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TAM Lands In LHR  
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

The first TAM flight 8084 GRU-LHR A330 landed savely in LHR Terminal Four yesterday 13:35hrs. TAM passengers will use KLM lounge in LHR T4.

The flight was fully booked and marks TAM's international expansion: double daily GRU-JFK, GIG-MIA, and GRU-MXP will follow.

Rgs,

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User currently offlineBritair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5094 times:

I was working yesterday at Heathrow and saw the TAM 332 and the Air new Zealand 777! Interesting day at LHR for new airlines/types! Both looked great!

User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

Does that mean Varig no longer have the right to fly into LHR?

User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

The TAM aircraft was parked on stand 402, and will be handled by KLM. Nice to see a new aircraft in the terminal.

I also saw the Air New Zealand 777, looked real nice in the early evening light!

BP777



Forever Flight
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5027 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
TAM passengers will use KLM lounge in LHR T4.

Hi Hardi! You just couldn't let this great occasion pass I guess  Cool Congratulations to all TAM-fans, good job. Nice to have KL handle her.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 4):
Nice to have KL handle her.

Will be interesting to see how KLM deal with the new addition. KLM's resources at LHR could be stretched. They now handle their own KLM flights, Kenyan (twice daily I'm not to sure, maybe someone can clarify), Air Malta, Sri Lankan (again sometimes twice a day) and now TAM. Be interesting to see how they cope. They only have a few desks for checking passengers in on Zone C in terminal 4, and use desks 1-6 down on Zone A for the Sri Lankan flights.

Looks like they are getting ready for when BA move out into Terminal 5 and can expand more of their ground operations.

BP777



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User currently offlineBA0284 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Did anyone get any photos of the TAM and the NZ777 at LHR?! Would be great to see them!!

Cheers
BA0284


User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 2):
Does that mean Varig no longer have the right to fly into LHR?

No, the bilateral agreement was extended to 14 weekly frequencies for each country. BA will add more 3 weekly frequencies. RG has plans to return soon - let's wait and see.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

Quoting Jog (Reply 7):
BA will add more 3 weekly frequencies.

Which will be operated LHR-GRU B777.

Rgs,


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8090 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4659 times:
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I thought AA would have handled TAM at T3 since they have a code share to the USA.

User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 9):
I thought AA would have handled TAM at T3 since they have a code share to the USA.

KL and AF are TAM's partners in Europe...


User currently offlineJJMNGR From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

The 3rd flight to CDG is schedulled to 05JAN.

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Not sure if it was reported here, but Transaero's daily Moscow flight has also recently moved to LHR, making 4 airlines on the route (Aeroflot, BA, Bmi and Transaero)

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4470 times:
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Quoting Jog (Reply 7):
No, the bilateral agreement was extended to 14 weekly frequencies for each country. BA will add more 3 weekly frequencies. RG has plans to return soon - let's wait and see.

The 3 BA weekly frequencies will be seasonal only. The other 7 are hold by Virgin Atlantic and as RG does not operates the route nowadays ANAC grant the right for such extra flights, but RG has plans to fly to London in 5 months.

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 11):
The 3rd flight to CDG is schedulled to 05JAN.

Good news! Seems that will use the M11 leased by Tam ! I get info that staff are under trainning as well as some A320 capitains. JJ is hiring some RG M11 co-pilots for this venture, and several new connections has been added to GIG or will be added during the next 60 days.

Brazil is really in need for more flights to Europe.

Richard, i'm still in Sao Paulo, let me know if you have any availiability of time this week.

Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 3964 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 13):
Brazil is really in need for more flights to Europe.

And to many other places. Recently it has become very hard to travel on short notice.

Congratulations to TAM, service to London Heathrow is a major accomplishment.

[Edited 2006-10-30 17:07:21]

User currently offlineTR763 From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

TAM seems to be decided to be the Brazilian flag carrier from now on. And I really hope they can achieve this.
The absence of Varig has created a mess and a low availability for all flights, domestic and international.
But I think that the slow growing of TAM is healthy for the airline, so that it can fly each time to more destinations.
How about MAD? - Are there any development regarding this route?

Rgs!
TR763

ps: Talking about TAM, for those interested, I wrote a trip report about a domestic flight I got with them on Saturday. Click HERE to read it! - Comments are very welcome!



Transbrasil
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4381 times:
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Quoting TR763 (Reply 15):
How about MAD? - Are there any development regarding this route?

I don't think so in the short term. They are working on MXP, a 3rd MIA and a 3rd CDG, as well as the 2nd JFK that will begin next month.

And shortly, a second SCL. They will change JJ3557 GIG-GRU leg, and create a new flight:

JJ8028 GIG 2150 GRU 2250 2335 SCL 0235 - A32A (12C 144Y)
JJ8027 SCL 0330 GRU 0815
(To GIG connects with JJ8085 and creates a JJ8085 leg using the JJ8027 aircraft "A32A" GRU 0900 GIG 1000)

Also, Tam Mercosur will change F100 on GIG-EZE-GIG (night flight) to an A320.

Quoting TR763 (Reply 15):
Talking about TAM, for those interested, I wrote a trip report about a domestic flight I got with them on Saturday. Click HERE to read it! - Comments are very welcome!

Very nice report, i made my comments! Congratulations!!!

Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineJJMNGR From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4186 times:

Felipe,

This week is a very short week and I have to travel on Wed. I am just seeing our msgs now and tomorrow I have to spend the day at GRU. Is it the last week of you arround?

Wanto to make an observation. TAm is working on the 4th to MIA as actually it operates 03 flts (donpt forget JJ8074/75).

Brgds

Rich


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4126 times:
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Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 17):
This week is a very short week and I have to travel on Wed. I am just seeing our msgs now and tomorrow I have to spend the day at GRU. Is it the last week of you arround?

No, i will stay in Sao Paulo also next week, from monday to wednesday.
We keep in contact during this week to meet next week.

And, i really forget the MAO-MIA flight! Thanks for the correction.

Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 5):
Will be interesting to see how KLM deal with the new addition. KLM's resources at LHR could be stretched.

This makes me wonder how TAM is doing themselves at the check-in in GRU nowadays? Back in July it was quite a mess in the evening but now they have the flights to MIA, CDG, JFK and LHR flights all leaving within 10 minutes. In total I just counted 15 flights tonight between 21:55 and 22:45. Did they had a chance to extend their space? Also, is there any increased offer of their shuttle bus service which was almost always overcrowded back then?

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 11):
The 3rd flight to CDG is schedulled to 05JAN.

Very good news, thanks Richard! Too bad it will not be in place for the Christmas traffic, but luckily in time for carnival... I guess we can expect to listen more on that on Wednesday during the presentation of the 3rd quarter results?

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 16):

I don't think it's reasonable anymore to talk about TAM being slow in its international expansion...  Wink

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
No, i will stay in Sao Paulo also next week, from monday to wednesday.

Too bad, I plan to be in SP the weekend after next week... It was nice to meet you the last time  Smile - maybe next time or sometime in NY or Europe (Do you still plan to fly to LHR?)...


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3890 times:
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Quoting Jog (Reply 19):
This makes me wonder how TAM is doing themselves at the check-in in GRU nowadays? Back in July it was quite a mess in the evening but now they have the flights to MIA, CDG, JFK and LHR flights all leaving within 10 minutes. In total I just counted 15 flights tonight between 21:55 and 22:45. Did they had a chance to extend their space? Also, is there any increased offer of their shuttle bus service which was almost always overcrowded back then?

No... they use the same space... only Gol get some extra space.

Quoting Jog (Reply 19):
Too bad, I plan to be in SP the weekend after next week... It was nice to meet you the last time - maybe next time or
sometime in NY or Europe (Do you still plan to fly to LHR?)...

Could be, i don't have an exact date yet. I will fly to LHR by december and probably will visit AMS during next summer!

Quoting Jog (Reply 19):
I don't think it's reasonable anymore to talk about TAM being slow in its international expansion...

Agree 100%, they added a new CNF-GIG-EZE, now 2nd SCL service, 2nd JFK service, 3rd CDG and very soon 4th MIA daily.

Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

Great job TAM.

Felipe, when will you be in NY? Maybe we could meet for a beer!


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3854 times:
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Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 21):
Felipe, when will you be in NY? Maybe we could meet for a beer!

For sure, i will live in NYC ! Will be a pleasure Tony.

Just a side note, first flight to LHR performed by PR-MVL, the last one received by Tam from Airbus.

Felipe



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 22):
For sure, i will live in NYC ! Will be a pleasure Tony.

Excellent.

Quick off topic question, have you heard anything on DL ATL-SSA?

Thanks!


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