I have seen with WN, it wouldn't surprise me if they started a crew base there.

What exactly, besides crews being there (Starting/Ending their trip) is the advantage of having a crew base somewhere? What other functions does a base serve?



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User currently offlineSWABFA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3071 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 13):
Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
Circus Circus

Sticking close to their clientele?

LOL, LOL and LOL.... They also stay in the "Las Vegas Terrible's Hotel and Casino" (staying CLOSER to the clientele), but they could stay EVEN CLOSER by just camping in the streets... LOL

[Edited 2006-10-29 16:54:18]

User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 13):
It seems as though new neighborhoods are sprouting up like weeds in the entire valley. And not to mention the numerous condo and loft projects that have either been proposed or in various stages of construction. Even with some of the higher profile projects already canceled (Like Ivana Las Vegas, Las Ramblas, and the Hard Rock Condos), there are a number of developments being touted. I saw a segment on CNBC a few weeks back where several developers (with some amazing foresight I might add) are building new developments in Arizona not too far from Hoover Dam and for the price you would pay for a house in Las Vegas you can get twice the house. They are banking on the new bridge that bypasses Hoover Dam to make the area a new suburb for Las Vegas since the rerouting of US-93 will improve the traffic flow and make the drive to Las Vegas faster.

New neighborhoods are popping up all the time, but the issue is that the houses are still relatively expensive compared to pre-boom prices, and to other midsize cities.

The new hi-rise condo project are irrelavant due to their price ($500,000 for a 1200 sq ft unit) they are aimed at timeshare owners and those in the market for 3rd and 4th homes and want a place to call their own in LAS.

The Arizona project is contingent on the Dam bypass bridge, and that just got delayed 6+mo. due to the cranes falling over. Likewise, the Boulder City bypass has no funding and no start date, so all that traffic has to slow down in BC. The trip will get shorter, but I'm betting on people moving to Coyote Springs before they move out to AZ.


User currently offlineGman3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Even we at United have a crew base in LAS. However, it is always caught up in the rumor mill about closing it. After our Hubs, LAS is one of our busiest stations (SEA, MCO, PDX come to mind). It would be difficult to find hotel rooms in LAS to support an operation. I had heard many hotel do not want crew business. Congrats to SW employees who want to be home in LAS!

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13252 posts, RR: 100
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2987 times:
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I'm suprized WN didn't have a base at LAS... Any links making this official?

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 8):
One of the reasons I can explain for the lack of crew base would be the cost of living in LAS is high (almost LA).

For now. But since the primary job market serves tourism with a small 2nd home market... I'm expecting a correction.

Besides, Vegas is flipper central. Only homes in Sacramento, San Diego, or Florida will drop more than Vegas. The tides going out and to paraphrase Buffet, we're about to find out who's been swimming naked.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 770 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

One of the main reasons WN does not have a crew base at LAS is that during certain times of year, and any Friday & Sunday, it is almost impossible to nonrev/jumpseat to/from LAS. Pretty much anyone based there will need to live in the city.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 14):
From what I have seen with WN, it wouldn't surprise me if they started a crew base there.

What exactly, besides crews being there (Starting/Ending their trip) is the advantage of having a crew base somewhere? What other functions does a base serve?

Since trips start and end there, the airline doesn't have to pay for hotel rooms. WN must be paying a lot of money for all of those LAS rooms.

AAndrew


User currently offlineRsbj From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

It's posted all over the MDW pilot's lounge. Printed up by the chief's themselves I'm told.

Rick



I fly really fast and take a lot of chances.
User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 17):
After our Hubs, LAS is one of our busiest stations (SEA, MCO, PDX come to mind).

MCO? Are you kidding me?

Does UA even have 20 flights here?


I would put LGA on that list...


User currently offlineGman3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 22):

MCO? Are you kidding me?

Does UA even have 20 flights here?


I would put LGA on that list...

We have a base in NY. But yes LGA has more than 20 daily departures.

MCO-IAD (7x)
MCO-SFO (1x)
MCO-LAX (2x)
MCO-DEN (4x)
MCO-ORD (6x)

so that is 20 on the nose


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