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User currently offlineNorthwest 777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 224 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

Why don't any US airlines fly to Africa? I know TWA flies to Cairo and Continental is considering doing the same but I would love to see the big three (UA, AA, and DL) start something in Africa. It seems as though they could make money, am I right? I understand however that these airlines have code-shares with European airlines on their flights to Africa but it just seems to me that there could be an untapped gold mine over there. SAA is making a bundle off of there non-stops from South Africa to the US. Why couldn't a US airline do the same? I would love to hear comments anyone has on this topic.

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User currently offlineNorthwest 777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Anyone know why no airlines choose to fly to Africa?

User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

There are historical colonial era ties between some European countries and various countries in Africa which have continued in social, cultural and economic relations. There's no such relationship between the US and Africa. Most African countries are economic basket cases so lucrative business travelers are few and far between. Any American wishing to travel there can easily be accomodated on the flights to and from Europe and on African airlines flying to the US. Alliances can fill the little demand for flights albet through European hubs.

User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (15 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Another hinderance to US airlines flying direct to Africa is that many of the airlines lease equipment; and there are covenants in those agreements which prohibit operation of leased aircraft in countries that are on the State Department's "forbidden countries" list as well as countries where the saftey of the a/c cant be guaranteed such as countries where thee is civil war, coup de'tat etc. Unfortunately, some countries in Africa are on this list. I have a copy of a lease agreement if you want to see it.

User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1611 times:

Pan Am used to operate a thrice weekly service from New York to Nairobi with a stop in Frankfurt. I understand that the route did quite well because passengers were ferried from other US destinations into Frankfurt to make the connection. Unfortunately, when Pan Am folded, so did the route, with neither UA or DL wanting to continue it.

Also, I think that the aviation infrastructure in a lot of African countries simply isn't there. In some instances its getting worse. Qantas has discontinud service to Harare because of lack of fuel stocks on the ground there. BA now serves Harare with a stop in Nairobi for fuel because of the same reason.

User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1964 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (15 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Besides Pan Am going to Nairobi, they used to go to a few other African destinations I cannot remember. World Airways offered service from JFK to Senegal back in the early 90's but it was not profitable.

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