SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 24 Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8700 times:
South Africa's new kid on the block, Mango, will start operations on November 15, 2006 with 2 leased 738's from SA. Initially the airline will fly up to 28 daily flights between JNB and CPT. Fares in the region of R200.00 will be available until the end of December.
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ExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8519 times:
"Mango", huh? Well, I like mangos, mango margaritas, mango mojitos, mango salsa, mango chutney...it's a silly name, but I like it!
Website's nice and colourful - one objection, though...on the "About Us" page, they state: "Mango will be operating the ultra-safe Boeing B737-800 aircraft on all routes. It is, by the way, the preferred aircraft of all major Low Cost Airlines. " They might want to have a talk with, oh, say, JetBlue or Frontier about that assumption...
MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8422 times:
Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4): Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE. And the crowning jewel of stupid airline names .. BMIBABY.
The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..
There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.
MrPIBB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8134 times:
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8): There is (or was), another airline called Mango Airlines in Africa that uses An-12s, one of which crashed recently. This is not a very well known opererator, and only flies cargo I think.
Voyager From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8033 times:
This compares with:
SAA ZAR 976.00
Kulula.com ZAR 1,098.00
How does this work, Kulula.com is suppose to be the other low fare carrier in South Africa but many a time i also found that they are more expensive than SAA. The Question arises how long will Mango keep up these fares as the specials they have now is apparently only till December. With a difference of only R278.00 on their special compaired to SAA's normal fare, what will be so low cost if January arrives.
Kevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8022 times:
Quoting MrPIBB (Reply 4): Kinda cute, actually. There were some others in the recent past that were downright stupid. Like SONG. And SNOWFLAKE.
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8): The name Mango leans more towards the cool side. Besides Mangos are colorful and tasty, yummy. I mean you're right, nothing as silly and dumb as Snowflake, Click (by Mexicana), BMIbaby etc. Somehow I got used to Song..
HEY! What's wrong with Snowflake?!?!?!!! Well, I like it anyway.. Btw SAS still uses the Snowflake name for their Economy Class on all their European flights..
Mango is very cute! Like it! Looking forward to some pics...
Good luck to them!
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AsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7963 times:
Quoting Andz (Reply 19): I always fly SAA cos they are always the cheapest when I want to fly (and my wife works for them so I am supporting myself indirectly too!)
It doesn't make much sense then, if SAA is already competing effectively and offering very cheap fares, what's the point of forming a low-cost division? It seems legacy carriers just never learn from eachother, remember Song by Delta? Or Air Canada's low cost arm? Legacy carriers should just revise their business model and cost structure to offer low cost flights while maintaining their legacy status and appeal to business travelers.
I guess SAA's real motive is to start a fruity little airline, at little cost, to drive out competition, only to dissolve Mango when this task has been done. Quite anti-competitive if you ask me.
However, I've read somewhere Mango is pushing for BASA renegotiation with some African countries including Kenya and Nigeria, probably to start low-cost flights to Lagos and Nairobi, therefore stimulating traffic. This wouldn't seem too likely in the foreseeable future given those countries' reluctance to implement the Yamousoukro agreement in full swing.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4540 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7947 times:
I guess in the longer term Mango can make a profit charging around 1000 Rand on a typical JNB-CPT trip, while they wouldn't if it were on SAA.
- Food for purchase will turn a profit, the meals of SAA are a cost.
- Cheaper crews (lower wage and 4 F/A's instead of 5 or 6 on a 738) for Mango
- Less other indirect costs like hotel stays when passengers miss the connection to a last flight of the day.
- A few extra seats to sell on a typical 738
Elements like this really make a difference.
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