Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6787 times:
Is this a trick question?
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6788 times:
Quoting MainMAN (Reply 2): geographically at the near-centre of the US.
What? Mem is in Tennessee. Which is closer to the east coast. It is no where near center. Its because its the world HQ of Fed Ex. DHL's base is IND iirc.
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
MainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2064 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6748 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5): What? Mem is in Tennessee. Which is closer to the east coast. It is no where near center.
Geographically, and in terms of population demographics, it is as near-central as dammit. To the NE there's Philadelphia, Washington, New York, to the N, Chicado and Detroit, to the SE Florida and Atlanta, to the SW Texas, and to the W, Arizona, Colorado and California.......
ChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1605 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6724 times:
Quoting MainMAN (Reply 2): Isn't Memphis the hub of DHL?
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6679 times:
Fedex started in Little Rock Arkansas in 1971 but moved to Memphis when it could not agree fees at Little Rock.
Memphis proved beneficial from the start being a quiet base from which to operate its growing fleet of Falcon 20 freighters to what was essentially an east coast series of destinations. Hub and spoke was crucial to the system from day one and, as the system expanded west and bigger aircraft came on stream, the situation of the base proved to be both logistically and economically a winner.
There was room to expand at the airport and the area needed the employment. A real win win situation.
JayinKitsap From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 765 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6668 times:
When FexEX selected Memphis as its primary sorting facility it was because:
-Sufficient sized airport with low flight costs.
-Lower than average wage costs for the on ground work force.
-US Mean Center of population was at the Missouri-Ill border just up from KY in 1980 and steadily moving west.
-US Median Center of population is in souther Indiana, steadily moving west also.
-Probably only in their data, but the shortest daily total flight distances probably landed in Western Tenn, as Alaska is lightly populated and way out on the perifery so single larger planes could serve it.
This site also was well suited for flights to Central and South America and would work for Asia using ANC as a secondary hub. Does anyone know where they have the Europe hub.
Jjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6652 times:
LIT was FX's original choice, if I remember correctly, but the airport authority down there wouldn't work with them whereas MEM had an empty hangar they let FX use. FX stayed with MEM since it is an ideal spot from which to access the east coast and west coast markets. If you weight all of the cities in the US by population, MEM is close to the "economic" center of the US. I believe Fred and his family had ties to the region, as well.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22077 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6653 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5): What? Mem is in Tennessee. Which is closer to the east coast. It is no where near center
If you look at where Fedex, UPS and DHL/Airborne have their hubs, they are all in a relative close proximity.
Their locations are is considered very much as central from a business and demographic point in the US. Being located for instance more to the physical center of the US in a place lets say such as Kansas City, would involve a huge amount of added non productive flying to cover the extra distance.
This is also why many of the countries largest trucking and warehousing operations are based in places such as Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee as these are also very much central for their business operations across the US.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Jjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6637 times:
Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 10): Does anyone know where they have the Europe hub.
RobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 891 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6622 times:
Also, I remember reading once that one factor that entered into the decision to build up at MEM is that the airport is closed on average about only 4 hours a year for snow removal.
3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6608 times:
Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 10): Does anyone know where they have the Europe hub.
CDG, plus fly a lot to Stansted. In the US besides MEM they have IND very big and growing (there was a thread last week about big expansion plans there), plus smaller OAK and AFW. Pac Rim besides ANC they have Subic Bay in the Philippines.
In MEM I've heard they bus workers in for the sort from all over the region to get enough.
Ejmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6568 times:
Quoting 3201 (Reply 15): CDG, plus fly a lot to Stansted. In the US besides MEM they have IND very big and growing (there was a thread last week about big expansion plans there), plus smaller OAK and AFW. Pac Rim besides ANC they have Subic Bay in the Philippines.
FX is currently building a new hub at GSO . It has been said that it will be about the same size as AFW
"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7029 posts, RR: 93 Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6493 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter): I was wondering why Memphis handles so much cargo traffic
GSO won't quite be the size of AFW, but it'll be 5th largest hub stateside. Not set to open up Ops there until late 2009.
Currently we launch 3 x MEM, 2 x IND, 1 x EWR, and 1 x MIA daily from GSO.
Yanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1392 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6425 times:
Quoting 3201 (Reply 15): they have Subic Bay in the Philippines.
I believe that hub is supposed to move to CAN within the next few years in order to accomodate the whalejets they're getting.
FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7029 posts, RR: 93 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6311 times:
Quoting Rdwelch (Reply 18): Were does EWR rank in the regional hub size for FDX?
OOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1395 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6195 times:
Wasnt FedEx trying to get Boise to upgrade their airport to have an ILS Cat III approach because they wanted to open up a hub there 2?
Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6079 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 6): I can see that it's Fedex's homebase...I didnt ask that questions though. What is the reason Fedex chose Memphis as a base?
Actually you did ask exactly that question.
You didn't ask "What is the reason Fedex chose Memphis as a base?"....which is what you really wanted to know.
Quoting FXramper (Reply 17): Currently we launch 3 x MEM, 2 x IND, 1 x EWR, and 1 x MIA daily from GSO
hmmm...I'm not sure you do. Maybe an A300 to IND and MEM, and an A310 to MEM.
Jimbo
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6011 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5): What? Mem is in Tennessee. Which is closer to the east coast. It is no where near center. Its because its the world HQ of Fed Ex. DHL's base is IND iirc.
Memphis sets on the eastern bank of the Mississippi River. The Mississippi River has always been the historical dividing point between the Eastern and Western United States. 24 of the United States are west of the Mississippi and 26 are east.
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5944 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5): HQ of Fed Ex. DHL's base is IND iirc.
FedEx is in IND, also.
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 12): If you look at where Fedex, UPS and DHL/Airborne have their hubs, they are all in a relative close proximity.
The area in the midwest including CVG, DTW, FWA, ILN, IND, TOL are less than 2 hrs, by air, to 2/3 of the US population.
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5): What? Mem is in Tennessee. Which is closer to the east coast. It is no where near center.
The center of the US is Nexus, KS. However, MEM is the geographic center based on demand.
25 FXramper: Maybe a feeder hub. LBB is the most recent. I checked our flights tonight. 7x daily. I'm actually surprised it's not more. Density at that ramp warra
26 UA772IAD: FX has of course IND and ANC, as others have mentioned as their main processing centers in the US. Is OAK really that big? For some reason, at my ori
27 B707Stu: I see they're rated 5th. I know everytime I fly from EWR I'm impressed with their operation there. Memphis was a very smart move. Between location, w
28 Nosedive: That's probably not true. IIRC 1/4 jobs in Memphis are either directly tied into the airport, or into distribution centers. Another reason why MEM wa
29 PanHAM: The correct answer is that MEM is the home town of Fred Smith, the founder of FX and the inventor of the overnight parcel express by air. It was actu
30 CosmicCruiser: no they're not, but they are bussed from the employee parking lot to the hub. Don't forget that MEM was a dist. center before FEDEX with the converge
31 Bond007: I'm not sure you're talking GSO here. There are 2 A300's and an A310 flight. No Fedex flights to EWR or MIA as far as I know. Some Caravan and F27 fe
32 Access-Air: Actually Memphis IS in the central part.....its on the Mississippi River and her ein the US we consider the Mississippi River to be the East and West
33 Higney85: Another helpful thing that I am sure was considered was/is the fact that memphis does not get much winter precip. Most winters we will have less than
34 Knope2001: For everyone focusing in on MEM being or not being in the "center" of things, remember: (a) The ideal position would probably be in a point most centr
35 RayChuang: I believe that MEM is being upgraded to handle the A380-800F when that becomes available, probably by 2010. I believe that OAK is being upgraded to su
36 STT757: FedEx's EWR operation is quite impressive, they have three large cargo buildings to themselves and two larger facilities located across the Turnpike
37 Fedexexpress: I can tell you right now that OAK is not even half the size as the Fedex IND operation. IND is the second largest hub for Fedex in the World, and they
38 PanHAM: SDF is the main hub but UPS's corporate HQ is in ATL. Once the "critical mass" is big enough, not all shipments need to pass through the central hub.
39 Bond007: Correct! IND has over twice as many flights as OAK ....I know that may not relate exactly to the size of the operation, but IND has over 50 flights/d
40 Ti717: Really WOW. Then do have the space for it. I recall when the open up their new building in 1996 or so.
41 PanHAM: Where a does ANC rank in that statistic - FX wise? The impact thre integrators have on the statistics of airports is significant. Worldwide ranking 1
42 Gsoflyer: There are actually more than this. I can vouch for the 3 the MEM, 2 to IND, 1 EWR and 1 to MIA. I just talked to a friend of mine with Mountain Air C
43 Bond007: Just out of interest, do you guys have flight numbers and types for these MIA and EWR flights? Thanks, Jimbo
44 DeltaJet757: It's the main hub for FedEx. -DeltaJet757
45 Bond007: Did you miss the other 43 posts ...just wondering Jimbo
46 BigOrange: Not quite it is in Wilmington, OH (ILM) IIRC it's at CDG
47 EXMEMWIDGET: Actually, workers are bussed from across the street from the employee parking lot.
48 Fedexexpress: LOL this is getting to be funny!!! Do they park there cars at the employee parking lot as well??????!!!!! WOW
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