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"Mango" Starts Flying In South Africa On Nov 15  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7630 times:
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South Africa's new kid on the block, Mango,  Yeah sure will start operations on November 15, 2006 with 2 leased 738's from SA. Initially the airline will fly up to 28 daily flights between JNB and CPT. Fares in the region of R200.00 will be available until the end of December.


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User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7571 times:

Thanks for the info. Have they got a website yet? A google search just comes up with things about fruit production!  silly  I get to CPT on 17th Nov so looking forward to seeing some 'Mangoes' Big grin


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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7504 times:
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Quoting Airchabum (Reply 1):
Have they got a website yet?

Apparently the website will be active from 00h00 (local time) - flymango.com.....  Wink


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SA7700



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User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

"Mango", huh? Well, I like mangos, mango margaritas, mango mojitos, mango salsa, mango chutney...it's a silly name, but I like it!

Website's nice and colourful - one objection, though...on the "About Us" page, they state: "Mango will be operating the ultra-safe Boeing B737-800 aircraft on all routes. It is, by the way, the preferred aircraft of all major Low Cost Airlines. " They might want to have a talk with, oh, say, JetBlue or Frontier about that assumption...  Silly


User currently offlineMrPIBB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7421 times:

Mango?

Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE. And the crowning jewel of stupid airline names .. BMIBABY.

Me like MANGO!


User currently offlineCsturdiv From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 1467 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7412 times:

Why do I picture those old Mango sketches from Saturday Night Live?


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User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7406 times:

What a wonderful, colorful and tasty name !!! Makes me feel flying them and take a bite at one of their aircraft right away !!!

Best regards



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7386 times:

You cannot touch the mango.




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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7352 times:

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4):
Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE. And the crowning jewel of stupid airline names .. BMIBABY.

The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..

There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7270 times:
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I just received some pictures of one of the aircraft in the paintshop from someone who works at SAA and all I can say is....wild!


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7180 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 9):
I just received some pictures of one of the aircraft in the paintshop from someone who works at SAA and all I can say is....wild!

Anyway you coud share those with us?  Wink

Any ideas on the reg's of these aircraft? Where have they come from?

-SA006  wave 



Proudly South African
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7154 times:
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Quoting SA006 (Reply 10):
Where have they come from?

They are on lease from SA. Unfortunately I don't have the reg's.


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7126 times:
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Quoting SA006 (Reply 10):
Anyway you coud share those with us?

Sorry Zak you know the rules about owning/posting pictures, I'm sure they will see the light of day soon!



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 2):
Quoting Airchabum (Reply 1):
Have they got a website yet?

Apparently the website will be active from 00h00 (local time) - flymango.com.....


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SA7700

Thanks SA7700  bigthumbsup  Hoping to fit a trip to DUR whilst I'm in SA so I'll try them out. Look forward to seeing the colour scheme...should be funky if the website is anything to go by!

Cheers



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User currently offlineMrPIBB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.

Good thing!


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6999 times:
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Prices are good, I checked the fare for a trip I am doing with SAA at the end of November, return airfare (JNB-CPT) all in is ZAR 698.00.

This compares with:
SAA ZAR 976.00
Kulula.com ZAR 1,098.00
1Time: ZAR 998.00
British Airways Comair: ZAR 1,512.00
Nationwide ZAR 1,215.00



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineVoyager From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6963 times:

This compares with:
SAA ZAR 976.00
Kulula.com ZAR 1,098.00


How does this work, Kulula.com is suppose to be the other low fare carrier in South Africa but many a time i also found that they are more expensive than SAA. The Question arises how long will Mango keep up these fares as the specials they have now is apparently only till December. With a difference of only R278.00 on their special compaired to SAA's normal fare, what will be so low cost if January arrives.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6952 times:

Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4):
Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE.



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..

HEY! What's wrong with Snowflake?!?!?!!! Well, I like it anyway..  Smile Btw SAS still uses the Snowflake name for their Economy Class on all their European flights..

Mango is very cute! Like it! Looking forward to some pics...

Good luck to them!

Kevin777



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6937 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6927 times:
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Quoting Voyager (Reply 16):
How does this work, Kulula.com is suppose to be the other low fare carrier in South Africa but many a time i also found that they are more expensive than SAA

I always fly SAA cos they are always the cheapest when I want to fly (and my wife works for them so I am supporting myself indirectly too!)

check this fare comparison from a couple of weeks ago:
SAA LCC.... Why Bother? (by Andz Oct 23 2006 in Civil Aviation)



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6893 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 19):
I always fly SAA cos they are always the cheapest when I want to fly (and my wife works for them so I am supporting myself indirectly too!)

It doesn't make much sense then, if SAA is already competing effectively and offering very cheap fares, what's the point of forming a low-cost division? It seems legacy carriers just never learn from eachother, remember Song by Delta? Or Air Canada's low cost arm? Legacy carriers should just revise their business model and cost structure to offer low cost flights while maintaining their legacy status and appeal to business travelers.

I guess SAA's real motive is to start a fruity little airline, at little cost, to drive out competition, only to dissolve Mango when this task has been done. Quite anti-competitive if you ask me.

However, I've read somewhere Mango is pushing for BASA renegotiation with some African countries including Kenya and Nigeria, probably to start low-cost flights to Lagos and Nairobi, therefore stimulating traffic. This wouldn't seem too likely in the foreseeable future given those countries' reluctance to implement the Yamousoukro agreement in full swing.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6877 times:

I guess in the longer term Mango can make a profit charging around 1000 Rand on a typical JNB-CPT trip, while they wouldn't if it were on SAA.
- Food for purchase will turn a profit, the meals of SAA are a cost.
- Cheaper crews (lower wage and 4 F/A's instead of 5 or 6 on a 738) for Mango
- Less other indirect costs like hotel stays when passengers miss the connection to a last flight of the day.
- A few extra seats to sell on a typical 738
Elements like this really make a difference.



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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6863 times:

They are not related to this lot are they !!  eyepopping 


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I'm flying into SA on the 17th, so I'll look out for them at JNB (anyone fancy an early morning to take some pics of the VS flight arriving  Wink )

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User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6801 times:

1st photos here!

User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1165 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Quoting BlooBirdie (Reply 23):
1st photos here!

Stelios will be so jaloux.... not even his planes are this orange...  Smile

Had expected something a bit more "tropical" than just orange and black/white/green though... but looks cool, still!

Kevin777



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25 Vasu : Oh my... I love it! Reminds me of Nandos chicken... mmm... nandos...
26 Post contains links BlooBirdie : Well things could turn a little messy! Gidon Novick, kulula.com joint ceo said: “We will remain price leaders in the market even if we create a bit
27 Andz : I'll believe that when kulula can actually quote me a price cheaper than SAA on a route and times and dates that I want. Haven't seen it once.
28 Post contains images Kevin777 : Intentional or just a bad choice of words..??? Anyways I wondered what he meant by this: "Gidon said R100m of taxpayers’ money would now be used to
29 Post contains images Owleye : Success Mango! Your livery look very colourfull and promising!! Finally some vibrant colours in the sky again. Very nice job...
30 Post contains images Leezyjet : I'v booked Kulula.com one way from PLZ-CPT at the end of NOV and it was way cheaper than SAA, R1287 for 3 of us one way. Also booked JNB-PLZ on 1time
31 Andz : Same pics I have... are you aware of the rules about posting pictures? Did you take these? SAA is state owned, therefore paid for by taxpayers, Mango
32 Post contains images Kevin777 : Ahaaaa.... goodmorning Kevin!.. Didn't know that.. so Mango is an LCC-spinoff from an old legacy??? Oh yeah, they've been succesful!! Zip, Song, Snow
33 Post contains images Leezyjet : Just thought, suprised nobody has photoshoped those pictures to add another O to the name !!!.
34 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : lol wow that's a rather strange scheme. Plenty of color though! Not really my idea of a good mango taste, but it sure is cool, and weird
35 Vasu : Mango got tango'd. filler
36 Teneriffe77 : One word on the color scheme: LOUD
37 SA7700 : The bird was visible in hanger 7E at JNB when we taxied out to 03L yesterday afternoon. Rgds SA7700
38 Viasa : What's the registration of this aircraft? Was it only in the paint-shop or was it also on maintenance?
39 Post contains links and images BlooBirdie : And now; in all its gory glory: View Large View MediumPhoto © Hannes Meyer
40 SA7700 : If their intention was to blind people with the shocking orange colour, they have succeeded... I can only imagine what it is going to be like during
41 Post contains images Leelaw : South Africa isn't even in the top-ten of mango production worldwide.
42 SA006 : Very interesting livery. Certainly stands out I must say...Anyone know when the next 738 will be "arriving" from SAA? -SA006
43 Andz : Wait until you see the other side, the livery is assymetrical.
44 Post contains links and images CPH-R : Pretty cool colours, though I wonder if they looked to the US for inspiration: View Large View MediumPhoto © Vito Cedrini
45 Post contains links and images OwlEye : To compare the left side with the right side of the fuselage this illustration shows very clearly the a-symetric Mango livery. Congratulations to Mang
46 MIAMIx707 : I like the left side a lot more with the bigger titles on the rear. Pretty cool design indeed as OwlEye said.
47 CXA330300 : Mango is more appropriate for a gay dating site rather than an airline's name, no?
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