UA777300ER From Belgium, joined Jun 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3818 times:
Surprised nobody picked up on this. I found an article on the internet by a Belgian newspaper (De Standaard) that BRU is now officially called 'Brussels Airport', bringing an end to the confusion of different names (Brussels National, Zaventem, Brussels Airport, Brussels International Airport).
The CEO also said that BRU is looking for new airlines to serve Brussels and that they're especially focusing on new long haul routes. On the moment, BRU only has flights to 9 of the 30 most popular long distance destinations in the world (they will have 10 when the BRU-DTW route starts next year). The aim is to serve 20 of those destinations within the next five years.
The link to the article can be found
here (sorry, only in Dutch and for subscribers).
Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?
UA777300ER From Belgium, joined Jun 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3805 times:
Quoting Bwest (Reply 1): I suppose Beijing is in it as well?
And for future destinations... we really need more routes to S-E Asia, SIN & HKG should be added I think.
Yes, I think you're right about PEK, but the frequency is pretty low. I really have my doubts about serving airports like SIN, HKG, NRT,... BRU is only about 300-400km away from major airports like CDG, AMS, FRA and LHR and getting there is pretty easy (1 hour from BRU to CDG by train). These airports have already great connections to those destinations and I don't really see a lot of demand left for pax to BRU, especially because BRU doesn't offer any great connections opportunities compared to other airports.
Bwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1314 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
It's true that BRU is surrounded by those big airports. But does that mean this airport cannot be ambitious? BRU has a lot to offer as well. It's the gateway to the capital of Europe, which is also the town where tons of major international organisations and companies have their HQ.
You can say that CDG, LHR (and LGW), FRA and AMS are also very close to each other, yet all these airports flourish. Ofcourse, what all these companies have is something what BRU lacks: a strong homeplayer. SN / VEX is a dwarf compared to KLM, AF, BA and LH, with almost no longhaul destinations.
My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.
Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6631 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3649 times:
Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 4): My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.
Robin Hood was not a popstar or a politician and - if you need a ship to be a pirate - not a pirate. But then Sheffield is not in Sherwood Forest!
Lumumba From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 369 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3246 times:
Hi everybody.
Looks that the flight Mumbay Brussels Newark is going to start next summer.
Just read it in the tijd.be a local newspaper for business.
Regards
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31119 posts, RR: 73 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3240 times:
Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter): Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?
Probably includes Bangkok, Bombay, Boston, Delhi, Dubai, Los Angeles, Miami, Singapore, Shanghai, and Tokyo.
Tomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3231 times:
Quoting Lumumba (Reply 7): Looks that the flight Mumbay Brussels Newark is going to start next summer.
Indeed, it has been anounced today by prime minister Guy Verhofstadt.
It will be a daily flight !!! Nice to hear that suddenly Brussels is worth a daily flight to Mumbay ! Thank you Jet Airways to discover this Probably the extension of the flight to NYC is helping in the equation.
Does anybody know if it will be operated in code-share with SN?
Vega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3173 times:
Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter): Any idea on what does 30 destinations are and which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3160 times:
Tomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3155 times:
Quoting UA777300ER (Thread starter): which ones BRU is serving now (I'm sure JFK, EWR, ORD, IAD and ATL are in there, not sure about the others though)?
BRU has also flights to YYZ and AUH, even though I'm not sure if AUH ranks among the 30 most popular long distance destinations in the world. Besides that, BRU has of course all the SN flights to Africa: 13 destinations served by 19 flights a week, and Ethiopian is now also bringing it's share of Africa offer, which interesting for BRU if this could help them to be seen as "the" african gateway of Europe. IMO it's not yet the case since the absence of flights to austral Africa and the still weak comparison vs CDG to west Africa. But who knows, one day maybe...
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3075 times:
Thats nice and simple...too bad the walk from check-in to gate is so long that the planes actually take off from Rotterdam!
Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 4): My congratulations to BRU for keeping it sensible and simple, and avoiding the trend in some countries of naming airports after popstars, pirates or politicians.
Now, if John Lennon doesn't deserve an airport...I dont know who does!
Flyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 415 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2973 times:
Ok, here's the actual list of long haul destinations from BRU airport:
Abidjan 2x p/w SN A330
Abu Dhabi 3x p/w EY A330
Addis Ababa 3x p/w ET B767
Atlanta 7x p/w DL B767
Banjul 2x p/w SN A330
Beijing 4x p/w HU B767
Chicago 7x p/w AA B767
Chicago 7x p/w UA B767
Conakry 2 p/w SN A330
Dakar 6x p/w SN A330
Douala 3x p/w SN A330
Entebbe 3x p/w SN A330
Freetown 3x p/w SN A330
Kigali 2x p/w SN A330
Kinshasa 4x p/w SN A330
Luanda 1x p/w SN A330
Monrovia 3x p/w SN A330
Nairobi 5x p/w SN A330
New York JFK 7x p/w AA B767
New York JFK 7x p/w DL B767
Newark 7x p/w CO B767
Toronto 3x p/w EY A330
Washington 7x p/w UA B767
Yaoundé 1x p/w SN A330
Most African destinations are served in combination with another one.
Makes 24 long haul destinations out of BRU...
Flyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 415 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
Thanks Manni,
I've listed the current L/H destinations...
I've made a further check and found out that Air Senegal (V7) is also flying with own equipment (B763) between BRU and DKR, can somebody confirm this?
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
Quoting Bwest (Reply 3): BRU has a lot to offer as well. It's the gateway to the capital of Europe
Every airport in Europe calls themselves the 'gateway to Europe'. You can access all European cities from all the current big airports such as AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR, MAD, MXP you name it. You are right in saying that BRU can be ambitious, I just highly doubt the success of BRU for playing an important role as a gateway as long as airport like AMS and CDG are there with their big alliances (KL/AF). Those airports are very hard to compete with in my opinion. The Netherlands also is known with foreign companies having their headquarters there. This all makes it difficult for BRU to compete as it is so close to AMS to give an example. Even so, everything is possible and you are right that BRU should not sit down to watch the competition grow. BRU should continue to further develop and promote themselves.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 19): Every airport in Europe calls themselves the 'gateway to Europe'. You can access all European cities from all the current big airports such as AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR, MAD, MXP you name i
I think Bwest is specifically saying it's the Gateway to the CAPITAL of Europe, which is correct, as Brussels is the seat of the European Union, and thus the "Capital of Europe"
Jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1859 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
Good to see plans for growth at BRU. I first flew through BRU in December 2002, and the airport still felt kind of empty after the demise of Sabena. I used BRU again twice this year and things felt much busier. SNBA (or whatever they're calling themselves now ) have built up quite a nice African operation fro BRU... it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B. It was like having Sabena back!
Quoting SW733 (Reply 13): Thats nice and simple...too bad the walk from check-in to gate is so long that the planes actually take off from Rotterdam! Smile
Hear, hear! Arriving on Concourse B is the worst. American, United, Delta and Continental always seem to get parked at the very end of the pier, and you have to walk for what feels like miles to get to immigration. There are moving sidewalks to help speed things up, but there's nothing to look at except cream-colored walls and signs reading "Brussels - The Heart of Europe."
Here's a question... on my last trip to BRU, I noticed that one of the old terminal concourses had been demolished, and that the old "satellite" concourse looked basically abandoned. Are there plans to re-use the old terminal in the future, or will it be torn down and replaced? I took a walk through the old check-in hall and it was basically empty... the check-in desks were still there but no airlines seemed to be using them.
Bwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1314 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21): it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B. It was like having Sabena back!
As much as I would like to see that, I regret to inform you they only have 3 A330's. Though they're looking for an extra longhaul plane (at least, that's what they've been saying for over a year now).
Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21): . Are there plans to re-use the old terminal in the future, or will it be torn down and replaced? I took a walk through the old check-in hall and it was basically empty... the check-in desks were still there but no airlines seemed to be using them.
The old check-in hall is sporadically used. I suppose as when traffic grows, the old hall will see more activity.
The same thing goes for the old statellite and terminal, which are currently closed. Seeing Brussels Airport apparently wants to attract more low cost carriers, it might be worth considering refurbishing the satellite a bit and making it into a low cost terminal.
Scorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 4934 posts, RR: 47 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21): it was impressive to see four or five of their A330s lined up on Concourse B
Very impressive, especially considering they've only got three
Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 21): American, United, Delta and Continental always seem to get parked at the very end of the pier,
Done for a specific reason, i.e. so they can easily 'seal off' the area. You can only enter the gate area where the US flights are if you are a passenger on one of those flights. The only way to do that is by putting those flights at the end of the pier. Any other solution would result in many people needing to move through the area to get to their gates.
8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
How comes there are so many flights to Africa from BRU? I know there is some connection as I read it somewhere, but cannot remember what it is...could someone help me out please?
25 Bwest: Well, because of the ex-colony, Congo, Sabena started flying almost ever since it was created, to Africa. And with the experience they got from flying
26 A388: Ow okay, I misread it than. Even so what difference will it make, BRU is the capital of Europe that's it. It doesn't add much more value to it. But I
27 EWRCabincrew: I always liked Zaventum, like DCA-National (can't get used to saying Reagan - talk about ironic) or IAH-Intercontinental (can't get used to saying Geo
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