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BRU Officially 'Brussels Airport', New Routes  
User currently offlineUA777300ER From Belgium, joined Jun 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

Surprised nobody picked up on this. I found an article on the internet by a Belgian newspaper (De Standaard) that BRU is now officially called 'Brussels Airport', bringing an end to the confusion of different names (Brussels National, Zaventem, Brussels Airport, Brussels International Airport).

The CEO also said that BRU is looking for new airlines to serve Brussels and that they're especially focusing on new long haul routes. On the moment, BRU only has flights to 9 of the 30 most popular long distance destinations in the world (they will have 10 when the BRU-DTW route starts next year). The aim is to serve 20 of those destinations within the next five years.

The link to the article can be found
here
(sorry, only in Dutch and for subscribers).

Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?

Greetz
Tom

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User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

I suppose Beijing is in it as well?

And for future destinations... we really need more routes to S-E Asia, SIN & HKG should be added I think.



I love my Airport Job! :)
User currently offlineUA777300ER From Belgium, joined Jun 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5271 times:

Quoting Bwest (Reply 1):
I suppose Beijing is in it as well?

And for future destinations... we really need more routes to S-E Asia, SIN & HKG should be added I think.

Yes, I think you're right about PEK, but the frequency is pretty low. I really have my doubts about serving airports like SIN, HKG, NRT,... BRU is only about 300-400km away from major airports like CDG, AMS, FRA and LHR and getting there is pretty easy (1 hour from BRU to CDG by train). These airports have already great connections to those destinations and I don't really see a lot of demand left for pax to BRU, especially because BRU doesn't offer any great connections opportunities compared to other airports.


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

It's true that BRU is surrounded by those big airports. But does that mean this airport cannot be ambitious? BRU has a lot to offer as well. It's the gateway to the capital of Europe, which is also the town where tons of major international organisations and companies have their HQ.

You can say that CDG, LHR (and LGW), FRA and AMS are also very close to each other, yet all these airports flourish. Ofcourse, what all these companies have is something what BRU lacks: a strong homeplayer. SN / VEX is a dwarf compared to KLM, AF, BA and LH, with almost no longhaul destinations.



I love my Airport Job! :)
User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5141 times:

Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):
'Brussels Airport'

My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently onlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7535 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 4):
My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.

Robin Hood was not a popstar or a politician and - if you need a ship to be a pirate - not a pirate. But then Sheffield is not in Sherwood Forest!


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

With the new name also comes a new logo:


The white lines are supposed to be contrails intersecting over Brussels against a clear blue sky.

I like the logo, it's simple, and a major improvement to the old BIAC log



(BIAC = Brussels International Airport Company, the old name of the company in charge of Brussels airport)



I love my Airport Job! :)
User currently offlineLumumba From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Hi everybody.
Looks that the flight Mumbay Brussels Newark is going to start next summer.
Just read it in the tijd.be a local newspaper for business.
Regards


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4706 times:

Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):
Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?

Probably includes Bangkok, Bombay, Boston, Delhi, Dubai, Los Angeles, Miami, Singapore, Shanghai, and Tokyo.



a.
User currently offlineTomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4697 times:

Quoting Lumumba (Reply 7):
Looks that the flight Mumbay Brussels Newark is going to start next summer.

Indeed, it has been anounced today by prime minister Guy Verhofstadt.

It will be a daily flight !!! Nice to hear that suddenly Brussels is worth a daily flight to Mumbay ! Thank you Jet Airways to discover this  Smile Probably the extension of the flight to NYC is helping in the equation.

Does anybody know if it will be operated in code-share with SN?


User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):
Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?



Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):

PHL, via US Airways - starting next year (if gate access can be obtained at PHL).


User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

BOS

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Hussel, Hussel, Husel, Grind, Grind, Grind
User currently offlineTomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):
which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?

BRU has also flights to YYZ and AUH, even though I'm not sure if AUH ranks among the 30 most popular long distance destinations in the world. Besides that, BRU has of course all the SN flights to Africa: 13 destinations served by 19 flights a week, and Ethiopian is now also bringing it's share of Africa offer, which interesting for BRU if this could help them to be seen as "the" african gateway of Europe. IMO it's not yet the case since the absence of flights to austral Africa and the still weak comparison vs CDG to west Africa. But who knows, one day maybe...


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4541 times:

Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter):
BRU is now officially called 'Brussels Airport'

Thats nice and simple...too bad the walk from check-in to gate is so long that the planes actually take off from Rotterdam!  Smile

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 4):
My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.

Now, if John Lennon doesn't deserve an airport...I dont know who does!  Silly


User currently offlineFlyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 438 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Ok, here's the actual list of long haul destinations from BRU airport:

Abidjan 2x p/w SN A330
Abu Dhabi 3x p/w EY A330
Addis Ababa 3x p/w ET B767
Atlanta 7x p/w DL B767
Banjul 2x p/w SN A330
Beijing 4x p/w HU B767
Chicago 7x p/w AA B767
Chicago 7x p/w UA B767
Conakry 2 p/w SN A330
Dakar 6x p/w SN A330
Douala 3x p/w SN A330
Entebbe 3x p/w SN A330
Freetown 3x p/w SN A330
Kigali 2x p/w SN A330
Kinshasa 4x p/w SN A330
Luanda 1x p/w SN A330
Monrovia 3x p/w SN A330
Nairobi 5x p/w SN A330
New York JFK 7x p/w AA B767
New York JFK 7x p/w DL B767
Newark 7x p/w CO B767
Toronto 3x p/w EY A330
Washington 7x p/w UA B767
Yaoundé 1x p/w SN A330


Most African destinations are served in combination with another one.
Makes 24 long haul destinations out of BRU...

Regards, Flyingfool


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 14):
Makes 24 long haul destinations out of BRU...

Good job. Thanks for that!

One small remark, Hewra Bora also flies between BRU and FIH.

Next year US, NW and 9W will also add BRU to her route network.



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User currently offlineFlyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 438 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Thanks Manni,

I've listed the current L/H destinations...
I've made a further check and found out that Air Senegal (V7) is also flying with own equipment (B763) between BRU and DKR, can somebody confirm this?

Regards, Flyingfool


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 14):
Chicago 7x p/w UA B767

UA does not fly ORD-BRU, only AA does.



a.
User currently offlineUA777300ER From Belgium, joined Jun 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4344 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
UA does not fly ORD-BRU, only AA does.

True, there's only one daily flight to Chicago, operated by AA. The only United flight from Brussels is to Washington and continues to San Francisco.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9821 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

Quoting Bwest (Reply 3):
BRU has a lot to offer as well. It's the gateway to the capital of Europe

Every airport in Europe calls themselves the 'gateway to Europe'. You can access all European cities from all the current big airports such as AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR, MAD, MXP you name it. You are right in saying that BRU can be ambitious, I just highly doubt the success of BRU for playing an important role as a gateway as long as airport like AMS and CDG are there with their big alliances (KL/AF). Those airports are very hard to compete with in my opinion. The Netherlands also is known with foreign companies having their headquarters there. This all makes it difficult for BRU to compete as it is so close to AMS to give an example. Even so, everything is possible and you are right that BRU should not sit down to watch the competition grow. BRU should continue to further develop and promote themselves.

A388


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 19):
Every airport in Europe calls themselves the 'gateway to Europe'. You can access all European cities from all the current big airports such as AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR, MAD, MXP you name i

I think Bwest is specifically saying it's the Gateway to the CAPITAL of Europe, which is correct, as Brussels is the seat of the European Union, and thus the "Capital of Europe"


User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2036 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Good to see plans for growth at BRU. I first flew through BRU in December 2002, and the airport still felt kind of empty after the demise of Sabena. I used BRU again twice this year and things felt much busier. SNBA (or whatever they're calling themselves now  Smile ) have built up quite a nice African operation fro BRU... it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B. It was like having Sabena back!

Quoting SW733 (Reply 13):
Thats nice and simple...too bad the walk from check-in to gate is so long that the planes actually take off from Rotterdam! Smile

Hear, hear! Arriving on Concourse B is the worst. American, United, Delta and Continental always seem to get parked at the very end of the pier, and you have to walk for what feels like miles to get to immigration. There are moving sidewalks to help speed things up, but there's nothing to look at except cream-colored walls and signs reading "Brussels - The Heart of Europe."

Here's a question... on my last trip to BRU, I noticed that one of the old terminal concourses had been demolished, and that the old "satellite" concourse looked basically abandoned. Are there plans to re-use the old terminal in the future, or will it be torn down and replaced? I took a walk through the old check-in hall and it was basically empty... the check-in desks were still there but no airlines seemed to be using them.


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21):
it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B. It was like having Sabena back!

As much as I would like to see that, I regret to inform you they only have 3 A330's. Though they're looking for an extra longhaul plane (at least, that's what they've been saying for over a year now).

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21):
. Are there plans to re-use the old terminal in the future, or will it be torn down and replaced? I took a walk through the old check-in hall and it was basically empty... the check-in desks were still there but no airlines seemed to be using them.

The old check-in hall is sporadically used. I suppose as when traffic grows, the old hall will see more activity.

The same thing goes for the old statellite and terminal, which are currently closed. Seeing Brussels Airport apparently wants to attract more low cost carriers, it might be worth considering refurbishing the satellite a bit and making it into a low cost terminal.



I love my Airport Job! :)
User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21):
it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B

Very impressive, especially considering they've only got three  Wink

Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21):
American, United, Delta and Continental always seem to get parked at the very end of the pier,

Done for a specific reason, i.e. so they can easily 'seal off' the area. You can only enter the gate area where the US flights are if you are a passenger on one of those flights. The only way to do that is by putting those flights at the end of the pier. Any other solution would result in many people needing to move through the area to get to their gates.


User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

How comes there are so many flights to Africa from BRU? I know there is some connection as I read it somewhere, but cannot remember what it is...could someone help me out please?

25 Bwest : Well, because of the ex-colony, Congo, Sabena started flying almost ever since it was created, to Africa. And with the experience they got from flying
26 Post contains images A388 : Ow okay, I misread it than. Even so what difference will it make, BRU is the capital of Europe that's it. It doesn't add much more value to it. But I
27 EWRCabincrew : I always liked Zaventum, like DCA-National (can't get used to saying Reagan - talk about ironic) or IAH-Intercontinental (can't get used to saying Geo
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