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NW To FCO In 2007?  
User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 760 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

Just wondering given the popularity of US-Italy routes this past summer, would NW reopen DTW-FCO next summer??

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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Are there enough A330/DC10 to restart the route?
I remember NW flying to FCO until 2005


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4249 times:
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That is a good question - I know most of the CO flights to FCO and MXP were jammed packed most of the summer, so I would imagine there is money to be made if they started the seasonal route again.


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4223 times:

Can the 757s with winglets make it to FCO from DTW? If they could they could keep it open year round. Then if it does well, maybe that would be a route for the 787s when they come on board.

User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 3):
Can the 757s with winglets make it to FCO from DTW?

No way. It just doesn't have the legs. Further, I understand that FCO is a leisure-oriented (read: low yield) market from the United States, meaning that the more Y seats, the better. Hence, the A330-300 (which did indeed fly the route before it was cut) would be the most suitable aircraft in NWA's current fleet. I don't see them adding the route back for Summer 2007, however they have recently announced new European service, so there may be hope yet.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6161 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

NASCAR: Yes, once the inflight refueling by airliners is approved and the 757 is equipped as needed. J/K kidding buddy. The 757 wouldn't get close to Italy.

I personlly flew DTW-FCO in WBC a few years ago and just loved it. I'd like to see them bring it back, but I'd be surprised if it comes back soon.

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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

How many A332/A333 do they have now? 757s surely aren't able to fly to Italy from Detroit.

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 2):
I know most of the CO flights to FCO and MXP were jammed packed most of the summer.

Yes, it's not a surprise. All the other american carriers serve Italy with success.

[Edited 2006-10-31 15:41:41]

User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1581 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 6):
How many A332/A333 do they have now?

Currently stands as of 10/31 at 12 A330-300 and 10 A330-200



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

Quoting DTW757 (Reply 7):
Currently stands as of 10/31 at 12 A330-300 and 10 A330-200

Actually its 11 and 11.



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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1581 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
Actually its 11 and 11.

No that isn't correct. It is 12 -300's and 10 -200's N801NW-N812NW for the 300's and N851NW-N860NW are currently in the fleet. N860NW (series 200) was deliverred in late September and N812NW (series 300) was delivered last week.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.asp
http://www.airbus.com/odxml/orders_and_deliveries.xls



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User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 760 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/USA/...orthwest_Airlines_europe_india.gif
Look at this updated NW European Network Map (with new services to BRU and DUS announced 2 weeks ago). There is FCO too!


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Didn't Alitalia fly DTW-FCO? If not, then I think Alitalia may open this route instead of NW and they can codeshare.

User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 11):
Didn't Alitalia fly DTW-FCO? If not, then I think Alitalia may open this route instead of NW and they can codeshare

Yeah briefly in the late 1980s as a weekend charter, and also as cargo bringing in Cadillac Alantes.

They had a codeshare around 2000 when they were briefly a part of the "Wings Alliance", but it was always NW out of DTW.

Probably if they wanted to open up a DTW-FCO route year round, it would need to be done with Alitalia since it would only fill a 767-300 until Northwest gets the 787s. I know the DC-10s were filled in the summer, but I doubt they would do well in the winter.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3578 times:
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Quoting Nycfly75 (Reply 10):
Look at this updated NW European Network Map (with new services to BRU and DUS announced 2 weeks ago). There is FCO too!

As well as the BDL-AMS

Quoting Nycfly75 (Thread starter):
Just wondering given the popularity of US-Italy routes this past summer, would NW reopen DTW-FCO next summer??

We will most likely restart the DTW-FCO next summer. It was cancelled for this summer because of a shortage of A330's with the 4th AMS. But the A330 pilots i've flown with(including the ones on the BOM-AMS leg earlier today) do believe that FCO will be back next summer if the current A330 delivery schedule stays on track. We'll see.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 1):
Are there enough A330/DC10 to restart the route?

They have just retired the DC10 from transatlantic service out of MSP I believe... There is a thread about that on here...

"NW bids adieu to DC10"



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